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talmar -> No limit slaves (3/27/2006 8:36:16 AM)

I have noticed on some profiles here that some Dom/Dommes are seeking  no limit slaves.  Are there any no limit slaves? Are there any slaves here who identify as such? Tops is that something you desire? I certainly have limits but I will be interested in the replies.



thetammyjo -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 8:42:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: talmar

I have noticed on some profiles here that some Dom/Dommes are seeking no limit slaves. Are there any no limit slaves? Are there any slaves here who identify as such? Tops is that something you desire? I certainly have limits but I will be interested in the replies.


I consider such a idea to be based in fantasy not reality.

There will always be legal, social, moral, and physical limits. Even if these fade over years of being with a person the limits were still there at the beginning when the choices were being made.

Just think about it for a second. Chosing to pursue BDSM as way to achieve a relationship suggests quite strongly to me that there are limits to how things will go -- choice versus no choice, public forum to search versus dark alleyway, etc.

Some might call these preferences but I think they are also limits unless a person is basically doing absolutely everything to find a partner including illegal means.

I'm rambling again...



Halcyone -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 8:48:47 AM)

I've always read "no-limit slave" as "slave that comes to adopt the owner's limits". As a relationship progresses and the people involved become closer, it's natural for lines to blur. Sometimes, eventually, a slave or submissive becomes willing to set aside their limits for those chosen by their owner. But I feel it's silly to demand this immediately from someone you hardly know. It's difficult enough to manage with someone you've known for awhile and trust.



JohnWarren -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 8:50:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: talmar

I have noticed on some profiles here that some Dom/Dommes are seeking  no limit slaves.  Are there any no limit slaves? Are there any slaves here who identify as such? Tops is that something you desire? I certainly have limits but I will be interested in the replies.


In reality, "no limits" means "I want someone whose limits are the same as mine."  

That's the kindest explanation.  Others are "I have no imagination" and "I have no experience."




BeachMystress -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 9:00:45 AM)


I get a dozen contacts a month from men who claim to not have limits. I write back telling them that is just great.. I have a neighbor who needs to have his kneecaps broken. And after he does that, I tell him I'll have him rob a bank. I sometimes go into sacrificing goats and such. Strange, but I don't hear back from most of them again.




Wolfspet -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 10:48:26 AM)

Most of the people I know use the term to mean they carry their owners limits.  Personally, if the conversation ever turns to it, I have been heard to say I have Wolfs limits, or no limits with Wolf.

Now if someone who is "unowned" uses it, I just roll my eyes.



LadyMorgynn -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 10:53:46 AM)

If I see a Dom profile with "no limits", there are a few possibilities I consider: 
  1. He is a true sadist (possible, but not very likely)
  2. He is not a Dom at all but an abuser who uses BDSM to validate his abuse (not very likely, but still possible)
  3. He is a player and just likes to wank thinking about it (very good chance)
  4. He's a complete newbie and knows nothing at all about what BDSM is or encompasses, may have read a few books and thinks no limits is what a Dom is supposed to have a right to (also a very good chance)

If I see a sub profile with "no limits":
  1. I look for his level of experience.  If he's a very experienced sub, he may really know what he's doing and what he's getting into.
  2. If he's not very experienced (which is usually the case), he may have run into the "a real slave has no limits" crowd
  3. He's new to the scene and has no idea what no limits mean, and one can only nope and pray that he figures it out before he becomes a statistic
  4. Or of course, he could just be another wanker.  But I don't think even most wankers would get off on what can happen if you have a real "no limits" Dom, and if they did they'd grab their little peepees and run for Mommy as fast as their legs could carry them!



preciousgem -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:01:16 AM)

most people like to say they dont have a limit but they do some where, what i mean is as Mistress Beach postes the people that send her emails saying that they would do anything for Her but when She responds with something that goes against our laws they never respond.

IMO even Dom/Domme have limits ( and i am not trying to be rude here,so please dont think i am) if a sub/slave asked them to beat them to death or chop off a limb i beleave that most if not All would say "Ummm your nuts not gonna do it"

i think when people say they have no limit they really dont think of everything ( cause you never know what people are thinking) limits need to be talked about and rescpected and after awhile it might not longer become a limit.



justjill -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:20:44 AM)

People who say or are looking for "no limit" people are either insane, have little experience and imagination. At best of what you can hope for is what was already been written in this thread. A slave to have the same limits as mine.

One of the questions everyone asks is what limits do you have. I found that it was how someone answered that question was more important than the list they would give. You can sometimes tell who is lying about their experience and if they have ever thought things through.

In general though any "no limit" declaration should raise a red flag. You are probably dealing with a dreamer, faker or insane.



talmar -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:31:59 AM)

I agree. I think its a fantasy as well. Everyone has limits.
quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo


quote:

ORIGINAL: talmar

I have noticed on some profiles here that some Dom/Dommes are seeking no limit slaves. Are there any no limit slaves? Are there any slaves here who identify as such? Tops is that something you desire? I certainly have limits but I will be interested in the replies.


I consider such a idea to be based in fantasy not reality.

There will always be legal, social, moral, and physical limits. Even if these fade over years of being with a person the limits were still there at the beginning when the choices were being made.

Just think about it for a second. Chosing to pursue BDSM as way to achieve a relationship suggests quite strongly to me that there are limits to how things will go -- choice versus no choice, public forum to search versus dark alleyway, etc.

Some might call these preferences but I think they are also limits unless a person is basically doing absolutely everything to find a partner including illegal means.

