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How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 7:22:51 PM   
stella41b


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Status: offline 		Yesterday I was talking with my neighbour Roy who was upset that the local kids (teenage boys) kept coming and kicking each others' balls near his kitchen window. When he came out to 'sort them out' one of the youths pulled out a cellphone and threatened to call the police. This incensed Roy, who is older, in his sixties, born and bred in South London, and we had a conversation on how things had changed.

Which indeed they have. I can always remember that specific way my parents had of communicating with me.

I'd say something like, 'Can I go out and play on my bike?'

'WHAT? BIKE? I'LL GIVE YOU BIKE!!' (But I've got a bike)

Or it'd be something like 'There's a concert in town tonight, and do you mind..?'

'WHAT? CONCERT? I'LL CONCERT YOU ROUND THE EAR'OLE!!'

Or my father would ask 'Do you want a good hiding?' What if I'd have turned round one day and said 'Yes please.'?

Things were different back then. I'd remember getting up for school. 'You're late for school!' Wallop! Wallop!

Then when you're on your way to school there'd be the kids from the other school nearby. 'Why look who it is..' Wallop! Wallop!

Then when you get to school there'd be a teacher at the entrance. 'You're late! Get to your class immediately.' Wallop!

You'd be standing there in assembly, singing something like 'All things bright and beautiful' and you'd shuffle your feet or scratch your nose and out of nowhere there'd be a teacher 'Stop fidgetting!' Wallop!

Then you'd be in a lesson and you'd have to hand in your homework. And your homework just had to be that sheet of paper which fell out into the mud when you got attacked on your way to school. 'What is this?' the teacher would demand.  Wallop!

Then it'd get to dinner time and you'd be there in the queue with everyone else all pushing and shoving, and there'd be a dinner lady with a big ladle yelling 'Be quiet!' Whack! Whack!

It wasn't just me, it happened to everyone. It was the sort of district and school where the English teacher would ask 'What comes at the end of a sentence?' Some kid would call out 'My Dad gets parole and he comes home.' And we'd all laugh and the teacher would be there. Wallop! Wallop!

You'd be on your way home from school, and there'd be the kids from the nearby estate. 'Why look who it is..' Wallop! Wallop!

You'd get home and your mother would say 'Where've you been? Have you been fighting again?' Wallop! Wallop!

'Just wait till your father gets home.'

And he did. And he'd say 'What have you been told about behaving yourself?' Wallop! Wallop!

And people wonder why I turned out to be a submissive.

How have things since changed you were younger? Anything you remember or miss? Anything similar to the above?

Or would you have preferred to be a teenager nowadays?


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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 7:26:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I miss when Polly Pockets could actually fit in your pocket. Granted I didn't play with them while I was a teen but hey...

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 7:39:25 PM   
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Yesterday I was talking with my neighbour Roy who was upset that the local kids (teenage boys) kept coming and kicking each others' balls near his kitchen window.


I understand where Roy is coming from. I hate it when teenage boys kick each other's balls in front of my window. I love it, however, when the teenage girls spank each other's bottoms in front of my window.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 7:48:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't get walloped as often as you did it seems but it does seem that kids are more pampered/protected than we were in my day. When I was twelve I could say something to my mother like:

Bye! Me and Frankie are going to test those wings we welded to my bike by jumping off the gorge."

To which she would respond:

"Be back in time for dinner."

Today, some school districts don't allow moneybars or dodge ball because the little dalings might get hurt.

As for cell phones, good God am I glad we didn't have those growing up. Imagine having your parents being able to contact you at any time! How the hell could you party or find time to get laid?

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 8:06:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		OP you are so right... things have changed... Parents use to have control, now the media, facebook and myspace control the kids... My sub/hubby has a 16 yr old that is out of control and so disrespectful... that I simply can't comprehend it...

Because like you, I faced an ass whopping for disrespect.... My kids however would NEVER disrespect Me.... all I have to do, is give them a swift look and they correct their behaviors...

Kids have too much damn power in modern society and adults are too afraid to parent...

Not Me... 

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 8:50:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stella41b
Yesterday I was talking with my neighbour Roy who was upset that the local kids (teenage boys) kept coming and kicking each others' balls near his kitchen window.



Man, sounds like a quite painful game, if you ask me.

Or kinky.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 11:00:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most of us can remember the "good old days". Though whether the "good old days" ever actually existed I not so sure.

Kids have always been regarded as a pain in the arse since the dawn of time. They frequently get up to some sort of mischief. Grown-ups aren't always much better.

I can't really comment about what went on between your neighbour Roy and the local kids (teenage boys). After all, I wasn't there.

That said, I've dealt with similar situations. Having a bit of tact generally works, "look lads, please... " etc. etc. generally results in "okay mister" and off they go to play elsewhere.

There's an art to handling kids and people in general. It's called respect. Go in all guns blazing and people are likely to return fire.



