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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


Willbur meet Truck.....you met your match
I look forward to much more hilarity and ridiculousness ...thankyou

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

What a great bit of video.  I haven't finished all 86 minutes yet, but I am wondering if maybe we need a soundtrack.  Something with a nice bluesy guitar feel, maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo

edit to add a live version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU&feature=related

It's sad that seeing conversations like this is so rare in our system.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Look, here's the thing.

It's clear from this and other posts that you aren't aware of the past history here. It makes discussion pointless, as you're taking blind shots at things you obvious don't know anything about. Start there.

We have a long history of regulation. We've also had disastrous deregulation. You obviously aren't up to speed on that history either. You've repeating blind abstractions.

Perhaps you've heard of states' rights? There is every sensible reason why citizens in one state can choose differently than citizens in another. We call it the U.S. Constitution. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Slogans, kid, aren't gonna do the job. Stop repeating them, and start reading your history.

Yeah, youll cry states rights until its something you like and then youll plead the ICC.

FYI, health insurance restrictions on interstate sales has nothing to do with states rights. Its purpose was to allow smaller companies the ability to grow and compete with established giants like BC/BS. It was fine in the early days of the business, but all it does now is restrict needed competition. So read your own damn history.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

What history is it you assume I don't know?
What deregulation is it that you think was so disastrous?
States rights don't exist anymore. Haven't for decades.
There is no sensible reason why the legislature of Florida would (or can, today) tell a resident of Tallahassee he cannot buy a health insurance policy available in Columbus, Ga.
Kid? Thanks.

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Denzel...excellent analogy. Obama is an actor who can slip in and out of character without knowing a fucking thing about what hes portraying.

Pwned! We elected an actor as President!

HAH...what a fuckin joke that would be, an actor in the White House.

HAH!

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Go back and read the exchanges. You continually make blanket statements at odds with established reality and lessons learned. You seem unaware of airline deregulation, where costs soared and service sank, of telecommunications deregulation, where costs soared and service sank (though fiber optics did improve line quality), of banking deregulation which overturned 50 years of no big financial crises to 30 years of massive bank failures and scandals from the Savings & Loan debacle to the recent mess over mortgages, derivatives and another massive bailout.

And we just bailed out AIG, a massive insurance company.

For the rest, see the above post.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Look, here's the thing.

It's clear from this and other posts that you aren't aware of the past history here. It makes discussion pointless, as you're taking blind shots at things you obvious don't know anything about. Start there.

We have a long history of regulation. We've also had disastrous deregulation. You obviously aren't up to speed on that history either. You've repeating blind abstractions.

Perhaps you've heard of states' rights? There is every sensible reason why citizens in one state can choose differently than citizens in another. We call it the U.S. Constitution. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Slogans, kid, aren't gonna do the job. Stop repeating them, and start reading your history.

Yeah, youll cry states rights until its something you like and then youll plead the ICC.

FYI, health insurance restrictions on interstate sales has nothing to do with states rights. Its purpose was to allow smaller companies the ability to grow and compete with established giants like BC/BS. It was fine in the early days of the business, but all it does now is restrict needed competition. So read your own damn history.

Nope. I'm pointing out an inconsistency. It's all about states' rights until it's not convenient, from segregation to regulation.

My state has strict insurance regulations. I like it. I'm willing to pay more for it. In fact, in choosing among the plans offered to me through my employment, I didn't choose the cheapest one either--I chose the one that best suits my needs (in this case, it offered more choice or providers).

So what happens when cheap insurance from a poorer, less regulated state strips away gullible customers who don't recognize what they're no longer getting? And when angry customers go to the state AG, what happens? It's just not as simple as open the doors and let the prices drop, and you know enough business to know this.

So what, we'll create another Delaware? It's a veiled attempt to deregulate.

What happened to the plan they proposed in the early 90s? Where's that plan? Why haven't they resurrected it?

It's an end run.

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But you and Rex make me Hawt!!!

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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But you and Rex make me Hawt!!!

We get that a lot.

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Honestly, without a trace of snark, the conservative movement of the past decade seems like a radicalized version of Reaganism, a movement that practically worships the notion of Free Markets, resistant and openly hostile to any suggestion otherwise. They do resembe the late stage Marxists, who saw any disagreement with doctrine as treason.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Which flight are you claiming was only possible free of regulations? Voyager which began planning in 1980, well before deregulation began, or Global Flyer? And precisely what onerous regulations had to be done away with before such experimental aircraft could be flown?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Which flight are you claiming was only possible free of regulations? Voyager which began planning in 1980, well before deregulation began, or Global Flyer? And precisely what onerous regulations had to be done away with before such experimental aircraft could be flown?

It's pdf, I'm afraid, you'll just have to look for the quote in the second column, but it quotes Burt Rutan (the designer and builder of Voyager as saying:

I want to thank Ronald Reagan for providing and maintaining this environment that was devoid of governtment regulations...
 
I only filled out two pieces of paper for the US government