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BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:55:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Blushie, he can't answer so he is going to evade and twist, dancing and dancing, changing the subject.

It's like trying to have an intelligent discussion with a drunk.


I did answer her, as the full quote demonstrates.

Her decision to delete the relevant quote and then claim I'd only answered "apples and oranges" is a troll.


If you were able to answer you would.
You can't so you won't. 
It's your MO.


A mature and responsible adult will understand the answer I gave, and will understand why you misrepresented me.




Raiikun -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:56:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BLoved


A mature and responsible adult will understand the answer I gave, and will understand why you misrepresented me.


Too late, a mature, responsible adult has already explained accurately why she didn't misrepresent you. Your character assassination attempt is simply failing.




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:56:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Do you have a cliff notes version of that 19,604 word profile and journal? I was thinking along the lines of a definition for “meaningless sexual encounter” with 25 words or less maybe?


Either you want a complete answer or you don't.




BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:58:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
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ORIGINAL: BLoved
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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.



I call "Bullshit" on this.


I've been through this on four different sites.

I know the pattern.

All anyone need do to verify is read this thread.




mnottertail -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:59:06 PM)

If you cant completely describe it on the back cover of a matchbook, it is an inchoate idea anyway.

Ron




Icarys -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 12:59:48 PM)

Clip intermission..We're at the halfway mark at 58 pages so I thought it would be appropriate..[sm=jerry.gif][sm=chug.gif]


Great movie and some odd similarities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gHH0ih867U




ResidentSadist -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:05:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BLoved
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Do you have a cliff notes version of that 19,604 word profile and journal? I was thinking along the lines of a definition for “meaningless sexual encounter” with 25 words or less maybe?

Either you want a complete answer or you don't.

When the laws of a country take more than a lifetime to learn, it is time to find a new country.

When the answer to a simple definition, takes 19,604 words which is more text than any dictionary or encyclopedia would normally devote to the topic . . . someone is selling a manifesto.

Good luck with that. As I said, I'm not buying.




alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:06:06 PM)

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Not understanding, in the context of my remarks, is a friendly companion to "not giving a fuck why the hell anyone is harping on [your] gender, it's completely irrelevant and reflects poorly on the attacker."


You stated "put me in the group of people who don't understand or agree with the harping on her gender" since my profile states Im female- and you don't care because it is a silly insult. Yes I understand both points fully. There is no micomunication. No reason to clarify anything here.

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What I can't agree with is the implicit assumption that anyone reading or responding to you would necessarily be following all your drama.


WOW! I said EXACTLY the opposite: "....please think for a minute about the context that I may be attacking these people in- that is, you may have not seen ALL that that person may have said to me. I *rarely* read even the entire page, and *never* read the entire thread."

I am fully aware that much of the attacks on my physical appearance probably stemmed from people reading only the previous page or so and assuming I was the foremost attacker of people's looks, or that I had somehow touted how I was a perfect 10 or some such thing- in order to fairly garner ALL the vicious personal attacks I was getting "oh you are NOT that hot..sort of attitude (some state they are sorry now. *shrugs*).  MEANING: I assume people only saw A BIT of what happened and made faulty conclusions about me and how to react to me. Trust me I get it.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3071215/mpage_55/key_/tm.htm#3075966

So I do NOT know why you think I assumed everyone was "following all my drama".

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...until you stated that I had made a "mean first post." A statement that confused and amused me for assorted reasons I don't need to go into now.


Honestly? what the heck are you talking about? I am glad something that doesn't make sense amuses you; it just annoys me. Different personalities.

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And just as I don't really care why people decided it was an awesome idea to start insulting you by calling you a biological male, the number of people who were really really mean to you before you started flinging shallow and silly insults around doesn't change my opinion that your insults are shallow and silly.


Agreed entirely. However- two things- ALL my insults were not shallow and silly. In fact, as I explained in the above post (the link)- I ONLY RESORTED to such insults once someone has shown themselves to be quite vicious, and when I believe part of their viciousness stems from jealousy of me.

