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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Two and a half years ago you said this: (oh wait...thanks RedMagic for an hour of my life I can't get back...) ok, you said this: "I am confused why so many insist their way is the only way in which to handle death, and that as it was for them, it must be so for me.

I'd have thought those exposed to all the variations of lifestyle and relationship such as exists under the BDSM umbrella would see the dangers in declaring "One True Way" for dealing with death.

It would seem there are actually very few who understand that."

Insert relationships for the word death, and you'll have answered your own argument(s).

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

My personal thoughts and opinions, are this thread has been going in the direction ancipated and planned for, and the concept of it being "hijacked" is rather a guise.

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Go commit some basic carnal acts and get your rocks offs.

Without love, I have no interest in sex or bdsm with anyone.

You are such a romantic.
[:)]

I respect myself and I respect the lady enough not to abuse either of us through a meaningless sexual encounter.

What I have to give is worthy of love, respect and devotion, I will not give it for less, nor would I want anyone to give themselves to me for less.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx
Ok, the above was your entire answer to me. I find it interesting that you needed to be reminded on your stance.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Reasonable debate I welcome and can handle. They've got nothing to offer, so they resort to character assasination.

For example:

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
You use an alleged sick child to derive sympathy. You create a wife character who you represent to have 'lovingly' nailed her tits to a board. Of course now she's dead, looking for some "woe is me" reaction. The intent is to point out that you are a masochist. A bratty attention whore at that who, when seeing attention wane, posts some ridiculous manifesto, most likely stolen from another source, to attract more cyber beatings.

If you did, and could, you would.

You have a position that is absolute - so do I. I absolutely think your representation as a poor soul needing care and attention due to his circumstances. You market yourself by using them. That's my "one true way" perspective. I wasn't assassinating your character I am defining it.

Care to argue?

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx
Ok, the above was your entire answer to me. I find it interesting that you needed to be reminded on your stance.

You know what's really interesting about that stance? In his post from 2 years ago, he equated/compared the two when it suited his purpose to equate them...but now when it would backfire against him to do so, it's "apples and oranges".

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Go commit some basic carnal acts and get your rocks offs.

Without love, I have no interest in sex or bdsm with anyone.

You are such a romantic.
[:)]

I respect myself and I respect the lady enough not to abuse either of us through a meaningless sexual encounter.

What I have to give is worthy of love, respect and devotion, I will not give it for less, nor would I want anyone to give themselves to me for less.

I called you a romantic which is accurate and respectful. You jumped on your manifesto and used it as an excuse to sling insults with Christian witch hunting slogans of “abuse”. I refuse to bite into your bait which implies anything other than your way is “abuse” and start discussing your manifesto. But come on now Robert, cut the crap and get real with me. Haven’t you ever had a “meaningless sexual encounter” with a meaningful, respected and devoted partner? I’ll gladly talk with you about what you define as meaningless sex. Just leave that bullshit condescending attitude that permeates your manifesto at the door and we will get on just fine.

Is a “meaningless sexual encounter” like getting you your dick sucked just because you woke up with a hard on count if it was inspired by devotion because someone loved, respected and cared about you?

Is gratuitous, spontaneous and violent anal sex a “meaningless sexual encounter” if she sacrifices her ass because she is devoted and loving but you took that ass just because you noticed the dog was watching?

I have trouble seeing how you see the things I do that balance me, that feed my inner beast as “meaningless sexual encounters”. Feeding the beast is very meaningful. Whether it is a lifetime partner, a partner of 10 years, 10 days or 10 hours, if my partner cares about me they will throw themselves upon my altar with gleeful scarifice to be ravaged in a flurry of thrill seeking sensations. Is that “meaningless” or “meaningful”?

Is a normally thrill seeking and casual act become meaningful if it is commited with love, respect and devotion?

Do you measure “meaningless” with time served?
Do you measure “meaningless” with time promised?
Do you measure “meaningless” by the act, whether there are thrills or it is dutiful reproduction?
Exactly WFT is a “meaningless sexual encounter”?

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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

My personal thoughts and opinions, are this thread has been going in the direction ancipated and planned for, and the concept of it being "hijacked" is rather a guise.

Hmmm intriguing theory...  how so?

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

~smile~

Apples and oranges.

If you wish to argue that because I have convictions regarding casual bdsm then I must be equally rigid in every other way, you are pursing fallacious reasoning.

Ok, the above was your entire answer to me. I find it interesting that you needed to be reminded on your stance.

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If you want to know what your answer was it was "apples and oranges" which was very dismissive, and didn't even attempt to address the question.

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

XXXXXHUGE HUGE HUGE SNIPxxxxxx.

That is the mob's true goal: to silence me.

They just don't want anyone listening to me.

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Have you even noticed that both those into and not into casual BDSM are in agreement over how you present your opinions?

I need only look at the manner in which they express their objections to get a sense of their maturity.

Do they really expect to be taken seriously, behaving like that? Do they really think such performances discredit me with mature responsible adults?

Are they really unaware of how bombastic they appear?

Bob... if you really think they are ones being immature when they politely ask you to define your words and question your approach, you really don't understand the meaning of the word immature.

This thread did not get moved to Random Stupidity because of me.

It was moved because the behaviour of so many regulars was an embarassment to the site.

If they were behaving better, this thread would have been a sterling representative of behaviour this site could be proud to display to new users thinking of posting their introductions.

Instead it was moved to Random Stupidity.

How do you explain that if everyone was so polite and mature?

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Seeds

Much can be said for the planting of seeds of discord, reresentment, and other negative emotions. Where it grows and spills forth and fills a persons day not with happiness or bliss. but instills a certain degree of bitterness. So much easier it is for people to turn and fight amoung themselves after the seeds of negative emotions have taken hold. The seeds of disharmony and unbalance.

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Merc is not the only member of the mob who feels that way. The posts to this thread attest to that.

And I am not going to get into an argument about semantics. If it is easier for you to accept such behaviour by calling it "mutual dislike" it is your affair.

It is clear to me (and I dare say any reasonably mature and responsible adult) that it fits the definition for "character assassination".

I for one feel no need to make excuses for Merc's behavior.

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
I called you a romantic which is accurate and respectful.

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You jumped on your manifesto and used it as an excuse to sling insults with Christian witch hunting slogans of “abuse”.

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Haven’t you ever had a “meaningless sexual encounter” with a meaningful, respected and devoted partner?

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Exactly WFT is a “meaningless sexual encounter”?

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

Since you've demonstrated a willingness to misrepresent my answer, I see no reason in providing you with another one.

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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

My personal thoughts and opinions, are this thread has been going in the direction ancipated and planned for, and the concept of it being "hijacked" is rather a guise.

Hmmm intriguing theory...  how so?

Seriously, this thread has not be HiJacked, it's going along as it was hoped and ancipated. There is calculating choice and use of words and phrases. Mere triggers to provoke natural and predictable responses of negative human emotions.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I just gotta say............kudos to the powers that be for allowing the likes of bOoB and this wonderfulalice to hang out and entertain.

You just can't make this shit up!

Now all we need is the wacky duo, artie and his domme, to join in!