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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:16:38 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: VvShadowspawnvV

hiya, fellow ownedgirlie! =)

Master often calls me "girlie", and when i first saw your name, i said, "darn! that woulda been a good one!" =) And thanks. =)

becca


Hey back atcha!  It's funny, i have received emails from others, asking, "Do we have the same Master because mine calls me girlie, too."  The funny thing is, Master has never called me girlie.  i wanted to use the name ownedgirl but it was taken, so in a pinch i added the "ie". 

As for all these suggested "horrible things that should be limits," i'm right there with you - - i actually think i would prefer a cage over the closet he sometimes keeps me in but what can i say - i like to see my surroundings and i can't in the closet (i think that's his point, lol).

It all comes back to the same thing we've said on this board before - what is horrible for one person is a treat for another.  That's what makes us all unique, isn't it?

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:19:38 AM   
TedEbear


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Status: offline 		Ok I just got here and I really hafta ask. Are you people seriously no limit? Cause I have my limits, things that are to me just too repulsive or simply wrong.

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:26:39 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		I love the phrase "simply wrong."  That's right--it's wrong.  It's wrong because I say so.  Everyone knows it's wrong.  It's just wrong.  No discussion.  Oh, and if you don't think it's wrong--well, then you're just wrong too.

Come on TedEbear, EVERYONE has their own standard of what is "simply wrong."  Most people think the things we do are all "simply wrong."  That makes "simply wrong" simply useless.

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Cause I have my limits, things that are to me just too repulsive or simply wrong.

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:28:44 AM   
VvShadowspawnvV


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Status: offline 		*trying to decide whether to wrestle her for the name* =P

i think a big part of this is that, once we weed out all the physically impossible limits- no, i can not flap my arms and fly for my Master- and all the just-as-impossible-because-i'm a smart-girl-who-chose-to-submit-to-a-sane-man limits-ie, dismemberment... everything else is about attitude. A dog is just a dog. Pee is just pee. And, (i am speaking to slaves here- human property)the most important part is to remember that "you" don't belong to YOU anymore. Either you gave yourself to Him... or you didn't. Swallow the piss, or get off the pot. =P

becca

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:45:13 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: VvShadowspawnvV

*trying to decide whether to wrestle her for the name* =P

i think a big part of this is that, once we weed out all the physically impossible limits- no, i can not flap my arms and fly for my Master- and all the just-as-impossible-because-i'm a smart-girl-who-chose-to-submit-to-a-sane-man limits-ie, dismemberment... everything else is about attitude. A dog is just a dog. Pee is just pee. And, (i am speaking to slaves here- human property)the most important part is to remember that "you" don't belong to YOU anymore. Either you gave yourself to Him... or you didn't. Swallow the piss, or get off the pot. =P

becca


Indeed.

i have said on many occasions that i would not submit to a fool.  Before ever begging my Master's ownership, i asked about things like dismemberment and mutilation and death, etc..  His response was always, "What good would you do me dead?  Why would I want to remove an arm when I can make use of both of them?  you would do me no good in jail.  Why would I want to damage you and limit the ways in which you can serve me?"  Things like that.  So trust me, if he told me to jump off a cliff, i KNOW it is because there is something far more harmful to me that is about to occur if i don't.  That is why such challenges by others seem silly to me.

As for "gross" things and such.  It comes down to, do i obey or not?  Whether i prefer to do something or not is not the issue.  i have had to do many things i would have rather not done.  But he knows what is best, and in the long run i have become a stronger woman and a more deeply submissive slave to him.

As for my name...it's mine mine mine....um...i mean...His His His... although the wrestling could be fun.

LAM, great post also.

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:46:13 AM   
Reasonable


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Status: offline 		"No limits" just usually means "You'll do things I want you to", from top's perspective. It's a control freak thing, to weed out the "princess in control" crowd.

I don't know of very many who would be stupid enough to actually take it to the extremes of actually damaging someone.

From a slave perspective (such as that is, in a slaveless society that doesn't back up the dynamic) it only means that he or she approves of the top's conduct and personal limits. I guess you'd have to have been there to actually understand it clearly.

So it's hardly surprising that this topic usually gets blown way out of all reasonable proportion.

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:52:30 AM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Reasonable,

A wise man once said it doesn't matter what you say, it matters what they hear.  So when someone says "I want a no limits slave," I read "I want a slave who will never say no, no matter what I say."  I do have limits, and so if a Domme writes no limits, I usually won't respond.  To me, we are not compatible.  Why waste both of our time?

Just the way I read profiles.

Yours.


benji

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 11:57:29 AM   
Reasonable


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Status: offline 		True enough..........it does smack a little bit of a lack of connection to reality,does it not?

If you WANT something, there are plenty of ways to express it beyond meanigless catch phrases.......like " I only want a TWUE master,wannabees need not apply!"

I mean, what the hell IS that anyhow? So I agree,why not just be specific about your expectations,rather than put up some silly show of Top/bottom bravado?


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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 12:21:05 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		Oooooook. I've been approaching this all wrong. It's not the people who say they are have no limits who are nuts. It's the people who think that something is a limit which is NOT a limit nor can it ever be a limit.

So, I say to all the disbelievers out there who think I live in a fantasy world, I suggest it is 'you' who live in the fantasy world if you think that listing 'death' as a hard limit is going to prevent you from dying. Guess what? Yer gonna die.. it's NOT a hard limit and I speak for every person on the planet.. all 6+ billion of them. Death is upon you and not only that it can happen to you before you get a chance to finish reading this post. So you might as well take it off your list of hard limits because it's not even a choice.

Now that we've established that death is not and cannot be a hard limit, is it so hard to believe that if the ultimate in hard limits cannot be a hard limit something less than death.. is entirely possible?

