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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Because he has divided the world into three types of people. Women, nice guys, and asshole males. As if being a "woman" is the only distinctive trait possessed by women, and it is up to the "nice males" and the "asshole males" to compete for this commodity known as "womankind." How can anyone hold such a mentality and still get confused when nobody sees them as being every woman's dream?

Basically what has happened is that he did not get a woman, as a "reward" for all his hard work pretending to be a decent person (aka nice guy).

He has become one of those people who think that women must be attracted to assholes because they got dumped once or twice. Who hasn't? People like this need to stop seeing each individual as representing the whole of their sex. When a woman dumps you, this is not a mass rejection by all women. There is such thing as "individual circumstance," which means that people get together, people break up, and the who/what/why is going to vary. Maybe it just didn't work out, and it will with another person. Maybe not. Maybe her reasons were valid, and it's time for some self-examination. In any case, a breakup or two doesn't say jack shit about what "women," as a whole, think.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Nah. . . that is just the "Wahhhhh!  Pity me, I was/am a geek.  It was sooooo bad, you all just cannot understand.  Let me play the victim card instead of getting on with my life." 

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ORIGINAL: Level

Now, LA, keep in mind that I'm still usually right, even without statistics.

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

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Take note LadyAngelika. This is a great example of those who try to answer for me with a half-assed attempt at an insult. They don't get it and never will.

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

right! I forgot number 4, actually being a bitch. And I do think there is a difference, but only slightly, between bitches and assholes.

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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

The part which warranted my comment of "interesting" is over the fact that the Op clearly stated that he does not care what anyone's opinion of him. Unfortunately that is a statement which I find impossible to believe, Human nature being what it is; we all care about someone's opinion if us even if we consciously don't admit it. No matter how hard we come across as cold hearted, assholes, insensitive son of a bitches, or whatever: deep down there is a part of us that cares and needs that validation.

Seems to me that just because a person grew up identifying as a geek does not equate to being an asshole in adulthood.....my perception is that being an asshole is a learned behavioral trait that a person could change if they seriously wanted to. It has been my experience that many people who adopt that type of attitude do so as a facade to hide who they actually are inside. I could be very well wrong on this yet that is how I perceive this.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
I've enjoyed this part of the discussion (LA, LaT, and yourself) because I am scratching my head about the same thing.  You've chosen to be an asshole as you term it, based mostly on past experiences, and slightly on having grown up a geek (in respect that you don't care about other people's opinions).  You seem fixed on this path, but I don't see the payback. 

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
For example, you could meet, or may have already met someone who's a 95% match, but the greeting you gave them turned them off.  It's almost like your ideal match will tolerate any and all asshole behavior from you.  What would a woman look forward to in such a relationship?  Would these traits overcome being on the receiving end of perpetual assholery?

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: Level

Now, LA, keep in mind that I'm still usually right, even without statistics.

I think I have techniques to make you admit when you are wrong ;-)

- LA

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

right! I forgot number 4, actually being a bitch. And I do think there is a difference, but only slightly, between bitches and assholes.

Yes, assholes have outies and bitches have innies. ;-)

- LA

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

right! I forgot number 4, actually being a bitch. And I do think there is a difference, but only slightly, between bitches and assholes.

Yes, assholes have outies and bitches have innies. ;-)

- LA

I guess I am a bitch then :)

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

right! I forgot number 4, actually being a bitch. And I do think there is a difference, but only slightly, between bitches and assholes.

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ORIGINAL: Level
If I understood (and right now, it highly possible I did NOT), Loki is saying that because he was a geek in school, that lead him to things happening, that made him decide to no longer care about how others thought of him. This, in turn, led to him behaving in ways that society, in general, may consider assholish.

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ORIGINAL: Level

I hate much of academia. Doesn't mean they're wrong, they just seem hell bent of speaking mumbo jumbo.

What was she getting at, and how does it apply to Loki?

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I could introduce you to a few who are bitches and proud of it ;-)

- LA

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I guess I am a bitch then :)

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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

LA, I think when a woman says she is a bitch, it can mean a few things.

1. She thinks she has to be that way to get through life
2. She is kidding.
3. She thinks that men like women who are bitches.

Or, it could mean she is a bitch.

Maybe a thread on the difference, if any, of assholes and bitches?

Or not. [X(]

right! I forgot number 4, actually being a bitch. And I do think there is a difference, but only slightly, between bitches and assholes.

Yes, assholes have outies and bitches have innies. ;-)

- LA

I guess I am a bitch then :)

Food for thought.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Neither gender has a monopoly on manipulation, lies and self-absorbtion. What Loki dosen't realize is that because he IS so emotionally screwed up, he WILL eventually attract emotionally screwed up mates - the kind that will take advantage of him and fuck him over.

He is SO invested in his own rationalizations that he feels compelled to tell us why we, and millions of women out there, are *wrong* about males in particular.

He takes ONE perspective and some how warps it into some sweeping assertion that it is intended to represent all women's opinions. 

And why, WHY this insane, vein-popping determination that it's impossible, IMPOSSIBLE that a female who actually has a life and two firing brain cells to rub together would POSSIBLY have anything pointedly critical to say about males?

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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I guess I am a bitch then :)

Not in my books. ;-)

- LA