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LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 2:07:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
LA made a good comment on her "masculinity" thread, namely that for CDs there are other venues more suited for them to find success than here. I think she's right about that.


Other threads, not venues.

As for you and your derisive treatment of others, I'd gladly show you the door!

Pay no mind to cloudboy, everytime he misinterprets someone's words, he cums a little. That's his kink.

- LA




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 2:18:09 PM)

That second cat image ... reminds me of the time my Morris (type cat) ... jumped off the porch ... then tried to climb an entire story to get back up!

i went down stairs .. picked him up ... he jumped out of my arms ... and he did it twice more ...

The neighbors looked on in amazement!

he just could not move laterally ... two feet ... when he was a story up on the side of the building!

he has never jumped again ... <smiles>

true story ...




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 2:35:12 PM)

Are you trying to tell us that some cats are obstinate and will keep jumping dangerously off ledges until they learn their lesson? ;-)

- LA




Andalusite -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 3:19:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
My ex girlfriend was a drag king. I've said it often that we were in our 20s and she looked like a cute gay boy. I know a lot of girls outside BDSM that do drag king and butch up.

I've dressed in drag as a goth boy once, and I agree that some other women like going in drag occasionally, but I've never heard of any woman wanting to be "forced" or humiliated about it. That was the aspect that I was trying to say was uncommon.

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I'm going to totally disagree with this statement. The Dommes that I know are totally open to listening to men expressing their fantasies. ...
What they are not open to is having me write to them saying this is my fantasy and I beg you to indulge it. Most level headed Dominant men I know would not cater to a needy submissive girl neither.

Oh, absolutely, within the context of a relationship *most* women want to hear about fantasies and preferences. I had intended to only refer to within the context of the forums. When female submissives post stuff like "Who likes fantasy rape/face slapping/golden showers/etc." the responses are generally fairly positive, and even the ones who say "Not me" don't generally criticise her for being wanky.

There are a lot more self-identified dominant men than women who *seem* to be open to a LTR with a woman who is submissive in the bedroom only, or who identifies as a bottom, than Dommes who are open to that kind of relationship with a man, as far as I can tell from profiles and forum posts. It's quite possible that I'm mistaken or interpreting things differently from how they were intended, though. Back when I was looking, I was very up-front that while I was open to a D/s dynamic developing if I reacted to someone that way (on either side of the kneel), that I have had some very happy relationships as a top, a bottom, or a top/bottom switch without a D/s dynamic. Most of the guys I talked with or met were fine with that, but perhaps they were convinced that of course I would be dominant or submissive with *them*. I have the impression that if I had been looking for a Domme, I'd have been far more likely to be dismissed from consideration automatically unless I could promise a D/s dynamic (I'm bisexual, but generally more interested in men than women, so while I wasn't actively seeking a girlfriend/Domme, I would have been open to it if we clicked that way).




cloudboy -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 6:10:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
LA made a good comment on her "masculinity" thread, namely that for CDs there are other venues more suited for them to find success than here. I think she's right about that.


Other threads, not venues.

As for you and your derisive treatment of others, I'd gladly show you the door!

Pay no mind to cloudboy, everytime he misinterprets someone's words, he cums a little. That's his kink.

- LA



I went looking for the post in question, and I was unable to find it. If I got your position wrong here, I apologize. As I remembered it, you said something about knowing a guy into age regression who did better finding a partner on forum more in line with that interest. Ergo, kinksters might get better results looking in other areas (forums I thought) for the off road kink interests.

But, not being able to find the actual post, I will retract my comment.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 6:14:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
LA made a good comment on her "masculinity" thread, namely that for CDs there are other venues more suited for them to find success than here. I think she's right about that.


Other threads, not venues.

As for you and your derisive treatment of others, I'd gladly show you the door!

Pay no mind to cloudboy, everytime he misinterprets someone's words, he cums a little. That's his kink.

- LA



I went looking for the post in question, and I was unable to find it. If I got your position wrong here, I apologize.


Good. Thank you. But maybe you should get out of attack dog mode and less of this would happen.

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As I remembered it, you said something about knowing a guy into age regression who did better finding a forum more in line with that interest. Ergo, look in other areas for the off road kink interests.


There is a difference between being helpful and telling someone to buzz off. What I wrote here is:

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I am not a mommy domme and it doesn't play at all into my fantasies. I however have a very good RL friend who is into infantilism and after many years on this site finding no one (at least not locally), he has some success on a site such as FetLife.com which is very fetish specific. You might find the same.


