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jujubeeMB -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:14:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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As for flames, I'll sit here and take them.

Masochist ;-)

- LA


Lol. Touché [:D]




ResidentSadist -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:17:37 PM)

You stole my line . . . you bastard!
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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

Yes, you wrote to my experimental female profile.
 
Don't forget we are having a long session of experimental sex later.





dreamerdreaming -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:29:01 PM)

I'm crushed.

My plane ticket is non-refundable.


[sm=river.gif]




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:33:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

I'm crushed.

My plane ticket is non-refundable.


[sm=river.gif]



Come to me sweet dreamdreamdreamy!  You, mee and Juju makes three
we'll start us a poly family

WinD
The Collector




jujubeeMB -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:40:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

I'm crushed.

My plane ticket is non-refundable.


[sm=river.gif]



Come to me sweet dreamdreamdreamy!  You, mee and Juju makes three
we'll start us a poly family

WinD
The Collector


Let's especially do so because your picture is now perverted Winnie the Pooh, and that is absolutely the best thing I've seen on this site.

[sm=biggrin.gif]




DarkSteven -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:53:26 PM)

I'm not in the least surprised.  A female sub should be able to know what a female sub wants.

The questions are:

1. So are male Doms not sending letters like that because they don't know what female subs want?
2. Or are they simply relating their own desires and nelgecting those of the subs?
3. Or are they simply too lazy to spend the fifteen minutes per letter?




LadyAngelika -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:56:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I'm not in the least surprised.  A female sub should be able to know what a female sub wants.

The questions are:

1. So are male Doms not sending letters like that because they don't know what female subs want?
2. Or are they simply relating their own desires and nelgecting those of the subs?
3. Or are they simply too lazy to spend the fifteen minutes per letter?



Steven, invert the D and the s and the statement would equally be true.

That said, I've gotten amazingly wonderful emails from submissive and dominant men that had me grinning from ear to ear.

- LA




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 2:59:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I'm not in the least surprised.  A female sub should be able to know what a female sub wants.

The questions are:

1. So are male Doms not sending letters like that because they don't know what female subs want?
2. Or are they simply relating their own desires and nelgecting those of the subs?
3. Or are they simply too lazy to spend the fifteen minutes per letter?



I dunno DarkSteven,

I propose you be the control study of this little experiement.  Just write me a letter, and I'll get back to you on the results.

WinD




jujubeeMB -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:00:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I'm not in the least surprised.  A female sub should be able to know what a female sub wants.

The questions are:

1. So are male Doms not sending letters like that because they don't know what female subs want?
2. Or are they simply relating their own desires and nelgecting those of the subs?
3. Or are they simply too lazy to spend the fifteen minutes per letter?



I knew I liked you [:)]




DarkSteven -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:02:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB

I knew I liked you [:)]


If I interpret that as a proposition, it makes me happy as hell.  [:)]




domiguy -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:02:21 PM)

So you made a fake profile but you probably attached "your" pic to that profile.

The only reason you got so many responses is because you appear to be damn near doable and it is a well known fact that every single woman on CM is bi.

Which is hot.





MasterSlaveLA -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:09:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB

I know this is not going to make me particularly popular, but I've just finished an experiment that I think had VERY interesting results, and I wanted to share. I started a fake profile as a straight male dom, and I made him very average looking, early 40s, with a profile that was very well thought out and tailored to sound extremely attractive to your average female sub. I said that I was "not looking for something casual," and that submission was something I felt I had to earn, as I earned a person's trust and respect. I put that I was looking for a partner in this, and that while I had quite a bit of experience and a passion for dominance, each person was unique and I had no illusions that I knew everything. I put all my interests as non-sexual things.

Then I proceeded to email a ton of women, all from around age 20 to 40, and I wrote very personal, kind, and warm messages. I took my time with each of them, and didn't push them to email, IM, or do ANYthing. Generally I closed out each email with "Good luck with everything, and I sincerely hope that you find you're looking for." Guess what? Every single woman I wrote to responded, and told me that my email and profile were "refreshing." I let them know about the experiment, and most told me that they were completely taken aback by how personal and kind and non-demanding my message had been - that it was incredibly rare to receive an email with any thought at all, much less one that made them feel respected.

So all the men complaining that women don't respond to messages: make a better profile, and write a kind, warm, respectful, personalized email. We may be on this website because of our sexuality, but our sexuality is not what's going to make us want to talk to you.


