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Brain -> Fox News Boycott responses (2/13/2010 10:10:17 PM)

I wonder if these boycotts will accomplish anything. I don’t see Fox News changing but these companies sales might improve.

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You are encouraged to boycott, not only Fox News Channel, but Fox News sponsors and companies that air Fox News in their places of business. Send the message that you will not be persuaded by biased reporting and propaganda by not supporting those who support this behavior. Please feel free to use the sample letter to contact companies that support FNC.

It is not our place to dictate which main stream media outlet provides the most accurate and/or unbiased representation of current events. The media, in its vast majority, can and will make errors from time to time and various opinionated personalities may have a particular partisan slant to their editorials. That is for someone else to discuss on another web site.

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juliaoceania -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/13/2010 10:49:23 PM)

I've always boycotted them... nothing will change in Julia's world




Termyn8or -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/13/2010 11:22:19 PM)

Boycott who ?

T




Brain -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 12:58:18 AM)

Fox News.




Termyn8or -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 1:14:33 AM)

I've seen no Fox news, what does it look like ?

T




StrangerThan -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 3:07:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

I wonder if these boycotts will accomplish anything. I don’t see Fox News changing but these companies sales might improve.

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You are encouraged to boycott, not only Fox News Channel, but Fox News sponsors and companies that air Fox News in their places of business. Send the message that you will not be persuaded by biased reporting and propaganda by not supporting those who support this behavior. Please feel free to use the sample letter to contact companies that support FNC.

It is not our place to dictate which main stream media outlet provides the most accurate and/or unbiased representation of current events. The media, in its vast majority, can and will make errors from time to time and various opinionated personalities may have a particular partisan slant to their editorials. That is for someone else to discuss on another web site.

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We resolve to provide factual evidence that FNC’s “fair and balanced” reporting is neither fair, nor balanced.

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Sucks don't it?


25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 495 | CNN: 130 | MSNBC: 113 | HLN: 162

Prime: FNC: 773 | CNN: 170 | MSNBC: 200 | HLN: 183   5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p: FNC Beck: Baier: Shep: O'Reilly: Hannity: Greta: O'Reilly:   692 574 617 1128 721 467 500 CNN Blitzer: Blitzer: Blitzer: Brown: King: Cooper: Cooper:   160 129 141 154 199 157 110 MSNBC Matthews: EdShow: Matthews: Olbermann: Maddow: Olbermann: Maddow:   118 73 102 246 175 178 133 HLN Prime: Prime: Issues: Grace: Behar: Grace: Showbiz:   132 118 151 274 131 154 106

Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.The Scoreboard: Wednesday, Feb. 10 By Kevin Allocca on Feb 11, 2010 04:43 PM 25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 470 | CNN: 162 | MSNBC: 115 | HLN: 176

Prime: FNC: 829 | CNN: 195 | MSNBC: 241 | HLN: 247   5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p: FNC Beck: Baier: Shep: O'Reilly: Hannity: Greta: O'Reilly:   777 590 636 1055 790 628 553 CNN Blitzer: Blitzer: Blitzer: Brown: King: Cooper: Cooper:   140 132 158 217 174 194 183 MSNBC Matthews: EdShow: Matthews: Olbermann: Maddow: Olbermann: Maddow:   70 111 153 299 242 183 132 HLN Prime: Prime: Issues: Grace: Behar: Grace: Showbiz:   89 97 182 346 193 218 187

Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.The Scoreboard: Tuesday, Feb. 9 By Kevin Allocca on Feb 10, 2010 05:00 PM 25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 466 | CNN: 144 | MSNBC: 110 | HLN: 143

Prime: FNC: 759 | CNN: 242 | MSNBC: 219 | HLN: 203   5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p: FNC Beck: Baier: Shep: O'Reilly: Hannity: Greta: O'Reilly:   828 657 563 980 754 537 487 CNN Blitzer: Blitzer: Blitzer: Brown: King: Cooper: Cooper:   137 196 215 192 326 209 130 MSNBC Matthews: Edshow: Matthews: Olbermann: Maddow: Olbermann: Maddow:   93 127 175 262 193 202 108 HLN Prime: Prime: Issues: Grace: Behar: Grace: Showbiz:   66 88 171 213 204 203 215
The Scoreboard: Monday, Feb. 8 By Kevin Allocca on Feb 09, 2010 06:08 PM 25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 455 | CNN: 144 | MSNBC: 116 | HLN: 155

Prime: FNC: 792 | CNN: 181 | MSNBC: 241 | HLN: 185   5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p: FNC Beck: Baier: Shep: O'Reilly: Hannity: Greta: O'Reilly:   835 629 559 1154 734 478 448 CNN Blitzer: Blitzer: Blitzer: Brown: King: Cooper: Cooper:   89 109 158 141 178 225 184 MSNBC Matthews: EdShow: Matthews: Olbermann: Maddow: Olbermann: Maddow:   46 112 205 302 230 181 157 HLN Prime: Prime: Issues: Grace: Behar: Grace: Showbiz:   119 97 129 245 167 155 143




eyesopened -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 4:53:27 AM)

Well the problem is Fox News only broadcasts news during the time slots to nearly guarantee no one will be watching.  All their other programming is Opinion and Commentary where they have no obligation to be "fair and balanced".  Then they supposedly compete with actual news stations.  Their ratings should be measured against other Opinion channels like Trinity Broadcasting. 




