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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/5/2010 10:01:32 PM

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I don't have one. :(

No where near me is there a penis or some penii. Dammit.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 1:45:31 AM

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it is "Penii"
and if you had one, I would find that rather discouraging.

I think she is right. Penises is good for the english plural. But I think penus is a third declension noun. The latin plural is penes.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 3:40:05 AM

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it is "Penii"
and if you had one, I would find that rather discouraging.

I think she is right. Penises is good for the english plural. But I think penus is a third declension noun. The latin plural is penes.

Penes from heaven.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 5:41:04 AM

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How odd all this is, no people shouldn't go gambling if they havent any money, they shouldn't get into debt for things like that, that doesn't mean that people who have got the money shouldnt spend their money in that way. It isn't two irreconcilable statements. Vagas publicises itself as a city of excess thats its selling point, now that people are struggling people cant afford excess, Vegas can't complain about what it set itself up to be just because the market isn't facilitating it at the moment

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 7:50:38 AM

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Thanks for the insight. I didn't realize that I had become a fringe element of the country. I shall have to remember that. I find it funny that out of my entire set of comments in this topic, that one phrase is the one you choose to base your commentary of my views on. If you look at the full context of my remarks in that post, you will see that it is not meant as some sort of conspiracy theory, just that he has no practical knowledge of how to implement (or have implemented) his policies. His personal experiences in Chicago and Illinois politics, don't include consensus making, it is one of almost straight party line voting. You speak of my paranoia, how would you describe your description of the political driveby, that it was all about revenge, and couldn't possibly be about the contents of the bill.

Perhaps I was mistaken about your intent, Thadius. If so I apologize. However, in full context your remarks do suggest you believe Obama is trying to seize more power, and such sentiment does seem to be the stuff of fringe groups. If you disavow membership then your word is taken.

"Take the TARP money (taxpayer cash and that which has been paid back), while the Congress gave almost a blank check towards buying up the tainted assets, it did not give any permissions for the repayment funds. Those funds are supposed to go back into the treasury, preferrably to repay the debt, until Congress decides what those funds are to be spent on. This administration has taken the Bush initiative to keep trying to sieze even more power from the other 2 branches, and run with it. It is a well thought out calculated risk, basicly an end run around the Constitution.

So I would say yes he is as smart as reputed, he knows just enough to be dangerous."

Furthermore, it was GWB's Sec of Treasury Paulson who changed the use of the TARP money as reported by USA Today in May 2009:

"The companies below have received money from the government's Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) as of May 7, 2009. The Treasury Department's list is mostly organized by date, beginning with Oct. 28, 2008. If a company appears more than once, as Bank of America does, it received money on more than one date or under more than one program, as noted.

Most of the transactions are purchases of preferred stock with warrants to buy additional stock."

The money was hardly used to buy up distressed assets because it was difficult to determine a Market value for those assets at the time. Paulson defied Congress from the start with a bait and switch.

Elsewhere and unrelated to the above complaint, you lamented:

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Secondly, if you think that the entitlement mentality is something that exists only in my mind, you are really disconnected from what is going on around the country. I guess you missed the droves of folks lining up for "Obama money", numerous times this past year? Or the part of the State of the Union addressing paying for college? That should make for an interesting entitlement.

I would remind you it is not just "droves of folks" lining up for govt money. Capitalized industries have been doing the same since the 19th Century in the form of tax breaks, earmarks, and subsidies. As an example, farm subsidies were begun during the Depression of the 1930s and have continued through every Congress since. So, it is not just the "folk" who have an entitlement mentality and line up at the govt teat.

Furthermore, it is not my contention that the president is just a figurehead of his party. I submit that Administration and Legislature, and both major political parties, share equal blame for the dysfunction of this govt, not just the Prez as Merc insinuates with his OP question.

No personal offense intended by me to you, T.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 7:57:23 AM

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So, didn't you just admit the topic of your thread is a waste of time and you were wrong?
No.

Having comprehension and reading skills you would realize that the thread used the lastest negative reference made by the President concerning Vegas as an opening to discuss the possible disclosing of an agenda by doing so. Or the other choice would have been to illustration his stupidity for doing something which, as expected, generated negative feed back.