Again, stop twisting my words. It makes you look like an asshat.

- LA




cloudboy -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 6:42:08 PM)

That's the one!

>I am not a mommy domme and it doesn't play at all into my fantasies. I however have a very good RL friend who is into infantilism and after many years on this site finding no one (at least not locally), he has some success on a site such as FetLife.com which is very fetish specific. You might find the same.<

Right. To my mind Fetlife would be a different forum, not a different thread. Anyway, your point stuck with me after reading it, and I agreed with it. I did get the specifics wrong (infantilism not CDs), I agree, but the thrust of the comment was meant to have a general application. (As I read it. Also, I never implied anything about buzzing off, that was your reading too much into my words.)

Thank you for the clarification. It was a good anecdote on your part.





LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 7:02:55 PM)

Until you choose to apologize to me for all the unprovoked and false accusations you made about me on other threads, false accusations that I proved and you chose to ignore, I can't take anything you direct at me as positive, especially after having seen your level of hostility towards Dommes here.

- LA




stella41b -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 7:58:06 PM)

I've been keeping tabs on this thread right from the start and just felt that I might chime in here with my views.

First off I'm surprised that we've reached 8 pages here and nobody's considered that the OP might not be intentionally enforcing his kink on us, but this could be a genuine cry for help. It doesn't matter how we see the OP, the plain and simple fact is that we are dealing with someone who is transgendered to some degree which is the last bastion it would appear of tolerance when it comes to gender. Transgendered here means the umbrella term, right through both genders from the male panty wearer right through to the genetic mosaic and the intersexed.

However I'm not posting to defend the OP or stick up for him, he can do that on his own. It was highly inappropriate to start such a thread in the manner he did, it was highly inappropriate for him to post the pictures he did at the start, especially as he claims to be a graphic artist in his profile and I doubt that this counts as among his more considered actions in life.

And yes, when I first started out exploring crossdressing and attempting to transition I looked pretty freakish too, and yes I expressed the same sentiments and wishes as he did. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Not everybody who is transgendered can look like Barbie dolls or Pamela Anderson.

Some of the invective and abuse he got on this thread from regular posters was uncalled for. Let's assume that this message board is offline and say we're at a munch, and he comes in in RL inappropriately dressed. Would you go out of your way to hurl abuse at him then?

But then again it's got to be said - and here is my advice for the OP and others in a similar situation - wanting to give up your gender and become the opposite gender long term (irrespective of whether it is forced or not) might seem attractive to you, it might seem even appropriate or a solution to those unfulfilled needs or desires, but it's pretty extreme as a desire.

If it becomes so extreme that you leave your senses and abandon all rational thought then at least have the maturity to exercise some self-restraint and stop and think before acting. Yes transgendered folk are a part of the BDSM community but this doesn't necessarily mean that the community is the appropriate environment to solve your gender issues. These are YOUR issues, nobody else's and while those who hurled invective and abuse in your direction there was a reason behind this which you would be well advised to bear in mind - nobody likes having someone's kinks or issues pushed into their faces.

You are not the only man with a feminization fantasy or desire, you are not the only guy who enjoys or has a need to dress as a woman or function as one, but each time you come into a public forum like this one and shove it in people's faces not only do you piss them off, you also make it much harder for others in your situation and in turn, for yourself.

If your desires or issues (or fantasies for that matter) become so strong then you need to be talking to someone, and I doubt that the person you need to be talking to are strangers on a message board such as this one. The BDSM community isn't the place for such issues, and if you haven't got someone in your life with whom you can talk about these issues then maybe you need to consider looking for a support group.

A little consideration works wonders. There's room here for everyone and I for one just don't see the need for hostility.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 8:05:35 PM)

Brava! Brilliantly said and I agree with every single word.

- LA




cloudboy -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 8:34:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Until you choose to apologize to me for all the unprovoked and false accusations you made about me on other threads, false accusations that I proved and you chose to ignore, I can't take anything you direct at me as positive, especially after having seen your level of hostility towards Dommes here.

- LA


Understood, but that's not going to happen because we don't have a meeting of the minds here. Anyway, glad we could clarify one thing.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 8:41:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Until you choose to apologize to me for all the unprovoked and false accusations you made about me on other threads, false accusations that I proved and you chose to ignore, I can't take anything you direct at me as positive, especially after having seen your level of hostility towards Dommes here.

