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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

When your life expectancy is measured in seconds, the police are only minutes away.

If I hear one more person repeat this stupid NRA propaganda quote I'm going to break out my AK-47 and go postal on this board.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I think the mafia killed John Kennedy and I don't remember why that moron killed Robert. The other 2, the guy who tried to kill Reagan and the guy who killed John Lennon, I forgot their names now, they were both nuts and I hope they never get out.

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

Nobody is going to assassinate PrezBo, Brain. The last thing anyone wants is this guy to become a martyr. The next to the last thing anyone wants is for Biden to be president.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

Not to be so bold as to get to the original point......

The actual ranks of the unorganized militia haven't grown all that much, they are just becoming more active. They layed low for a time after that nutcase farmboy Timmy gave them a black eye over in OKC. They see this as a good time to get more active, the politcal climate is much more favorable now, and I agree.

I predict we will see more of the unorganized militia in the future. There are several reasons for this. First of all with a democrat in office, more of a threat is percieved, which will impel them to spread the word so as to increase their numbers. Whether true or not, they see democrats as gun grabbers. What's more the imminent collapse of the system is alot easier to sell now, for obvious reasons. Even if the new recruits have no notion of taking up arms against the government (which is the true intent of the second inclusive), they will percieve a threat of increased crime due to the coming recession.

Coming you say ? That from someone who says it's already here ? Yes it is already here, but it has not run it's course.

They stress the importance of one's right and responsibility for their own defense, and the ability to survive amidst a total breakdown. Being able to live "off the grid" is becoming more alluring as the dollar plummets and the government finds more and more enemies.

While there are a few nutcases, generally these people are within their rights. Paramilitary and survival training are assets, and more people are going to see that. The only problem I have with them is that they are a bit too religious.

Oh, and to the tangental argument about guns deterring crime, I've one thing to say : Please don't try to rob me because I just got new carpeting. If it were just the bloodstain I would just get the jumbo size drum of hydrogen peroxide, but it's also a matter of making a nice tote bag for your carcass afterward. Well, at least the tackless is in good shape.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I don’t think people having guns as a deterrent works. If you want to reduce crimes get rid of guns like England or Canada and see the amount of violence and crime go down.

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ORIGINAL: MrMister

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ORIGINAL: Brain

Evidence that angry Americans are arming themselves for violence is hard to ignore.

Please forgive me for the intrusion, but why do you suppose folks are arming themselves for violence? Particularly, the inference that it is violence against the powers that be? Please correct me if I am misunderstanding this point.

I think that it is barely possible the upturn in the numbers of folks arming themselves nowadays may very well have to do with being a deterrent to crime. After all, criminals in general, flourish where there are plenty of helpless victims. 

I'm strictly guessing here, but a recent FBI release indicates that violent crime is down, during the same time those nasty gun sales were on the increase, which may not be completely coincidental. I personally think it is not a coincidence.

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec09/crimestats_122109.html

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Interesting that the arguments made recently on another thread about publishing the names of those with concealed carry permits were exactly the opposite.

It was said that publishing those names made the gun owners a target of crime by those wanting to steal their guns.

Can't have it both ways. 

Either they are a deterrent or an attraction to crime. 

You and the NRA need to make up your minds.

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I don’t think people having guns as a deterrent works. If you want to reduce crimes get rid of guns like England or Canada and see the amount of violence and crime go down.