I rather like this "experiment"... shows how clueless those that complain actually are, and as usual, have only themselves to blame for their failure to find another.  Part of me thinks you should post the intro letter/email you'd used when contacting said female subs as a "how to" of sorts, but that'd only result in the twits using it as a form letter.  Better to let them continue to fail.





jujubeeMB -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:11:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB

I knew I liked you [:)]


If I interpret that as a proposition, it makes me happy as hell.  [:)]



Totally a proposition. Afraid you'll have to get in line after all the charming subs who've got me Dom-ing a poly house, however... [:D]




DarkSteven -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:15:30 PM)

/Elbows way past "charming subs" in a Domly manner/




VaguelyCurious -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:16:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

I rather like this "experiment"... shows how clueless those that complain actually are, and as usual, have only themselves to blame for their failure to find another.  Part of me thinks you should post the intro letter/email you'd used when contacting said female subs as a "how to" of sorts, but that'd only result in the twits using it as a form letter.  Better to let them continue to fail.


Isn't the whole *point* that there *is* no form letter? You get near-universal response if you write from scratch each time; she can't post 'the intro' because each one was tailored to the girl she was writing to.




domiguy -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:27:39 PM)

I don't believe you.  You are making this up.

I tend to get a high rate of responses if I ever take the time to write an introduction to any of you whores on this here thang. It's just the albatross I wear being thet silver tongued devil that I is.

100% success rate is damn near impossible.  100%?

I'z saying bullshit!!! The chicas know of the Domidong across the globe. Still there are those that are apparently too terrorized or have passed on and are incapable of responding. I am tallying a mere 92.6% rate of return. Which is barely acceptable.

Most the dudes out here are suuch douchebags that they couln't attract a fly if smeared in scat. 

Also as Clint says..." A man's gots to know his limitations."  Being that I am sharp as a tack and a fine piece of eye candy to boot, I have none.  Still, cum rises to it's own level. It is important for a dude to know not to try and outkick his coverage.

I have had offers to become a surrogate poster.






jujubeeMB -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:35:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

/Elbows way past "charming subs" in a Domly manner/


Why is there no smiley face for swooning?? [:D]




sexyred1 -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:36:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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i do feel bad though for all those ladies who thought you were for real. imagine how they felt when they read your e-mail and was full of hope.


I feel worse for people who are so desperate and simple-minded that all it takes is one email to fill them with hope.



Snort. Amen sister.




LadyPact -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:47:23 PM)

Play time aside (which I think some folks are seeing this) you creative a profile, specifically so you could run your experiment.  You deceived people into thinking you were another person so that you would get the result you wished to obtain.  Not to mention using an approach that you knew was more likely to get a response, therefore, wasting their time.  On top of lying to them for this, you involved them non consensually in your project, which you did not disclose to them until after you deceived them and got your result.

It would be My opinion that you honestly owe some folks an apology.




Shekicromaster -> RE: An Experiment (2/6/2010 3:51:51 PM)

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1. So are male Doms not sending letters like that because they don't know what female subs want?
2. Or are they simply relating their own desires and nelgecting those of the subs?
3. Or are they simply too lazy to spend the fifteen minutes per letter?


the possible answers are:
1 - they don't know what subs want
2 - they selfishly don't care
3 - they don't want to manipulate ( being it laziness or sincerity)

it being the classical theme of girls not wanting to hear the truth but to hear what sounds nice :D

Now it is easy to manipulate. You put yourself  in another person's position and instead of "fighting and pushing" him/her you manipulate his/her desires and feelings towards where you want them to be.  After all it is the essence of persuasion.

The question here is if someone want's the truth or a nice story designed to get you where we want you to be? Why do this doms ( or "doms" ) not write such letters? Because they are not girls and subs, they do not want the same things from the relationship.  And probably not experienced enough to "play the game".  It might be possible to get someone sincere writhing in such a fashion from time to time of course. But it is much more probable that nice words are just masks for exactly the same desires that those less skillful ones  express without that much tact.

Can I say to a girl what the original poster did? Of course. But the thing is I don't really care for this fluffy emotional thingies for a long time now, it remained somewhere in adolescence together with being a rock star, a sport champion and all other childish unrealistic fantasies. And don't get me wrong, I'm not that sex obsessed and promiscuous, I almost certainly had less relationships (nothing ever shorter than a few years) than an average person of my age. The fact however is that for as it usually does not start with same feelings and desires.  Out of 20 man I know maybe one will get in a relationship planning for marriage, children, looking for security, long term an all that..  To the most it will just happen along the way while looking for much less romantic things. So how probable is that a man talking like this is really sincere? And how probable it is that he is just pushing the right buttons to get the "prize"?

There is a classic novel about the sex tourists in Thailand, Private Dancer I believe would be the title.  Now I don't know how much of it is fiction and how much experience, but there was a funny statement there that katoeys (lady-boys) were giving the best blow jobs among prostitutes. Why? Because they knew exactly what a guy likes better than any women ever will. 
Of course a sub girl can relate better to other sub girls than someone who is not...

In conclusion - if someone want's a gender geared experience of perfect communication and understanding its very simple - just go lesbian :p




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