I'm rambling again...



talmar -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:35:59 AM)

I agree.  Maybe its the nature of these sites (and I do like it here) but it seems people want to move so fast on here. I like to get to know a person fairly well before I play.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Halcyone

I've always read "no-limit slave" as "slave that comes to adopt the owner's limits". As a relationship progresses and the people involved become closer, it's natural for lines to blur. Sometimes, eventually, a slave or submissive becomes willing to set aside their limits for those chosen by their owner. But I feel it's silly to demand this immediately from someone you hardly know. It's difficult enough to manage with someone you've known for awhile and trust.



talmar -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:38:07 AM)

LOL.  That is cool.  [:D]
quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress


I get a dozen contacts a month from men who claim to not have limits. I write back telling them that is just great.. I have a neighbor who needs to have his kneecaps broken. And after he does that, I tell him I'll have him rob a bank. I sometimes go into sacrificing goats and such. Strange, but I don't hear back from most of them again.





serendipity -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:55:03 AM)

i think many may take the term a little too literally....... all human being have limits of some kind or another, however i believe that those who have knowledge of this may use the term loosely and would think that others understand what that means. i know myself to be a slave, but i would never say that i do not have some type of limits, but then i try to say what i mean and mean what i say......... not everyone is so literal when writing though. when i get letters from people i explain to them the need to actually mean what you say and to really be aware of the comments they are making as there are many who are predators and will take advantage of such foolish commments on the whole. with that said though, those who are serious about the lifestyle do their best to let others who are less knowledgable know what they are saying and do not criticize or make fun of them........ as to those who are aware, my personal believe is that to say "i have no limits" means within the confines of my relationship with the person with whom i am involved.



Mercnbeth -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:57:08 AM)

Soon after the movie first came out it was my fantasy to recreate the chainsaw shower scene from "Scarface". You know the one, where Pacino and his partner go into the hotel room and try to make a deal with the Colombians. The Columbian in charge puts the partner in the shower and cuts off his leg with the chainsaw, cleverly masking the sound of the chainsaw by turning up the sound on the TV. Thinking about that scene, maybe that Miami hotel should have been referenced when we were posting about thin walls in hotels?

Anyway what better application and use to test a self proclaimed "no limits" slave? However, all my attempts have been failures! (There's that word again!) Right after cranking up my Poulin (PRO 2375 'wild thing' with the 18" saw "starts first pull EVERY TIME!"; avoiding the problem experienced by the Colombians using that cheap chainsaw.) the bitch faints. What a poser, fake, and wannabe huh?

I've said that a more appropriate and descriptive label for the self proclaimed would be "single use" slaves. Not much remains, or is in condition for any other practical use, after the initial experience.



meatcleaver -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 11:57:42 AM)

I was talking to a no limits sub who I met at a fetish fair and she meant by no limits, she hadn't been taken to her limits yet and didn't know what precisely her limits were. She said she had several good doms but they had backed off for fearing going too far. I was eager to give her a go but geography was against us even though I was willing to travel. Realistically I couldn't travel often enough and put in the time that taking someone to such obvious extremes she was talking about required. How truthful she was being, of course I've no idea but she certainly came across as being straight.



amayos -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 12:17:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: talmar

I have noticed on some profiles here that some Dom/Dommes are seeking  no limit slaves.  Are there any no limit slaves? Are there any slaves here who identify as such? Tops is that something you desire? I certainly have limits but I will be interested in the replies.


I believe openly stating in your profile that your are searching for another with "no limits" is unwise and insulting to those who do live this way. Such a bland and casual reference to an act of human devotion that is so profound immediately discounts the emotional and psychological tethers necessary to achieve such a state of mind. Having a slave who is so loving as to do anything for you can be achieved, but those who expect this immediately in opening negotiation and without forming such intimate bonds are either very unwise, pathological or more than just a little off course in untested theory.

Those who would suffer anything for their owners know this is true in their heart, but unspeakable ordeals of pain and outrageous demonstrations of loyalty should not be made into just another hollow fetish or some psychotic BDSM pissing contest of how "real" you are.



swellslave -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 12:26:34 PM)

Do You not think that it is possible for there to be a "no-limit/single-use" slave????  Is it not possible for a slave to want to demonstrate the ultimate devotion? Is it not possible for a slave to be filled with desire about how it will develop? i can assure You (once anyway) that the definition being sought might not always be full of nuance and stipulations.



MoRsSweetOne -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 12:26:46 PM)

hello [:)]

i would think not from my own experience, but subs/slaves that have 'no limits' have probably built up to those limits and beyond over time and experience. Personally i would like to trust in the person first and once the trust is established then a good Dom/Domme will know how far to take you, they will know from body language and from past scenes when to push your limits a little further than the last time. 'No limits' is not for a beginner, it is gradually built up...Thats my view ...[8D]

Hugs
lisa xxx



ownedgirlie -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 12:28:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amayos
Those who would suffer anything for their owners know this is true in their heart, but unspeakable ordeals of pain and outrageous demonstrations of loyalty should not be made into just another hollow fetish or some psychotic BDSM pissing contest of how "real" you are.


Thank you for that.

Those who advertise themselves to anyone as a "no limit" slave, take me now...blah blah...don't know what they're talking about and are likely not living in reality.  i have no limits to my Master, other than what He has stated them to be.  But i did not start out that way.  To be in such a state requires intense trust, hard work and...well exactly what Amayos said.  - unspeakable ordeals of pain. Getting to this place did not come easily.  Nor does it cease to be a struggle.



mnottertail -> RE: No limit slaves (3/27/2006 12:35:03 PM)

As I pen this missive from Attica, after violating mnottertail's account......I can understand the term of 'no limits' in  a way.  I will probably have to kill somebody today, because they want something I have or don't have....... but some days you wanna take a day off from the daily grind.......know what I mean?

LOL,
Be'nahd  



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