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Rhodes85 -> RE: Naughty Mistress!! (1/26/2010 1:54:44 PM)
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Yeah, okay, perhaps the idea of a man not hitting a woman may seem misogynistic to some, but that isn't the way I was raised nor the world I want to live in. Were I there, the man would have been hit so hard he'd never hit another woman again as long as he lived. I don't give a damn what she did.
Look, I don't like the idea of hitting a woman either, but he DID act in self defense. She created the situation and he did attempt to avoid confrontation the first time - to which she responded by hitting him. What if the situation were different? What if an alley somewhere and this woman walked up and pulled a knife? Would it be ok to hit her then in self defense or would you think it ok to stand there and get stabbed? There has to be a point at which self defense comes into play. Saying 'good men don't hit women, period' is blatantly sexist. Generally I would agree but we aren't talking about an abusive relationship here, we are talking about self defense and a situation the woman herself created. Incidently chivalry has as much to do with women as it does men.
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In the first place, equality and equal rights are two distinctly different things. Nobody fought for equality, many people fought for equal rights.
Not as distinct as you seem to think. Every woman has the right to defend herself if I were to hit her, just as I have the right to defend myself if a woman hit me. You want equal rights? apply those rights equally then.
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now it would be 2 on 1. And those aren't fair odds no matter what's between your legs.
Technically in a 2 on 1 situation the single person has the tactical advantage unless both opponents are specifically trained to fight in co-operation with eachother. Though I see what you're saying.
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Me: Yes, I read it correctly. I don't recall saying he hit her without warning. What I said was that she foolishly thought he wanted to play (presumably because he was a middle-aged guy wearing a schoolboy outfit in a sex club). He did not defend himself, he escalated the violence from a slap to an out and out punch in a situation where neither was necessary.
Then you did read it wrong. He did not 'escalate' the violence. She got pissed off and slapped him hard enough to knock him down - after being told he was NOT interested in playing, and he came up swinging in a natural defensive response. Look, woman or not, if you hit someone without provocation you can expect a response, and chances are you won't like it.
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ME: If you want to congratulate a guy who punches a woman in the face, so be it. You'd be doing it with him laying on the ground nursing a very badly bruised face. If you joined the fight and started punching me, I'd stand there and laugh at you. I have done it before. I recall being about sixteen when a girl got mad at me for something I said (she was justified in getting mad, I assure you) and decided to start punching me (not justified enough to punch me). I grabbed her arm and straightened her wrist, then explained that if she were going to throw a punch she needed to avoid breaking her wrist. Then I stepped back and let her hit me again. This time I laughed and explained she needed to get a better stance because a good breeze would blow her away if she kept her legs so close together. In the end she started laughing right along with me. I apologized for my statement and we have been friends ever since (that was thirty years ago, god I am getting old). Another, more recent experience involved a bunch of teenage girls trying to beat up my neighbors daughter; it involved her flirting with one of the other girl's boyfriend. I got them together and explained that times may have changed but that is no reason for young ladies to act upon the basest instincts of young men. We had a pretty good talk over it. So the answer is yeah, I'd let her hit me. If it hurt enough I might pin her down, but I wouldn't hit her back. At least I hope to god that I never get so cowardly that I would haul off and punch a woman. I do recall having a fight with my ex-wife when she said something pretty mean and I picked her up and dropped her on the bed. I felt awful about it and still consider it to be one of the worst things I have ever done in my life (and there is a list of things I have done).
He wasn't congratulating the guy for hitting her, he was stating it was self defense.You come off as WAY too sure of yourself in that statement. If for example I had joined that fight and had hit you (and I would NOT do so unless you hit me first) you would not be laughing, or pinning me and I would not be on the floor. You would be knocked unconscious the second you took a swing at me. Grabbing someones arm in the way you described is not a smart move, its also very easy to get out of if you know what you are doing. I also found your frequent reference to 'punching' interesting. Punching someone is exactly what you want to avoid in a fight, you will do more damage to yourself than you will to the person you hit. My point is simple: overconfidence such as you are displaying in that statement is a bad situation waiting to happen. I would be careful about what situations you get yourself involved in if I were you.
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ME: I don't recall ever suggesting that its ok for a woman to hit a man. It is shameful behavior on her part and she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Most men aren't exactly my size and I am sure there are cases where a large woman could do significant damage to a small man.
The size and strength of your opponent means nothing if you know what you are doing. A competent opponent will use both of those factors against you to his (or her) advantage. Being smaller than your opponenet is a considerable advantage in both speed and agility. Both of which count for more than size and strength.
That being said the man in question acted in a manner that was reasonable and to be expected. While I don't like the idea of hitting a woman, if shes going to go off at someone the way she did she should expect such a reaction. She can't go around hitting people just because shes calls herself a Domme.
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