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I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 12:52:24 AM   
Johmey


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As a Dominant, I know you know what you like best of your slave/sub! Please do share what you like most out of your toy(s) :)
I aim to be a spectacular sub, and while I am very creative with how I pamper and serve, I could still listen to what someone with much more experience has to say and learn accordingly. I am talking about the small stuff too! Creative ideas? Things to consider? Tips? Advice? What makes a great slave????????

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 12:59:18 AM   
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While not a dominant, perhaps you would be best off determining how you want to serve. While that may seem like topping from the bottom, if you figure out where your interests are you can strengthen your talents so that you have more to offer the dominant who is interested in receiving what you are most interested in providing.

For example, if you are really into pampering, you can take some massage classes. Or take a comostology class so that you can do manicures and pedicures. As a woman, I'd love someone who could do my fake nails for free!

If you are particularly into house service, I'd suggest commiting to heart cleaning tips and tricks. Good stain removers and maybe learn how to sew and/or reupholster furniture.

Hopeless this helps!

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 2:07:10 AM   
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That depends on if the Dominate is a Male or Female. I can only speak from the male point of view. The FemDom point of view might be different. Also the best answer to your question is simply to ask your Dom. Assuming you have no Dom then that wont help. So I'll give you My two cents.

First you say you want to be a good slave. In My dictionary a slave is an adult. You should firstly be a great adult. Well balanced in all aspects of your character and personality. Secondly, a good slave is an obedient slave. You must clearly know what is expected of you and be prepared to carry it out. Thirdly, when you fail, you must obediently accept, learn and be grateful for your punishment. If you could acheive this any Master would be proud to own you and probably many Mistresses.

But then there are Dominates who do not want pride in their slave. They have contempt for your being in the same universe as they are. I cant help you there.

Assuming you are not a very good adult. You never really grew up. Time passed you by. Probably through no faullt of your own. You are a special needs case. You need a Dom who can grow you down then grow you back up again. You're not going to do it on your own, with tharapy or happy pills. You will need a extra special Dom. One who is self-sacrificing. A Daddy/Mommy Dom.

Oh yeah, getting a Dom in cyberspace you should have very good writing skills. That's is almost indespensible especially with the Women.

Hope this helps.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 6:00:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Johmey

As a Dominant, I know you know what you like best of your slave/sub! Please do share what you like most out of your toy(s) :)
I aim to be a spectacular sub, and while I am very creative with how I pamper and serve, I could still listen to what someone with much more experience has to say and learn accordingly. I am talking about the small stuff too! Creative ideas? Things to consider? Tips? Advice? What makes a great slave????????


You know, of course, the answer to these questions are going to be relative to the person/s you choose to involve yourself with...everyone has different wants/expectations.

That being said, I do think there are ways you can improve your service abilities, if that's a direction you want to go.  This thread  http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2798445 is one of my favorites for such ideas...lots of amazing links. 

I'm not sure what you mean by "a great slave" but I would suggest you focus on becoming a great person who has talents/abilities/skills they can bring to any relationship dynamic paired with integrity, intellegence, character and discernment.

Enjoy your homework

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 6:04:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CarrieO

You know, of course, the answer to these questions are going to be relative to the person/s you choose to involve yourself with...everyone has different wants/expectations.



Yep.


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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 6:49:39 AM   
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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:16:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Johmey

As a Dominant, I know you know what you like best of your slave/sub! Please do share what you like most out of your toy(s) :)
<snip>
What makes a great slave????????



1.) Willing obedience.
 
2.) I gave you my best answer in your last thread, in the parting thoughts section of my post here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057699/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3065222


Johmey, being a good submissive or slave is about being a good partner. Just like in a vanilla relationship. Find someone with whom you are compatible in and out of the bedroom, whose needs and desires fit well with yours.