Glad to help you catch up and hope I cleared it up for you.

The above is nowhere to be found in your OP.
You make a post that denigrates the president for telling those who can't afford it not to squander their money on trips to Vegas.
Nine pages of discussion and then you post this and chide the poster because he could not read your mind.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 3:19:46 PM

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it is "Penii"
and if you had one, I would find that rather discouraging.

I think she is right. Penises is good for the english plural. But I think penus is a third declension noun. The latin plural is penes.

Penes from heaven.

You hear us knocking. Open up.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 3:23:02 PM

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Well I would say yes...unless you have better grades from better colleges to say different. I find it interesting all those putting him down as not being smart, Have you ever filled out an application for Harvard and been accepted, then graduate at the top of yur class?

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 6:16:38 PM

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So tazzy, you are saying that a city built way out in the middle of a Godforsaken desert that produces nothing but gambling, whores, and Nudes On Ice is economically precarious, and vulnerable to a sudden change in spending habits?

Nawww....it has to be Obama's offhand remark!

It must be!

Finally. Not to mention lines of slovenly people in buffets of cheap food, old people wasting away the ss income, and idiot wannabe's enjoying the tacky sights like the Venitian or NY,NY. Um, those are actual places. Go there instead, not the bastardized tacky grotesque pretend versions of some of the world's most amazing places. I have been to Vegas so many times, not by choice, and it gets more and more cheap and vulgar everytime. Thank God my love feels the same way and would actually really go to Venice. Yes Merc, I have also eaten at Nobu while there, and at all the celeb chef places, and been to front row seats for Cirque, blah blah it is still a plastic whore in the middle of a dreary desert and the ugliest place in the world by daylight. It's a broken place for broken people.

I mean yeah sure, an all you can eat buffett every 25 feet and 49.00 rooms are a sure sign of elegance.

/ Sorry Vegas fans, but you can keep it.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 6:59:17 PM

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lol.. funny you mention Nobu... my head sushi chef worked there for 4 years before moving to Pittsburgh to work.

But thank you for your post, else i would have continued to miss Master Animus' reply to me, which im sure he will properly beat me for once he gets the chance. But then again, im trying to skim through his postings, because, honestly, the Daddy Chaney thing still has me gagging!

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 7:14:26 PM

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God my love feels the same way and would actually really go to Venice.

Nice place too. If you go stop in at Harry's for a Bellini and tell them we sent you. We enjoyed it so much we made it the signature drink at our wedding.

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Yes Merc, I have also eaten at Nobu while there, and at all the celeb chef places, and been to front row seats for Cirque, blah blah it is still a plastic whore in the middle of a dreary desert and the ugliest place in the world by daylight. It's a broken place for broken people.

Never been to Nobu - heard it was a dump where tourists go to overpay for bad food. In fact - I heard the last chef was so bad - he moved to Pittsburgh of all places!

I've found that attitudes and the company of people I'm with make ugly place beautiful and beautiful places spectacular. Then again I guess the reverse is also true. Obviously it's been your experience in Vegas, among other places.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 7:23:31 PM

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Tsk tsk, Merc... you are showing your ignorance now... especially among foodies and fine dining! but i expected no less.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/6/2010 8:00:11 PM

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To answer your questions, I will do so from the mindset that is being taught to the populace.

1. If I can't make my mortgage payment, the government will help me out; there's programs for that now. Besides, I might as well enjoy this cool boat for a summer or 2.

2. I might win some money, have a good time, and get married; besides those grants are free and I can take out some of those "interest free" loans.

How about you answer my question from your own point of view instead of some made up position that exists only in your mind.
I asked a really simple fucking question "Why is it a good idea to ..."
Now if you can't come up with a good reason to blow your money in Vegas when you need it for necisities then for fucks sake why are you ragging on the president for saying it's a bad idea?

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I understand now, we get to dictate in what manner our questions are answered by others. Very cool.

Yes that is how it works you ask a question and I answer it. I ask a question and you answer it. Pretty simple huh? But you do not want to answer my question you want to run your mouth about your talking points ie.How fucked up everyone is except you.