Anyone who thinks that things are just too gross, too icky, to demoralizing, too anything, I say.. it's possible and being done by someone somewhere. There is a difference between a limit and an impossibility. If it's capable of being done, it is being done. So, you want to bring out your limits, instill them on someone else, that's fine, it doesn't have to be accepted by anyone but you.. but, every time you do that, I'm going to point out that death isn't a limit for you, so how can you deign to speak about someone else's limits and presume to know what is or is not a limit for them.

Celeste

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 12:49:10 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Celeste,

Listen, I respectfully respect your respectful post, but I have 22 years experience, 23 in a month.  Since day 1, death has been a hard limit, and so far, I have not crossed it once.  NOT A DAMN TIME!!!!  Others on here have far more experience with that hard limit.  Hell, just step up, prove your point in a poll on here. Anyone who has death as a limit, please tell us.  Then add in whether it has worked for you. 

If it has, I get a point.  If it hasn't, and you're dead, Celeste gets a point.  If you're lying about having died, we'll make you cross that limit, no safe word.

Then we'll see which limits don't work.

Yours,


benji


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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 1:10:45 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		Ok, agreed, but that limit still has to be in place 100 years from now, after all it is a HARD limit.. unchanging, never ending, not to be crossed or pushed, right, or each person who posts will have their point taken from them retroactively.

Agreed?

Celeste - ::chuckles because she's got underwear older than you::

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 1:33:59 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Listen, Celeste, we can sit here all day and discuss what the world will be like in 100 years, or you can just put your money where your mouth is. 

Now, are you gonna take my challenge, or are you fake?

Yours,


benji

Chuckles because he, also has underwear older than me.

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 3:19:58 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		I think the poll speaks for itself, darling, Benji. ;)

Celeste

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Rock, paper, scissors."

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 3:34:24 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Polls are only numbers, and numbers can be read any way you want to read them. 

If anyone needs me, I'll be upstairs, crying.

Yours,


benji

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 3:38:11 PM   
catize


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


So, I say to all the disbelievers out there who think I live in a fantasy world, I suggest it is 'you' who live in the fantasy world if you think that listing 'death' as a hard limit is going to prevent you from dying. Guess what? Yer gonna die.. it's NOT a hard limit and I speak for every person on the planet.. all 6+ billion of them. Death is upon you and not only that it can happen to you before you get a chance to finish reading this post. So you might as well take it off your list of hard limits because it's not even a choice.

Now that we've established that death is not and cannot be a hard limit, is it so hard to believe that if the ultimate in hard limits cannot be a hard limit something less than death.. is entirely possible?
Celeste

In an attempt to be clear, my hard limit is that I am not willing to die at the hands of anyone........accidents happen, but if he/she deliberately wants me dead, it's a limit whether he/she is a stranger, family member or dominant.   

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/21/2006 3:42:49 PM   
BitaTruble


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In an attempt to be clear, my hard limit is that I am not willing to die at the hands of anyone........accidents happen, but if he/she deliberately wants me dead, it's a limit whether he/she is a stranger, family member or dominant.   


Sounds reasonable to me. :) I don't want to die at the hands of a stranger either. Of course, I may have no choice in that.. murderers and what not, but it's certainly something that I hope to avoid!

Celeste

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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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RE: No limit slaves - 4/22/2006 7:17:26 PM   
sirvent


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Status: offline 		A 'no limit' slave is a rare item. i know of such a slave. But to be honest she is a no limit slave only to the One who would be totally trustworthy to her.  To trust anyone as a no limit slave would be foolish.  But to give up to a very special One is another story.
As a submissive, i could agree to no limits but only to the person who has the same interests, modivation and fetishes as me.  If and only if i know this information about this One Special Person would or could i be a no limit sub.


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RE: No limit slaves - 4/22/2006 9:59:54 PM   
scratchingpost


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Status: offline 		when I serve  it is with the understanding that it is my desire for Him to take for I do not lose what I give...It is with the understanding that I wish to "surrender for good or for evil without limit to His power" (masoch) there is also an understanding that I would not run off or choose just anyone to give such control to and that I am wise enough and strong enough to not allow myself to be harmed...pain yes harm no...

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RE: No limit slaves - 4/22/2006 10:30:55 PM   
DallasDeviant


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Status: offline 		Interesting discussion.

Here is my view. I tend to be literal. However, many on here are not. Some say they are kinky, but their idea of kinky is the woman on top. When I say no limits, I mean that the slave will accept anything, without limits on what happens to her. There are conditions, a time and palce, etc., but that is no longer under her control at the point she agrees to no limits. She has accepted her fate, and if she considers everything literally, she has agreed to anything I would ever what to do. Maybe I torture her, maybe I make her my biology experiment, as an expendible Dolcett slave, or maybe I just make her get on top. However, she will not limit what I do, or do not do. It is less (usually) about what I do with her, or to her, and more about the fact that she is that dedicated, or that interested in giving up those rights. No-limit is an direct English translation; it means "no limits" - no other interpretation is correct. If there are limits, then make that clear. If you want to be a no-limit slave, and not be beaten to death, get to know your Dom/Domme. However, there is not more than one definition of No-limit. It is what it is, even if it relates to only one specific dominant to whom you agree that you will have no limits.

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RE: No limit slaves - 5/8/2006 1:08:13 PM   
painslave97


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Status: offline 		Greetings All,
  This slave is new here & has just been reading the older thread on " 'no limits' slaves". When this slave gave it's self to Master it gave it's self 100%, mind, body & soul. This includes surrendering all will, any rights to think, feel or even live are for it's Master to decide. This is what this slave believes is meant by a "no limits slave", although each Master/slave realationship has it's own defintion of the term as well as definitions of surrender & total surrender.
  Enjoying total surrender to Master, painslave97 

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