My advice in the thread I linked to above is much more about the big things, than the little things. I could give a shit if you can give a good massage, or if you're a good cook. I'm not saying those might not be big things to another dom, but those are skills that you can learn relatively easily, compared to the things I'm interested in: Are your finances in order? Are you well educated? Are you compassionate? Do you have good control over your thoughts, emotions and actions? How are your communication skills? Are you able to form, and nurture trusting relationships? Are you honorable and trustworthy? How do you handle difficulties and challenges, in your life?
What are your short, mid-range, and long-term goals for your career, your education, your primary relationship, your finances, and your life? What is your plan, for achieving them?

Those are the big things, for me. Fuck the little things. Anyone can learn how to make my tea, in a jiffy. Pay attention to the important things, and don't sweat the small stuff. Work on the things that are important to you, and when you find the domme who fits well with you regarding those, you can turn your attention to how she likes the little things done.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:24:46 AM   
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be more obedient?

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:32:34 AM   
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i have said it many, many times, and probably will say it many more times in my life to come:

"If you want to be Owned, be something worth Owning."

And being something worth Owning does not mean just knowing how to perfectly serve tea, or clean a toilet, or give a foot massage. What it means is that you must first focus on being a good person - your authentic self - with emotional maturity and responsibility for your actions, your physical and mental health, and your interactions with others.

And ultimately, it means taking your own personal responsibility for your submission as a slave and as Owned property to your Dom/me/Owner.

Your submission is your life's journey - no one else's. Yes, the fantasy about being "taken" as a slave is wonderful, and even more wonderful when you get to have that in real life with a wonderful Owner (like mine). But it still is just that - the fantasy. Your Owner facilitates and defines your slavery to him/her, but only you can internalize and be that slave.

The reality of slavery is that it begins inside of you, with your actualization as a slave, and the reality of your existence - which is a journey of your own self-exploration and development. Once you learn how to be aware of, and responsible for, your own mind-space as a slave, then you can focus on things like learning tea. But not the other way around.

i hope this helps.

edited because sometimes i can't type.

julie

< Message edited by UniqueRaven -- 2/14/2010 11:33:42 AM >


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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:36:22 AM   
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You think we're getting through to him? 

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:42:00 AM   
UniqueRaven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

You think we're getting through to him? 


i hope?

Perhaps we could just keep posting "ditto" again and again back and forth under each other's posts. Hee hee!

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 11:45:25 AM   
dreamerdreaming


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quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

i have said it many, many times, and probably will say it many more times in my life to come:

"If you want to be Owned, be something worth Owning."

And being something worth Owning does not mean just knowing how to perfectly serve tea, or clean a toilet, or give a foot massage. What it means is that you must first focus on being a good person - your authentic self - with emotional maturity and responsibility for your actions, your physical and mental health, and your interactions with others.

And ultimately, it means taking your own personal responsibility for your submission as a slave and as Owned property to your Dom/me/Owner.

Your submission is your life's journey - no one else's. Yes, the fantasy about being "taken" as a slave is wonderful, and even more wonderful when you get to have that in real life with a wonderful Owner (like mine). But it still is just that - the fantasy. Your Owner facilitates and defines your slavery to him/her, but only you can internalize and be that slave.

The reality of slavery is that it begins inside of you, with your actualization as a slave, and the reality of your existence - which is a journey of your own self-exploration and development. Once you learn how to be aware of, and responsible for, your own mind-space as a slave, then you can focus on things like learning tea. But not the other way around.

i hope this helps.

edited because sometimes i can't type.

julie


DITTO.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 12:03:39 PM   
UniqueRaven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

1.) Willing obedience.
 
2.) I gave you my best answer in your last thread, in the parting thoughts section of my post here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057699/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3065222


Johmey, being a good submissive or slave is about being a good partner. Just like in a vanilla relationship. Find someone with whom you are compatible in and out of the bedroom, whose needs and desires fit well with yours.

