truckinslave -> RE: Obama at the House GOP retreat (1/29/2010 7:53:42 PM)
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave "The health care package they've spent a year attacking is virtually the same as the one they proposed to counter Clinton's". Are you serious? Did they also, in this alternate reality, propose to gut medicare to pay for it? "The current counterproposals consist not of health care reform, but of deregulation of the health care industry.' Can you think of a way to continue the availability of goods and services (in this or any other industry) without deregulation, increased competition, or both (I have my own ideas about increasing competition, but few would have the guts for them)? "simple reality here is Republicans have no intention of passing health care reform, not this bill, not their bill, not any bill. They never have, and apparently never will, beyond talking about it to string it along with never-ending delay tactics." Thank God. And the Dems who were such useful idiots. Alternate reality? Just history. Dole laid out a expansion of private insurance as his proposal--just as this one did. In fact, that's one of its problems---going single payer is a much better plan. But, no, the Republicans wouldn't even go with their own original concept----which, by the way, where's that one gone for the past 18 years??? Every state regulates insurance, and for good reason. While you're studying history, go back and learn what happened before regulation. I'm glad you at least admit Republicans will always oppose health care reform. But the current system is unsustainable. Costs continue to rise far faster than inflation. The uninsured continue to take crises to the emergency room instead of much cheaper preventative care. Employees and employers continue to see the cost of their health insurance rise. Insurers continue to drop coverage. This is only going to get worse and worse until private health care fails. So, something you characterize as "an expansion of private insurance" is "virtually identical" to the Senate bill? I'm sure it included the Cornhusker Kickback and Lousyanna Purchase? The Medicare disembowelment? Was 2500 pages long? Classified as "children" those under 27? Etc etc etc. No? Not "virtually identical" There are two ways, and only two ways, to maintain/expand availability of healthcare while constraining/reducing costs. Competition. Deregulation. They are the only things that have ever worked, or ever will. There is, for only one example, no sensible reason why a person living in a free country cannot buy insurance across state lines. No. Sensible. Reason. I agree with you that things may get worse (not that they are at all bad now) until we get less, not more, government involvement. Government is the problem, not the solution.
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