Further, only a person out of touch with reality or almost sociopathic could not understand how a woman would not freak out and become very, very hurt or enraged by a strong (17 pages worth) of getting called ugly, manly, anorexic, big nosed, crazy idiot, etc. etc.

So you can remain on your purported moral highground all you want, but this is the way things are here on this board. Some of the most despiccable behavior, issuing from some of the most despiccable people- looks-wise, intelligence-wise, morally, socially- people filled with insecurity, a predatory nature, and not very in touch with reality. It is clear and if I have to spell this out so much for people who are in denial then. EVERYONE KNOWS what happens on the internet. On bathroom walls. Anywhere that is open to EVERYONE and where people who work very hard in their daily life to "fit in" no longer have to.

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If you feel like you have to write a 1000 word essay "justifying" your insults, then you probably shouldn't make them in the first place.


I didn't it took: only this
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"1. I have been attacked by like 3 people at once previously- so I am enraged and hurt at this point.
2. This person has attacked my looks, without provocation, before. I am only returning the favor.
3. I think it's only fair to note that there are both men and women in the world who can be quite nasty to people who are significantly more attractive than they are. Ask any women who is attractive, they *will* tell you this. I promise you!!! I get nasty looks all the time by older ugly women when I simply waiting in line at the drug store and have made no eye contact with her until I realize someone is glaring at me. I in fact will bet any single person here, $100 that you will get the same answer if you take a random poll and ask if they feel that other women have not in the past been nasty towards them based on their looks. Or you could also do google reserach if you don't believe me. *sigh* I'd thought it was common knowledge. But here? It's rude to call this out, but let me clarify that I am stating this to give some background to the psychology of what has happened here. Plenty of people on this thread have manipulated things to seem as if somehow it is ME that is some TERRIBLE, GRINDINGLY SHALLOW NAME-CALLING human when I was consistently attacked for NOTHING BUT my looks for 17 pages almost- and in fact, continue to be ( no seriously, get a life!) AND further, I AM ONLY CALLING THEM OUT ON JEALOUSY BEING THE REASON FOR THEIR ABUSE."
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If I'm calling someone a dumbshit it's because I think they're a dumbshit, it's not because they called me a bitch first.


I am not impressed by your sophistry- you seem to be under the impression that I somehow never *actually* meant the insults I'd said. I did. But I SAID them, which was wrong and petty. If I find someone hideous on many levels, I am not going to SAY it unless they start bullying or harassing me. So. I don't really see your point here.





BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:08:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Good luck with that. As I said, I'm not buying.


~smile~

As you can see, I'm not interested in converting people.

Those who want to know what I have to share will read. Those who don't won't.

Entirely up to them.




Icarys -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:09:46 PM)

Welcome back Bob.




GreedyTop -> RE: A capybara returns ... (2/19/2010 1:11:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I know somebody else mentioned it during this thread, but what other site? 

I, for one, can promise you that I didn't follow you to any other site that you've been banned from.  Unlike you, I've been here the whole time.  (That's not to say that I've never put anything on the boards that could have bounced Me out of here.  I kind of miss notes from Eleven.)  I also have a Fet account that I barely use and anyone can research that and see just how little that is.  The name is the same in both places.  You would have to actually provide Me with the name you use on Fet for Me to know that you exist there.


Suuuuuuure. Except we all know about your numerous sock puppet usernames:

monkeyfodder2002
lookn4nigerianluv4me
spam_fetish
3girls6guys4cups

...and so forth and so on...


1000 points




ResidentSadist -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:12:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
Hey you know I am a totally normal biological female right? I used to model in high school in fact. They started this solely as a way to be mean . . .

You're a model, you put a money shot in your profile pics to end that debate right? If not, send me one and I'll testify on your behalf.




alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:13:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: BLoved
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
I called you a romantic which is accurate and respectful.

And that is how I read it.
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Exactly WFT is a “meaningless sexual encounter”?

Read my profile and journal.