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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/13/2010 11:03:24 PM   
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quote:

How have things since changed you were younger? Anything you remember or miss? Anything similar to the above?

Or would you have preferred to be a teenager nowadays?


I was raised after the era of free love and hippie dippy liberalness. My mother quit spanking when she got to me, I was her last one. I can count on one hand how many "whacks" I got.. my mom said it was because I just didn't need 'em as much as the others did, but I just think she got soft on us...

No one was allowed to beat us at school, that stopped right before I got there too.

But you know what, kids have usually respected me when I ask things of them. But then again, I respect them first... just me, etc.


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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 12:10:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Things have changed.

It used to be the worst thing on the planet was to be grounded, without going outside.

Now, the worst punishment is to take the computer away.


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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 12:12:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		not so, ladypact. the worst punishment is to take away their computer AND their ipod or other internet connecting phone device.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 5:35:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well sitting and watching the opening of the Olympics in Vancouver and reading this tread i can't really get around the fact that the young people today seems to shy away from sports activities and the activities they they do have is very superfiscial today. Membership of the sports clubs in my country have literally halved since my youth and even worse it is for things like the scout movement. Pity as all those things i really remember for the best moments of my youth.
It was all those smiling happy young faces in Vancouver which reminded me that not all young people waste their time in front of a PC or a TV. I am sure those is going to remember this moment forever.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:16:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok-- he needs to belllow out-  "MOVE ON!"  "This is a residential area" "private property"  !!!

Take the horse play away from my house.

I have even told em there is a curfew.   That I would have a talk with the police chief if need be.

(the curfew line works because no one really knows up to date rules on what it is,LOL)

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:23:20 AM   
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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:38:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, some years ago, I was doing some grocery shopping and passed the candy isle.  There sat a UM, looked to be maybe 5 or 6, sitting on the floor just opening bags of candy(usually to a great deal of mess) and eating maybe one or two, and throwing the rest down on the floor.  The mother, standing over the male UM, tears in her eyes, PLEADING with the UM.   "PLEASE stop that, Please come with me, please, please, please, please."

The um just looks up, at which the mother shrinks back, and screams "SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU STUPID BITCH CUNT!"  and continues to open bags of candy.  I had to walk away before grabbing him and turning him over my knee and getting myself into bigger trouble than the kid already was, who obviously didn't care about being in trouble.

Just one more reason I don't want any UM's of my own.


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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:40:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wulfgarw

Yeah, some years ago, I was doing some grocery shopping and passed the candy isle.  There sat a UM, looked to be maybe 5 or 6, sitting on the floor just opening bags of candy(usually to a great deal of mess) and eating maybe one or two, and throwing the rest down on the floor.  The mother, standing over the male UM, tears in her eyes, PLEADING with the UM.   "PLEASE stop that, Please come with me, please, please, please, please."

The um just looks up, at which the mother shrinks back, and screams "SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU STUPID BITCH CUNT!"  and continues to open bags of candy.  I had to walk away before grabbing him and turning him over my knee and getting myself into bigger trouble than the kid already was, who obviously didn't care about being in trouble.

Just one more reason I don't want any UM's of my own.




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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:44:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates.

Nothing has changed.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 7:50:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates.

Nothing has changed.


For once we agree


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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 8:02:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with the Heretic that nothing has changed. There were out of control kids when I was a child and there are some now. Same for the well behaved kids. I am a firm believer that in most cases, badly behaved children are primarily the parent's doing (or lack of doing). I say most as there are exceptions to the rule.

My parents never used corporal punishment, neither did any other authority figure in my life. (Sidenote: Stella you say that the wallops might have made you submissive but I actually was fascinated by the idea of corporal punishment having never experienced it but having heard from friends about it).

My parents had incredibly high standards when it came to our behaviour. We got grounded and lost priveledges when we acted out of line. But when we were children usually one look from my father (and sometimes mother) would get us right back in line. I know I have that look because my friends kids actually listen to me better than they do their own parents. They don't negotiate with me at all and they just adore me because I set boundaries and am consistent.

When I was a teen, I became quite rebellious. My father didn't deal with it so well but my mother had a great approach. She told me that it was normal to want to push boundaries but to always think before acting and to think of the short and long term consequences of my actions. I think I didn't get in one tenth of the trouble that my friends did because my parents instilled a strong moral compass in me.

- LA

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 8:37:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed with Heretic-

I was a Scoutmaster for many years, and saw how the boys were exactly the same as we were when we were their age. I would overhear them telling the same jokes, asking the same questions, doing the same stupid stunts we did did at their age.

It is the central conceit of every age that this generation is somehow unique, special, different either for better or worse than any that came before.

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RE: How things have changed.. - 2/14/2010 8:40:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok.  This is starting to get kinda creepy...

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