- LA


Understood, but that's not going to happen because we don't have a meeting of the minds here. Anyway, glad we could clarify one thing.


There are plenty of people here with whom I do not have a meeting of the minds with but they don't follow me on threads only to berate me and maliciously twist my words. And for that, even if we have differing opinion, they have my respect.

Because of the reasons I stated above, and this latest refusal to admit your fault, you do not have my respect.

- LA




NihilusZero -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 9:01:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stella41b

It was highly inappropriate to start such a thread in the manner he did, it was highly inappropriate for him to post the pictures he did at the start, especially as he claims to be a graphic artist in his profile and I doubt that this counts as among his more considered actions in life.

Not really. The ToS lays out the implied consent of members here to sexual and adult content. His images didn't violate even any nudity specifics that may or may not be applicable.

We could argue whether it was necessarily tactful or useful towards the audience he was hoping to get responses from, but both of those are matters of taste.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 9:22:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b

It was highly inappropriate to start such a thread in the manner he did, it was highly inappropriate for him to post the pictures he did at the start, especially as he claims to be a graphic artist in his profile and I doubt that this counts as among his more considered actions in life.

Not really. The ToS lays out the implied consent of members here to sexual and adult content. His images didn't violate even any nudity specifics that may or may not be applicable.

We could argue whether it was necessarily tactful or useful towards the audience he was hoping to get responses from, but both of those are matters of taste.



NZ. There is a difference with what is permissable and what is appropriate. It is permissable for any woman to wear white spandex pants. It is however not appropriate for most. Get it hun? ;-)

- LA




NihilusZero -> RE: Daily Feminization (1/31/2010 9:26:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

NZ. There is a difference with what is permissable and what is appropriate. It is permissable for any woman to wear white spandex pants. It is however not appropriate for most. Get it hun? ;-)

- LA

I'd much prefer to test that theory by requiring all women to wear them so we can make sure.

I have no problem ignoring the ugly parts of any populace.

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zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Daily Feminization (2/1/2010 3:45:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

NZ. There is a difference with what is permissable and what is appropriate. It is permissable for any woman to wear white spandex pants. It is however not appropriate for most. Get it hun? ;-)

- LA

I'd much prefer to test that theory by requiring all women to wear them so we can make sure.

I have no problem ignoring the ugly parts of any populace.

[image]http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/punkrockitslife/cool-2.gif[/image]



NZ, trust me on this noone wants to see me in spandex pants of any color unless there is something covering my body. Seriously. There is a good reason for my not doing so, noone, but noone deserves to be punished that way.




SolangeRichards -> RE: Daily Feminization (2/1/2010 4:09:45 AM)

Zephyr, if you want to wear spandex pants, go ahead and wear them. I'm betting you will look just fine in them and you will not be punishing anyone when you do.

Of course we all have "looks" that are better for us than others, but I'm a firm believer in wearing whatever clothing makes you happy.

Really.

Trust me on that.....




LadyAngelika -> RE: Daily Feminization (2/1/2010 4:20:47 AM)

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I'd much prefer to test that theory by requiring all women to wear them so we can make sure.


Pervert.

- LA




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Daily Feminization (2/1/2010 4:25:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SolangeRichards

Zephyr, if you want to wear spandex pants, go ahead and wear them. I'm betting you will look just fine in them and you will not be punishing anyone when you do.

Of course we all have "looks" that are better for us than others, but I'm a firm believer in wearing whatever clothing makes you happy.

Really.

Trust me on that.....


Trust me when I say that I have no interest in wearing spandex pants, Solange, this was in response to NZ's post about how he would like to see all women wearing them to test out Lady A's example of the difference between "permissible" and "appropriate"

Thank you for the vote of confidence though [:)]

zeph




MmeRegineSybille -> RE: Daily Feminization (2/1/2010 9:21:16 AM)

With some slaves........on occasion......I enjoy this.......to take a virile man and dress him as a girl to ridicule him...........but dear catia you must know that even a Woman like Me does not enjoy seeing random photographs of an unknown trollop like yourself......it only pushes Us away!.........do you wish to serve a Woman and entertain Her as She wishes in this way or is your objective to offend and push away a Woman that might otherwise be interested in you?




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