DomImus -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 5:35:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain
I wonder if these boycotts will accomplish anything.


They'll accomplish decreased sales for the companies that bolt. If you are trailing in the ratings and advertisers are bailing that's a problem. If you are leading in the ratings and advertisers bail it makes the advertiser look stupid.

quote:

I don’t see Fox News changing but these companies sales might improve.


Yes, that's generally what happens when you move your advertising dollars to lower rated programming. You not only cut civics class but you slept through economics class.






RacerJim -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 5:44:47 AM)

Can't stand objective criticism of Obama and/or his policies from even one television network?  What a bunch of thin-skinned hypocritical losers...just like Obama.




EbonyWood -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 5:56:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Can't stand objective criticism of Obama and/or his policies from even one television network?  What a bunch of thin-skinned hypocritical losers...just like Obama.


Thread derailment.
 
Subject is Fox News. Objectivity is off topic.




StrangerThan -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 6:26:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: eyesopened

Well the problem is Fox News only broadcasts news during the time slots to nearly guarantee no one will be watching.  All their other programming is Opinion and Commentary where they have no obligation to be "fair and balanced".  Then they supposedly compete with actual news stations.  Their ratings should be measured against other Opinion channels like Trinity Broadcasting. 


So their opinion and commentary beats the crap out of the other news? Just curious. Sounds like what you're saying. Either that or not many watch the mainstream news in the first place. The graph I posted however, does compare commentators as well. It just didn't come across well.  Most of Fox's beat their liberal counterparts by 4-5 to 1.

I've never seen a fox news broadcast. Actually, I don't watch any news. The world is a much simpler and better place without it most of the time. And most of what I get when it comes to Rush, Beck, the others, I get here.

I did listen to Rush when Scott Brown won though lol.

The statistics are from Neilsen.

I keep waiting for the boycott wars, when one says, ok let's boycott, and other says, fine, we'll boycott too - if for no other reason than to know that in several company boardrooms across America, sweat will be sliding down the ass cracks of dip weeds trying to figure out which segment of the American population to pat on the head and say, ok, ok, stop crying. Daddy corp will fix it for you.






pahunkboy -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 7:34:56 AM)

this is where youtube is

KING!




LadyEllen -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 7:39:36 AM)

Most of Fox's beat their liberal counterparts by 4-5 to 1

And therein lies the issue really. OK we have to accept there will always be editorial bias driven by editors themselves or owners, but to be able to so clearly define news outlets in this way illustrates a problem. The news is the news - all it requires is the who, what, where, when and why and it ought not to be too different across the whole media because the facts are the facts. Opinion meanwhile - the interpretation of what the facts mean or indicate is another matter - here is where editorial bias should be found if anywhere and to which it ought to be restricted. It is in the confusion of facts with opinion that the US media fails on every occasion I have observed, with Fox being the greater contributor to the total than any other.

E




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 7:47:09 AM)

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If you are leading in the ratings and advertisers bail it makes the advertiser look stupid.


That's pretty silly analysis. It presumes no other place to advertise, and it ignores that companies don't want to risk offending their target customers.

Fox News will continue on just fine, of course. There's a demographic that likes to stare in the mirror and call it news.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:18:51 AM)

The real name should be FOX Commentary, we say whatever we want true or false.  There is very very little actual news on FOX News.  The people who watch need to be pandered to.  They need their view validated for some reason.  FOX News make a healthy profit providing what those people need.  That's fine, but stop trying to pretend it's news. 

One of the funniest things I ever saw was Glenn Beck on the View.  Now before you get started on that tangent, it doesn't matter if you like Whoopie, Barbara, or any of them.  Let's not get into the ignore the message because you don't like the messenger.  Beck wrote this whole thing on his blog about some chance meeting he had with Barbara Walters and Whoopi and the disparaging way he was treated because of his political views.  The question to him was why did he write that since it was not at all what happened.  After stuttering and stammering he finally admitted that , "No, what he wrote was not what happened at all".  He did skillfully avoid ever answering why he wrote the fabrication.  Here is the even more important part.  When Barbara asked him how did he confirm his facts, verify his sources and his stories, he stuttered and stammered some more and finally came up with, "I don't, I am not a journalist, I just comment on things".

