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GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/17/2010 11:39:43 PM)

alice.. since you emailed me and blocked me before I could respond (what? less than 5 minutes?)

Your cmail me to me says my  body is an amorphous mass not even slightly recalling the female figure.
 
 that I am the ugliest thing to hit this website.
 
 
My response was this:

My body type is actually ECTOMORPHIC.  And frankly, insults coming from a non-passable transvestite in denial mean less than nothing to ME, my HUSBAND, my FRIENDS (which I HAVE... ), and my family.

Sorry you are so bitter and lonely.




Smutmonger -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/17/2010 11:49:09 PM)

Oh dear,Alice is a tranny? That explains a bit then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLF3-Qvk84




GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/17/2010 11:50:23 PM)

*giggle*




LanceHughes -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 12:08:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Lady P.. I think you should double up.. me and Bear... that would be so AWESOME!!!!

I've been saying that for a long time.



road trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Let's see...... what could possibly be missing in such a combo?  I've got it!!!  Y'all need (and so do I) a domly Lance in there somewhere!!!  I hereby volunteer to "drive" (iffen you get my drift.) LOL! Well, I'll drive when Lady Pact gets tired.....





GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 12:09:37 AM)

*slut*




VaguelyCurious -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 12:12:48 AM)

will *not*  make joke about Lancing good and hard...
will *not* make joke about Lancing good and hard...
will *not*...




LanceHughes -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 12:17:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Dear Robert,
I decline your offer to debate your opinions. You have the same right to them hold them dearly as you do to pray to any God(s) of your choice. I did not read your entire 19,604 word profile and journal entries. I did read your section on casual bdsm. Your innocence and idealism would be refreshing if not for the ill founded logic and myriad of bad slogans your proffer.

... a loving heart is a terrible thing to waste
In the pursuit of cheap thrills they lose the ability to love.
Healthy BDSM is not a cheap thrill. It is an expression of love . . .
Why does bdsm attract so many broken women?
If you need fixing, you shouldn't be involved in bdsm.
. . . and etc.


Dude, what a hoot! It’s like I can hear your Enigma music tapes playing as you wrote that drivel.

Love is a choice and there is an asshole in every crowd that will fall for you because you are lovable, smart and powerful. I suggest wasting those lovable hearts not your own precious time.

I love cheap thrills, expensive thrills and all kinds of thrills. I have not lost the ability to love.

BDSM is BOTH a cheap thrill and an expression of love. Didn’t your mother teach you these things?

BDSM dosen’t attract so many broken women in comparison to any other lifestyle. There are just as many fruit bats in the vanilla singles dating scene as there are in the BDSM scene.

BDSM happens to be excellent desensitization therapy and you are a fucking prejudice pig if you want to deny crazy people access to BDSM. What, only vanillas fuck crazies?

All in all, I cherish my opinion that your opinion is ill founded and full of shit. My lunch hour is over, I must go but will say this, you are a legend in my book for publishing a 19,604 word manifesto of bullshit.

Best wishes, don’t get banned again.

-Kalon Eric


Quoted for TRUTH.....




Smutmonger -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 1:45:39 AM)

I'm going to have to ask Bob's squirrels to stop whispering these things to him while he sleeps.

It's just too much.




LanceHughes -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 2:04:18 AM)

::: SIGH :::  I give a big sigh as I realize this is a train-wreck and that I just have to stop and look (and comment) when I know I've vowed to not do so.  (I vowed at what? page 8 or 9 or so.....LOL!)

As a gay man, I learned to "smell" an Evanglical Christian moralist a long time ago.  Boob falls squarely in that category.

There are morals and there are ethics.  The difference cannot be found in most dictionaries where they are cross referenced.  Morals: see Ethics.  Ethics: see Morals.  To me, the difference is simple to explain through an example.  Until a year or so ago, here in Colorado it was illegal to sell package goods (alcoholic beverages in packages, i.e. bottled booze) on Sundays.  HUH?  Why does the calendar day make a difference in the legality?  Of course, the Puritanical remanents of Prohibition remain in many places even to this day.  "You will (will not) do what I say just because I tell you so," is as moralistic a statement as can be.