If you are not bright enough to understand what I wrote and understand the sarcasm in it, I suggest you probably wouldn't be able to understand me explaining it more from my point of view.

Try me.

Secondly, if you think that the entitlement mentality is something that exists only in my mind, you are really disconnected from what is going on around the country. I guess you missed the droves of folks lining up for "Obama money", numerous times this past year? Or the part of the State of the Union addressing paying for college? That should make for an interesting entitlement.

Would you be willing to give up your "entitlements". You know things like the mortgage interest deduction?, the deduction for dependents?, your GI bill?
Your military preference in civil service hireing? These are just a few but the list is quite long.

Finally, I could care less if somebody wants to go blow their life savings in Vegas or on crack.

That is not the question I asked.
This is:
I asked a really simple fucking question "Why is it a good idea to ..."
Now if you can't come up with a good reason to blow your money in Vegas when you need it for necisities then for fucks sake why are you ragging on the president for saying it's a bad idea?

It is the hypocrisy that the President talks about everybody needing to tighten their belts and not spend more than they make, while continuing the out of control spending habits of the government. I mean afterall, doesn't that money they are spending in D.C. belong to us? You mean like the previous resident of 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

These discussions would probably go much better if you stuck to discussing the topic, and not getting into the personal attack game. Then again what do I know?

Well you know how to make personal attacks instead of sticking to discussing the topic.
From this post alone we have:

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If you are not bright enough to understand what I wrote

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 3:51:55 AM

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Tsk tsk, Merc... you are showing your ignorance now... especially among foodies and fine dining! but i expected no less.

Tazzy, pretty much. The food at Nobu was excellent, and I have eaten sushi in Asia, every chinatown/little japan in the US, I was married to an Asian for years, so no, it was full of the trendy beautiful people Merc. It's Vegas overall, the garishness, the whole soulless feel of the place that just makes me not like it. Of course you've been to Venice Merc, because I have. You are a fan of oneupmanship. :) Besdies, you disparage tourists in Vegas? I didn't realize you were a native? Ohhhh..you aren't. Nice try, didn't sting at all though.

Tazzy, you work at a sushi restaurant? Nice. Jealous.

We have an amazingly authentic one right here in town, it's excellent.

http://www.suzukisushi.com/index.htm

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 4:07:42 AM

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lol.. yes i do! and until i started working there, never wanted to taste sushi! Chef does an amazing job.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 5:43:33 AM

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Yep me too, I never wanted to try it, and when I did, it was the usual california roll for beginner's.

. Now it's uni, surf clam, chef's omakase, you name it. Oh and lot's of sake!

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 7:08:37 AM

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Tsk tsk, Merc... you are showing your ignorance now... especially among foodies and fine dining! but i expected no less.

Someone drops a restaurant or city name and the reply can't be a first hand reality - it only must be to "one up" them or you. As if that were critical.

Fear not Tazzy, your posts prove that when it comes to ignorance there is no "one upping" you.

You want to try to denigrate disagreement I'm more than happy to get in the mud and muck where you live. You should never expect any less.

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you disparage tourists in Vegas?

No - just ignorance. Appreciate you and Tazzy another of your frequent examples.

This thread wasn't about Vegas, Nabu or tourists. It's about a President who beliefs his agenda is served by denigrating a large part of the economy of a city. I don't have a political or personal motivation to need to distract from that discussion by rating restaurants or favorite cities of the world. There would have been no comment to be made if the President used Venice instead Vegas; because he's allegedly not responsible for any economic turn around in Venice Italy.

But you can't talk about that, you need to talk about me. Well go ahead.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 7:43:27 AM

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LOL... take another toke, Merc! it will ALL be better!

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 8:25:36 AM

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Merc, please. No one could possible talk about you more than......you. Tazzy and I would be exhausted attempting.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/7/2010 1:32:39 PM

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Merc:
I am still waiting for you to tell me why it is a bad thing for the president to agree with you?
He thinks it is a bad idea to spend the rent money in Vegas on gambling and you have said you feel the same way.
Since you both feel the same way why are you slamming him for saying so?
You have been unable to show any causal relationship between his statement and any downward turn in the Vegas economy.

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