Call it lies, fabrications, embellishments, whatever you want.  The fact is the whole group on FOX News says whatever they think their audience wants to hear true or not.  The reason it is so popular is for some insane reason those on the far right seem to like being led around like sheep.  They feel the need for that group validation.  The reason the ones on the left don't have the same audience has more to do with their would be viewers working more as individuals.  Trying to get them agree on anything and work together as a group is a major task. 




StrangerThan -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:31:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

If you are leading in the ratings and advertisers bail it makes the advertiser look stupid.


That's pretty silly analysis. It presumes no other place to advertise, and it ignores that companies don't want to risk offending their target customers.

Fox News will continue on just fine, of course. There's a demographic that likes to stare in the mirror and call it news.


I think there is a demographic to whom it is news. Like I said, I don't watch news programs. At least not voluntarily. I do however, frequent airports, and most of them have CNN running constantly on the monitors where you sit awaiting your flight. Now I know, I don't have to watch it then either, but I can still hear it unless I make an effort to get somewhere in the middle of a concourse. But, I'm not that anti-news. If its put in front of me and I have time to waste, I'm like anyone else, I'll waste it on whatever is close.

CNN has cleaned up its act somewhat, but during the early days of the tea party things, they were quite antagonistic towards them. I watched several clips, again, sitting in one airport or another, where the reporter was clearly either attempting to directly refute comments, or paint a picture of irrelevancy. I know that Chris Matthews (NBC? like I said, I don't watch them) has relegated whatever news network he works for as totally, and completely slanted. CBS suffered with Dan Rather. I watched Rather's coverage of the Kerry-Bush race, and while I voted for Kerry, wanted him to win, it was clearly obvious that Rather did too. He was grasping at every democratic straw he could find or invent during that broadcast. From there he led CBS down a dismal road ripe with slanted opinion masquerading as news.

Again, from the airport perspective, CNN seems fairly light on Obama, and fairly spiteful towards conservative pundits.

I don't think there's any question why Fox leads the ratings when the other main outlets have clearly demonstrated their own bias. My brother started watching fox during Bush's administration.When I asked him why, his response was that it was the only place he could see good things happening over there as well as the bad. News outlets don't have to be pointedly biased to be biased. They can do that simply by the stories they choose to cover. Yahoo for example, kept a running death count of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan during most of Bush's years as daily coverage. Coverage that has... disappeared.

That is reporting the news. When that is the only news you report however, you slant the viewer or reader the way you want them to go without uttering one biased word. I used to work as a reporter. I know how it works.

Having watched the early and clearly combative coverage of tea bag events from CNN, the umm..  rant by their editor over we report the news we don't advertise it, just didn't cut much mustard.

There is bias in most outlets. Haven't listened to NPR in a while either, but when I did, it was there too. The telling feature to me in terms of the mindset of the country is where most of them look for their bias.

And it clearly is not with mainstream media.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:39:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

  The people who watch need to be pandered to.  They need their view validated for some reason. 


Once again, total bullshit. You cant "pander" to less than 50% of your audience for long. If there is any profit in pandering, its the outlets that are more heavily Democrat...and they do.

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Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:41:31 AM)

In BOTH instances, all of this only considers people who gather news by watching television.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:49:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

In BOTH instances, all of this only considers people who gather news by watching television.





Uhhh, yes, it is a poll about people who regularly watch TV news, which includes Fox's audience, an outlet claimed to pander only to those who's beliefs they support. Whats your point?




Sanity -> RE: Fox News Boycott responses (2/14/2010 8:53:03 AM)


Its a desperate and an insecure mindset which feels the need to shut down opposition voices, isn't it.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

I wonder if these boycotts will accomplish anything. I don’t see Fox News changing but these companies sales might improve.

Honda is 100th Sponsor to Leave Glenn Beck / Fox News

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You are encouraged to boycott, not only Fox News Channel, but Fox News sponsors and companies that air Fox News in their places of business. Send the message that you will not be persuaded by biased reporting and propaganda by not supporting those who support this behavior. Please feel free to use the sample letter to contact companies that support FNC.

It is not our place to dictate which main stream media outlet provides the most accurate and/or unbiased representation of current events. The media, in its vast majority, can and will make errors from time to time and various opinionated personalities may have a particular partisan slant to their editorials. That is for someone else to discuss on another web site.

FoxNewsBoycott.com Mission:

We resolve to provide factual evidence that FNC’s “fair and balanced” reporting is neither fair, nor balanced.

Support FoxNewsBoycott.com:
Link To FNB – If you have a web site, blog, or MySpace or Facebook account, there are a variety of methods available for you to link back to FoxNewsBoycott.com.

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RSS Feed – Subscribe to our RSS feed(s) and receive updates from FoxNewsBoycott.com via email or in a feed reader. If you have a web site or blog, you can integrate our feed for your visitors.

Books – A variety of books about Fox News and various personalities are provided for your enjoyment. A small percentage of each sale goes back to FoxNewsBoycott.com.

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