The corresponding ETHICAL statement/Law (with a capital L) is "No one is allowed to drive drunk (regardless of the day of the week.)"  The State has a vested interest in protecting all its citizens through such ethical laws.  As an Atheist, I have NO morals - but I'll put my ethics up against anyone, including Boob (but he only wants to argue his moral position, not the ethics of the situation.)

I could go on and on about "battles" I've had with such folk, but I'll take a pass.  You know, I think Boob needs his own forum/board.  Oh, wait....... there is one.  It's the Politics and Religion Forum.  I've read plenty of posts there and shudder at the lack of respect for logic.  Lot of ranting and raving.  Can you find any Lance post there?  I don't think so.  I prefer to get on with RL (which includes reading and writing on CM.)  My presence here is explained by simple curiousity generated by finding that an "Introduction" thread/string/rope/cable had over 400 posts when the average length of the thread in that forum is well under 10 posts.

Posting on the boards for me is cathartic, satisfying, and part of my RL.  I feel a great responsibilty to help educate folks about Old Guard from A (with a capital "A," as in singular) gay Leatherman's point of view...... you see, there's so few of us left..... Oh, wait..... I guess that makes ME a LEGEND!!!!
 
One more coherent thought and then I'm outta here...... I have used nails to attach the scrotum of a male "under my hand" to a board.  Did it a few times in public. (Once at Thunder In the Mountains - Lady Pact, were you there?)  Did it the remaining times in public as part of a CBT lesson (same guy always!) Practiced it in private before going public (of course!)  Were we in love? Nope.

That makes me think that the OP is confusing INTENSE scenes to mean non-casual scenes.  Further, he seems to think that INTENSE scenes are possible only within a loving relationship.

Oh, yeah.... I said I'm outta here.

/Lance checks for his car keys. <funniest post on this massive waste of time. A waste except for the humor.>/

/Lance says "Bye, folks.  I enjoyed this for awhile.  My curiousity is satisfied and I promise y'all - and myself - that I'll never, ever, ever even open a string started by the OP."/

/Lance exits, closing the door quietly as he shakes his head, going off in search of threads which are reasonable, instructive, logical and helpful - all of which said threads relate to understandable questions./

/Lance re-opens the door, sticking his head just inside to say:  When I typed that last, I just now realized that the OP started this thread with a quote from the Cowardly Lion..... "Put up your dukes.  Put 'em up.  Put 'em up.  C'mon, I dare ya, I dare ya."

That's what I read in the OP; a quote from a Cowardly Legend........er,........ Lion.

Stop, Lance. Stop.

/Closes door gently./







Edited for punctuation, spelling and "smoothness of flow."




ResidentSadist -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 2:35:28 AM)

A picture is worth a thousand words and I think this says it all!


[image]http://residentsadist.com/pics/fu-lance.jpg[/image]




heartcream -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 4:29:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist


...BDSM dosen’t attract so many broken women in comparison to any other lifestyle. There are just as many fruit bats in the vanilla singles dating scene as there are in the BDSM scene...

-Kalon Eric


[image]http://animalshow.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/070805194059-large.jpg[/image]

I want a CM profile!!!




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 4:35:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
As a gay man, I learned to "smell" an Evanglical Christian moralist a long time ago.  Boob falls squarely in that category.


~smile~

Lance, your fortune cookie says today is not a good day to buy lottery tickets ;)

Believe it or not, you don't have to be a christian anymore to be concerned about ethics. Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslim ... even agnostics and atheists are getting involved in a study of ethics.

Now I realize talking about ethics can be a scary thing for some people, but it is never too late to learn ;)




sirsholly -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 4:40:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

A picture is worth a thousand words and I think this says it all!