My advice in the thread I linked to above is much more about the big things, than the little things. I could give a shit if you can give a good massage, or if you're a good cook. I'm not saying those might not be big things to another dom, but those are skills that you can learn relatively easily, compared to the things I'm interested in: Are your finances in order? Are you well educated? Are you compassionate? Do you have good control over your thoughts, emotions and actions? How are your communication skills? Are you able to form, and nurture trusting relationships? Are you honorable and trustworthy? How do you handle difficulties and challenges, in your life?
What are your short, mid-range, and long-term goals for your career, your education, your primary relationship, your finances, and your life? What is your plan, for achieving them?

Those are the big things, for me. Fuck the little things. Anyone can learn how to make my tea, in a jiffy. Pay attention to the important things, and don't sweat the small stuff. Work on the things that are important to you, and when you find the domme who fits well with you regarding those, you can turn your attention to how she likes the little things done.


Ditto! Hee hee!

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 12:13:07 PM   
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I only read a few replies, and so far the advice given is all very good advice. Depending on who you want to serve Male or Female, will depend greatly on how to improve yourself.

As others have pointed out, work on yourself as being a great person but also focus on learning skills that the gender you seek will benefit from. It never hurts to learn how to give a massage, repair a car, home maintenance, and cook. Other people may want specific abilities in a sub/slave. Some may not care one way or the other provided you get along in core personality traits.

Either way, the more knowledge and positivity you possess, the more options you will have in finding an owner.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 4:20:39 PM   
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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 5:04:56 PM   
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Ask your dominant.

Some people like to have all their needs anticipated. They like looking up on a hot day and finding a glass of iced water at hand.

Others prefer to give orders, and want you to wait until they tell you if they want tea, water, soda etc.

Beyond that, pay attention. Then if you're told to fetch coffee, you'll already have learned one and a half teaspoons of sugar and a lot of milk.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 5:35:44 PM   
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Someone--I think it was Darcy & The.Dark--gave me some great advice on a similar question: learn skills that will make your partner's life easier or more fulfilling, like massage or cooking.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 5:41:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

quote:

ORIGINAL: Johmey

As a Dominant, I know you know what you like best of your slave/sub! Please do share what you like most out of your toy(s) :)
<snip>
What makes a great slave????????



1.) Willing obedience.
 
2.) I gave you my best answer in your last thread, in the parting thoughts section of my post here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057699/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3065222


Johmey, being a good submissive or slave is about being a good partner. Just like in a vanilla relationship. Find someone with whom you are compatible in and out of the bedroom, whose needs and desires fit well with yours.

My advice in the thread I linked to above is much more about the big things, than the little things. I could give a shit if you can give a good massage, or if you're a good cook. I'm not saying those might not be big things to another dom, but those are skills that you can learn relatively easily, compared to the things I'm interested in: Are your finances in order? Are you well educated? Are you compassionate? Do you have good control over your thoughts, emotions and actions? How are your communication skills? Are you able to form, and nurture trusting relationships? Are you honorable and trustworthy? How do you handle difficulties and challenges, in your life?
What are your short, mid-range, and long-term goals for your career, your education, your primary relationship, your finances, and your life? What is your plan, for achieving them?

Those are the big things, for me. Fuck the little things. Anyone can learn how to make my tea, in a jiffy. Pay attention to the important things, and don't sweat the small stuff. Work on the things that are important to you, and when you find the domme who fits well with you regarding those, you can turn your attention to how she likes the little things done.


Perfect post. I agree with every word. Too many people lose sight of the fact that there are people in a relationship that has to work on all levels, not just a sub and a Dom. I cannot compartmentalize these things, I am an amalgam of all parts of my desires, needs, wants, knowledge, and actions. Therefore if I am a good partner and have one, the sub/Dom thing will fall into place.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 7:45:19 PM   
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All I want is my sub to be the best person he can be. When he works to improve himself, he in turn strives to ensure he continues to be one whom I still want as mine.

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RE: I need ideas to become a better sub - 2/14/2010 8:11:50 PM   
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BEAR ! ! !
 
You goin' all domily on us ? ? ?  Say it isn't so ! ! !

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