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Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:10:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		For about the past 4-5 years, I've been using organic butter at the rate of around 1/4lb per month. I've used about one pat per 1/4lb of frozen veggies, per baked potato (both white and sweet), per cup of oatmeal; and 1/2 pat per 1/4lb of baked fish.

I've recently decided to eliminate dairy products from my diet, and I'm now looking for healthy substitute ideas for real butter.

For example, olive oil is healthy, but somewhat on the bland side as a replacement for butter on the foods I've mentioned above. Are there any spices that can be added to olive oil to improve its blandness?

Any other ideas? Calories are of no concern here. Natural only please. No chemically or genetically altered substances.

Thanks!
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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:21:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why not learn to use spices, rather than relying on flavorful oil?

The "flavor" in butter is the fat.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:28:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like garlic, sage and thyme with my olive oil
I also like garlic butter/margerine
I admit I do love butter, and like cheese, couldnt give it up, unless bribed or otherwise coerced
I was going to suggest philly cheese but ahem that s dairy too
oh and oatmeal??? never had butter in mine, sorry cant help



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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:32:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Earth Balance.
No dairy, and it tastes good.
I see it in most supermarkets too.

http://www.earthbalancenatural.com/


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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think it would be wise for me to further reduce my fat intake, as I can barely maintain my weight as it is. I think it would be very wise for me to replace as much animal fat and protein with as much vegetable fat and protein as possible, however.

Butter and cheese are going to be pretty tough for me to give up though, I'm afraid... which is why I'm looking for ideas.

But yes, I believe spices need to play a much larger role here than they have in the past.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:40:57 AM   
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I like garlic, sage and thyme with my olive oil


I will try this combo.

Thanks!

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:43:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KITTYLECTRO

Earth Balance.
No dairy, and it tastes good.
I see it in most supermarkets too.

http://www.earthbalancenatural.com/



I tried your link. Too bad they don't give the list of ingredients. I'll need to read a label at the store.

Thanks for the lead.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:45:30 AM   
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they have a bunch of them

http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/cat/c,2339,0,Bread-Dip-Recipes.html

I usually just make mine up but I googled and found the above........the first looks like one I've made in the past


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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:48:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subfever

I don't think it would be wise for me to further reduce my fat intake, as I can barely maintain my weight as it is. I think it would be very wise for me to replace as much animal fat and protein with as much vegetable fat and protein as possible, however.

Butter and cheese are going to be pretty tough for me to give up though, I'm afraid... which is why I'm looking for ideas.

But yes, I believe spices need to play a much larger role here than they have in the past.


Then why are you cutting out the dairy?

Seems a silly arbitrary decision, at least based on what we know so far.

Anyway....

Nuts are a good source of fat--along with other health benefits.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:53:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/recs/77/Carrabbas-Herb-Oil-for-Dippin86209.shtml

they have a bunch of them

http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/cat/c,2339,0,Bread-Dip-Recipes.html

I usually just make mine up but I googled and found the above........the first looks like one I've made in the past



The first thing that came to mind when I saw CDKITCHEN was Cross Dresser's Kitchen... lol

I don't eat bread, but their recipe sure looks good. Made me hungry, actually...

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 11:58:10 AM   
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Then why are you cutting out the dairy?

Seems a silly arbitrary decision, at least based on what we know so far.



I electively seek to eliminate casein protein from my diet.

quote:

Anyway....

Nuts are a good source of fat--along with other health benefits.


Indeed they are. I eat at least 2 lbs of nuts per week.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:01:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it isn't for bread then I would zero in on recipes for whatever you are trying to substitute the butter for. I know that in many recipes, ground flax seed can be used in place of a fat, in addition to replacing eggs.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:04:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

If it isn't for bread then I would zero in on recipes for whatever you are trying to substitute the butter for. I know that in many recipes, ground flax seed can be used in place of a fat, in addition to replacing eggs.


I didn't know this. I'll give it a try!

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:10:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		why casein? you think you got milk allergy?

what amino acids do you give up? or do you have the complete complement of amino acids (in the right proportions) without?

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:39:36 PM   
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why casein? you think you got milk allergy?

what amino acids do you give up? or do you have the complete complement of amino acids (in the right proportions) without?


No, I have no allergies or intolerances to milk. When I was younger, I did have a lactose intolerance, but this has subsided some years ago.

To answer your question (but hopefully not derail my OP) the more I've learn about animal protein, the more baby steps I've taken to lower my overall consumption over time. Lately, I've seen claims that casein protein poses a larger threat to human health than other animal proteins.

Except for a rare organic milkshake (2 or 3 a year) I do not drink milk or use cream. 3 lbs of organic butter a year probably won't hurt me. However, my cheese consumption has been much higher, at about 1/2 lb a week.

My meat/poultry/fish consumption totals 3-4 oz per day (about 1.5 lbs per week) with at least half of this being fish.

I can see a vegan diet sometime in my future, but I'm not ready to fully commit at this time. But I thought I'd experiment with some healthy substitutes for butter. If I find something I particularly like, I may also substitute it for cheese in many instances.

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:42:20 PM   
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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:44:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		More power to you because there is NO WAY I am giving up cheese!

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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 12:48:57 PM   
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coconut milk

vegetable oil



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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 1:30:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subfever
I tried your link. Too bad they don't give the list of ingredients. I'll need to read a label at the store.

Wow, you're right, how silly of them!
To the best of my knowledge EB is casein-free.


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RE: Butter Substitutes? - 2/3/2010 2:05:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sesame oil, walnut oil, hazelnut oil, almond oil, poppyseed oil, grape seed oil, and pumpkin seed oil are pretty flavourful options.

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