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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The Louisiana Purchase......was it us holding a gun to Napoleans head?
The rest of your silly little list I will lead others to refute(though I will join with Ron in calling bullshit on WWII )
So now we have ignorance married to a little bit of knowledge.....and we wind up with you....an asshole sure of his illusions and willing to demonstrate his stupidity at the drop of a hat.
Hows that working for you?

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The Louisiana Purchase......was it us holding a gun to Napoleans head?
The rest of your silly little list I will lead others to refute(though I will join with Ron in calling bullshit on WWII )
So now we have ignorance married to a little bit of knowledge.....and we wind up with you....an asshole sure of his illusions and willing to demonstrate his stupidity at the drop of a hat.
Hows that working for you?

Quite right, Napolean even commented on the sale that "This accession of territory affirms forever the power of the United States, and I have given England a maritime rival who sooner or later will humble her pride."

This was a win win for both parties, France was able to get rid of some debt and make some money and the US doubled in size.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The Louisiana Purchase......was it us holding a gun to Napoleans head?
The rest of your silly little list I will lead others to refute(though I will join with Ron in calling bullshit on WWII )
So now we have ignorance married to a little bit of knowledge.....and we wind up with you....an asshole sure of his illusions and willing to demonstrate his stupidity at the drop of a hat.
Hows that working for you?

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Hey at least thompson is honest about it.

He is 100% in line with leftist heros like Zinn, Chmosky and Moore. All of whom are defended as geniuses by the left here.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Laissez le bon temps rouler.

Oops a day late. [;)]

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Hey at least thompson is honest about it.

He is 100% in line with leftist heros like Zinn, Chmosky and Moore. All of whom are defended as geniuses by the left here.

Oh the little puppy who post shit and when called on it is unable to defend it.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Sort of a simple minded pov....but considering the source probably the best you could come up with.
By the by, you do realise the Empire of Japan was involved in that little fracas....don't you?

If you have a point would you please make it?


Point of fact Clemenceau died in 1929....blaming him for WWII is a little much don't you think....and if you are going to blame the Treaty of Versailles(sp?)

You got that part right

...that sort of lets Roosevelt off the hook doesn't it

No...Roosevelt is on the hook because of his machinations with Churchill to involve us in the war and for his maneuvering Japan into Pearl Harbor.


......which way you going to go.
Further point of fact Wilson(the American President) was aghast at the imposition of reparations on Germany....so if blaming the treaty is the way you are going ...again American hands seem to be clean.
Yeah right
Now where exactly will you hang your hat?

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....the U.S of America like all countries has its black marks in its history...and I have no trouble discussing them.

So far you have

..but the U.S.A. has also moments of greatness in its short history.
Good deeds don't need a pimp.

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Sort of like looking in a mirror ,heh thompson

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Spain was incapable of holding the territory...hence the protectorate.Besides what part of Manifest Destiny do you not understand....should the new nation have been content to allow a European power to sit astride this continent?

Your belief in the rightness of "Manifest Destiny" substantiates my point. That the U.S. did not and does not respect the sovrignity of any country that is militarily weaker. In life that is called being a bully. You seem to approve so what is the purpos of this discussion. You think it is right to steal from those who cannot protect themself.


Was it not inevitable that this would be an American hemisphere....shall we apologise for fufilling our destiny.

"Our Destiny" quite the little imperalist aint you. So far it is not an "American Hemisphere"...There is still Canada and Mexico and all of those countries in South America not to mention the French holdings in North America.


If apologies are due I will reserve mine for the native peoples displaced in the fufillment of "manifest destiny".....I wil certainly not be apologising to any european power that in the proper course of events was shoved aside by an inevitable expansion of the nation.

No I don't expect an impearlist would.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Japan was manipulated into its attack of Dec 7th.

I guess you never heard of the AVG (American Volunteer Group) sometimes called the Flying Tigers.
Do you think the U.S. would be justified in a preemptory strike if North Korea stationed a hundred state of the art fighter jets in Tiajuana?


....were they also manipulated into their war of expansion on the Asian landmass?....manipulated into the Rape of Nanking?......manipulated into their annexing of Korea?...and the subsequent enslavement of millions?....including the sending to brothels of thousands of Korean woman as sex slaves?

If you have a point please make it.
That Japan was involved in an impearlistic war is the business of the U.S. for what constitutional reason?



Tell me thompson why is it that all other players on the world stage,save for the democracies,seem to be helpless victims merely swept along on histories tide,not responsible for their own actions but victims of the machinations of others?

Those are your words not mine


Your arguments have holes a man can drive a truck thru

So far you have not been able to pierce them with the needle of thought let alone drive a truck through anything.


.....back to the drawing board with you.