Termyn8or
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Voting doesn't do it anymore. We are but sheep going to the polls to vote upon whether we will starve to death or freeze to death. Those are the only options provided, which is for you Sir ?
People, people more educated on the law than I are already working to find ways to change this. Lawful ways. The means do exist, but alot of specific information is needed to make it stick, and of course same is not so forthcoming. It can and does work if done right, as I do remember some governor in CA that got ousted for his intention to coddle illegal immigrants. Anyone remember his name ? No ? GOOD !
Now we are talking about a governor, elected by the whole state, a senator only needs half a state (in theory) and should be easier to impeach or oust in the same manner. By the same theory one tenth of a state should be easily able to instigate a recall election for a congressman.
They accomplished this quite easily in CA because the problem ws right in everyone's face. So that statefull of racists like me, who value citizenship in this country got rid of some totally idiotic leader (supposedly) whom they had previously elected. Read me politicians, if it can happen to him, it can happen to YOU.
Lazy or not, no one Man can gather enough information to make these things really stick. Someone has to watch everything they do. Unlike this forum where our heads are directed to this guy and then that guy, whole political parties in fact, we need to go after them individually. Remember, divide and conquer. For that we need some solidarity. Perhaps the recall in CA was started by one person, but public support gained critical mass in notime. The reason again, was that the problem was right in their face.
A small coalition could watch every move, every vote, every contribution (read bribe) taken by one of these supposed "representatives". Using all the tools of the trade, just like the PTB make a good case that this one's a rat, and disseminate that information. For a congressman, that would entail enlightening less than one million people. For a senator a bit more. For a governor a bit more.
Knowledge is power, and knowledge shared is power lost, unless........ Well you, or us, like anyone else only share the knowledge that is needed to garner the support. The opponenets take care of their side. We need to objective like we need a hole in the head. They are not, therefore it must not be one of the rules of the game right ? You take every advantage you can, just like they do. Except for lying. I won't engage in that, but everything else is fair game. Run the commercials with that piano playing in the background, footage of people who got fucked over by the dirty deeds of the politicians. The crying, the expressive (if none other) outrage. The works.
While I still advocate something much more drastic, like a march on Washington, armed and so forth, it wouldn't work. You need enough people on your side with alot of balls. There simply aren't enough with that kind of mettle anymore. But something that operates within the law, especially if effective, would be alot more palatable to the general public.
Popular support is of the utmost importance. You can't even convince people that they can fight a fucking traffic ticket anymore, and these people are intelligent, just ignorant of parts of the law. Even if you think we are stuck with a duly elected President, they can still be recalled. We are indeed stuck, but by our own inaction, not the law.
Perhaps a Citizens' initiative. Start one as soon as the election is over. A team would review every move they make and present a scorecard, or report card as it were on each and every one of those who betray us every day. Eventually the treason adds up to the point where enough signatures can be gleaned to force a recall. On EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. Every day.
People are afraid of guns now, and even marching in the streets. This method requires neither. This would make it acceptable to alot more people, which is elemental to such a project's success. But if you really want change that is the best way to do it at the present time.
If such a thing were to happen, I bet my brain on the fact that they will retaliate, by passing new legislation hindering the recall process. Argue against that. The incumbents want to stay incumbent. After that, I think it possible that guns and marching in the streets will be less of a challenge for many. And many is the keyword. Without many, it simply doesn't work.
In a way it is sort of reverse voting. I see it as the only way at this time. But overall, succeed or fail, it will raise the average Joe Sixpack's awareness of what is going on in the world.
Any other ideas ? I am all ears.
T
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