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RE: A question about responsibilities - 2/8/2010 10:15:42 AM   
RCdc


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Second guessing another person is pretty unhealthy, so thinking and placing unrealistic expectations on anyone, including your dominant or Master is poison.
Discussing what your Master chooses and deciding if you are compatable leads to more realistic understanding.  I don't get to 'think' his responsibility is - he decides not I.

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You know i thought about this too - saying that his responsibility is "whatever he wants." But in reality, there are responsibilities that he takes on with me, and that i need for him to take on, in order for me to feel safe, and to trust him, in my service to him.

i see it again as coming down to compatibility - i need someone who wants to take these responsibilities for me, and he needs someone to serve him in the way that i do. i don't think that that creates "unrealistic expectations" - i think that it's a matter of open and honest communication when establishing the Owner/property relationship that we have to determine if those individual desires and needs from each other are compatible, or not. And that communication continues during the relationship as well, it never goes away, to speak openly and honestly about our current needs from each other.

Even a slave who is kept as unloved property and locked in a cage (or whatever) 24/7 has needs, and an Owner must meet those needs for her - even basic needs like food, water, and shelter - unless he wants her to die from neglect. And that isn't what we do here.

So yes, he does have responsibilities for me, and i need him to meet them for me, in order for me to be my best at serving him.

Just my thoughts.


As laid out, I would agree.  But as each person is an individual, 'responsibility' becomes a pointless word IMO.
I can look after myself - I can cook and purchase items, work, even go fishing or hunting should I need to... I drink to live.
If I am being out in a cage 24/7 (using your example) that isn't about responsibilty, that is about choice.  One I can agree to or not.  Feeding myself, taking care of myself is my responsibility, not anyone elses.  If I chose to defer that to another authority that is a choice I make.

If I get put in a cage because I have submitted to that, then I don't get to pick and choose how that comes about and what happens to me while I am inside.  But I already know that he decided what responsibility comes with that action and I agree to it - I don't insist on the responsibility or that would make me the Master/Mistress.

Now, if I am in a accident, and the responsibility for my care is taken out of my hands - that is responsibility because there is no choice in the matter - other than the fact that he could leave me.

Putting responsibility onto another person would make my submission conditional to my needs instead of Master, and that is an alien concept to innate submission IMO.

the.dark.



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RE: A question about responsibilities - 2/8/2010 1:48:38 PM   
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Are we actually talking about responsibilities here or commitments? I see no difference in responsibilities when it comes to a relationship, which for me is to look after the wellbeing of each other and the relationship. However I see a mile of difference if we're talking about commitments. 

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