Do you have a cliff notes version of that 19,604 word profile and journal? I was thinking along the lines of a definition for “meaningless sexual encounter” with 25 words or less maybe?


You know I'd been wondering with some people about the whole cut-copy-paste restriction on this stupid website, and how did he manage to get all that into his profile? He MUST have cut and pasted...How come I can't cut-and-paste into my journal or profile?




juliaoceania -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:14:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
in actuality this thread was MONOPOLIZING (I'm guessing you are familiar with the term) the intro thread, and those newbie posters you are so worried about in fact could not get their intros even noticed for this threads activity. They couldn’t stay on top of the page for any length of time at all.


And who was responsible for that?



I find laced within so many of your posts a lack of ability to assign responsibility to those who are responsible for their own reality...

mistoferin used to have this in her sigline "There are no victims, there are only volunteers"

You volunteered, Bob




alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:15:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.



I call "Bullshit" on this.


SHENANIGANS!!

Hey wait is there a South Park character emoticon on here?




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:16:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
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ORIGINAL: BLoved
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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.



I call "Bullshit" on this.


I've been through this on four different sites.

I know the pattern.

All anyone need do to verify is read this thread.


1. you do not merely state your beliefs alone, it's done in manner to belittle/demean others and to bostler your stance as being supreme or superior. You actually come of a bit like a Hitlerized version of Jesus. Hail Bob. this is what provokes the social conflict. Instead of you delivering a message, you literally take the message bend people over and try to shove it up their ass. Needless to say, the message does not get read or well recieved. Because people are hurting from it being shoved up their ass.
2. People respond with a sincere emotional response.
3. When you pointing out they are acting in an imature manner, you INTENTIONAL not taking any responsbility for your OFFENSE nor HURT You've cause. You captialize upon the negative emotions people respond with after they Pull your Statement/Messages out of their asses.
4. More People engage you because you are attacking everybody and everybody... Oh yeah..

There's a pattern here. Bob, your character does needs to be called into question and even assasinated. This has very little to do with regarding your message. It's not your message that's the issue. It's the payload delivery of it.

Bob, you're an abusive personality within itself yet can't see it nor acknowledge it, or perhaps worse yet, you bask in it. Hell, if I know which nor care to know which at this point in time.




juliaoceania -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:17:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
So you are saying we shouldn’t publish challenges to read and debate our manifestos in the guise of an introduction in the Introduce Yourself forums?


I am sure if you have one singing the praises of casual bdsm there would be no problem.

Only those who speak of love have a problem on a bdsm site.



I am not into casual BDSM

I love the person I do BDSM with...

(waits for the attacks I know will not come... wonders if Bob will finally get that it is not about his opinion, it is about how he presents it... naw, he won't ever understand that)




alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:21:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Do you have a cliff notes version of that 19,604 word profile and journal? I was thinking along the lines of a definition for “meaningless sexual encounter” with 25 words or less maybe?


Either you want a complete answer or you don't.


Thinkers who advocate an idea/theory/paradigm are usually able to articulate it clearly- in a shorter form- abridge it- discuss it- defend it- explain why it's different from older paradigms or contemporary ones and where the idea came from. You see them do it on talk shows and radio shows and websites and interviews. Usually when they are promoting a new book.

Bob my point is that you might need to look for holes in your love-only paradigm. Simply because it is totalitarian (Ive had this discussion before though).




lusciouslips19 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:22:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
in actuality this thread was MONOPOLIZING (I'm guessing you are familiar with the term) the intro thread, and those newbie posters you are so worried about in fact could not get their intros even noticed for this threads activity. They couldn’t stay on top of the page for any length of time at all.


And who was responsible for that?




Round and round we go.....




alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 1:22:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
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ORIGINAL: BLoved
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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.



I call "Bullshit" on this.


I've been through this on four different sites.

I know the pattern.

All anyone need do to verify is read this thread.


Sure! But "get more trolls"? You understand that that doesn't happen right? There's a marquee of this thread for 2 days now on the CM home page. Also, disagreeing with you doesnt make someone a troll. 




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