[image]http://residentsadist.com/pics/fu-lance.jpg[/image]
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




VaguelyCurious -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:00:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heartcream


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist


...BDSM dosen’t attract so many broken women in comparison to any other lifestyle. There are just as many fruit bats in the vanilla singles dating scene as there are in the BDSM scene...

-Kalon Eric


[image]http://animalshow.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/070805194059-large.jpg[/image]

I want a CM profile!!!


OMG hc that bat is cute!
I don't see bats at all where I live at uni-I really miss them when I'm not at home :-(




VaguelyCurious -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:08:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved

Believe it or not, you don't have to be a christian anymore to be concerned about ethics. Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslim ... even agnostics and atheists are getting involved in a study of ethics.

Now I realize talking about ethics can be a scary thing for some people, but it is never too late to learn ;)



Forgive me if I'm wrong Mr Hughes, but:

BLoved, that was his whole point. Morality is a religious construct. Ethics are (or at least should be) universal.

Most (if not all) of what you say is incredibly moralistic.

I'm going to use myself as an example instead of Lance Hughes, because I don't know him. I'm ethical. I care about the subs I play with, I treat them well. For example, if I don't stay overnight with them I phone in the morning and discuss how they are feeling; I show their limits the utmost respect etc etc...

By your standards I am, however, terribly immoral, because all this takes place outside of a loving relationship.

Not so bothered about that...




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:12:39 AM)

~FR~

With so many casual bdsm advocates acting like children, is it any wonder casual bdsm gets condemned as an irresponsible and damaging activity?




VaguelyCurious -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:15:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved

~FR~

With so many casual bdsm advocates acting like children, is it any wonder casual bdsm gets condemned as an irresponsible and damaging activity?


We are acting like children because your argument seems pretty childish.

Your use of the passive phrase 'gets condemned' is interesting; by making a passive statement you are disassociating the condemnation from yourself, which seems to imply that it's not just you who holds your belief.

I have so far seen no evidence for that implication.




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:20:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
For example, if I don't stay overnight with them I phone in the morning and discuss how they are feeling


And you think they believe you are expressing sincere concerns for their well-being?

Or just trying to ease your conscience because they were not important enough to you to stay with them after they've given you their all?

I see no reason to consider your behaviour ethical. From my point of view you simply undermine their self-esteem by treating them as an after-thought rather than as vulnerable and valuable human beings. Easier to deal with their emotions by phone than in person, and of course, since this is casual, they can expect nothing from you in the emotional department ... simply more evidence that you erode their self-esteem and let them know you really don't care what they feel.

Your effort to simplify my arguments such that it is simply a question of semantics (morality vs ethics) is self-serving at best.

My ethics are about preserving and enhancing self-esteem.

Your morality cares nothing for the self-esteem of others. What matters to the casual player is their own selfish desires.

Which is why you call in the morning to ask about "feelings". Your conscience already knows the truth your obsession denies.




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:23:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved
~FR~
With so many casual bdsm advocates acting like children, is it any wonder casual bdsm gets condemned as an irresponsible and damaging activity?


We are acting like children because your argument seems pretty childish.


And yet I do not act like a child, regardless of how you act.

That is what self-discipline is for: to control impulses that do us no good.

You can conjure whatever excuses you wish, the fact remains there isn't an ounce of self-discipline amongst the lot of you considering how you choose to present yourself here.

And then we're supposed to believe you when you say casual bdsm is "safe"?

You can't even control yourselves in public. What are the odds you are any better at it in private where no one can witness the abuse?




EbonyWood -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 5:31:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved

Your effort to simplify my arguments such that it is simply a question of semantics (morality vs ethics) is self-serving at best.


Because that's all you have - semantics. You have no evidence beyond your unsupported view.
 
Please provide evidence, quoting your sources.
 
Probably want to abandon your fixation on children as well. Is this a reason you were previously banned?




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