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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

violent crime is going down in Chicago. It has followed this trend, I believe, since the mid to late sixties. You would think by the reports of the news agencies that it was getting worse.

Some things are actually getting better even though we like to focus on the belief that they are not.

I doubt that.   Many don't bother to report crime.  Which years was Chicago the murder capital?   Alot were shot this year.

UK had cams and alot of homeland security- it should be safer there then at Disneyland.

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

When I am for work in the UK...going out is the same every where.
Most people behave...the select few not.
I don't see more drunks in the Uk then for instance in Romania or Italy.

Holidays ...seem different though. Some people ( not just Brits) can't behave themselfs.

Curious about Russia though..lol

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ORIGINAL: stella41b

Oh and you can find decent ale in pubs in towns and cities. Not all pubs serve bath water or cat's piss, you can find pubs selling really good beers, you just have to hunt them down and find them.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Some of this is what is culturally acceptable. For example - in Berlin - people walk round the streets during the day drinking beer. Now that would be seriously frowned upon in England and I suppose we could say that in Germany things are that bad that they can't get down the street without necking a beer.....but then.....well...

This country is far too socially conservative for its own good. Take football hooligans.....by and large it's a few blokes throwing a few punches with most of 'em missing by a mile. But our government go ape and clamour for England to be kicked out of football tournaments. Whereas in Italy there are stabbings and all sorts at football matches and no one seems to want to put English behaviour in some sort of perspective. A show of anti-social behaviour in this country and the politicians/media/public alike think it's armageddon. And really it's a kind of snobbery - the perception or desire being that the English don't do that sort of thing which is why there's such outrage at behaviour which is really much ado about nothing - and why the English press sensationalise crime and alcohol-fuelled casual violence.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

violent crime is going down in Chicago. It has followed this trend, I believe, since the mid to late sixties. You would think by the reports of the news agencies that it was getting worse.

Some things are actually getting better even though we like to focus on the belief that they are not.

I doubt that.   Many don't bother to report crime.  Which years was Chicago the murder capital?   Alot were shot this year.

UK had cams and alot of homeland security- it should be safer there then at Disneyland.

You know, it is all in how you want to view the world... He says official crime stats show a decrease, and you say that is because people stopped reporting. You have no proof of that, yet you state it like it is fact, so in your reality it is true.... I mean if you had a way to test your conclusion I would say "kewl beans", but since you are just going to state it like it is fact that is very sad way to live one's life!

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Do you know what the trouble is when people quote statistics, each one of those increments on whatever scale, is a person, a living breathing human being that has had wrong done to them, with statistics those people are reduced to just numbers in a collection of numbers. Does anyone ever consider when viewing statistics about crime that everything there is not a number, it's a life gone through whatever nasty occurences to be reported and make it onto a sheet of numbers, if people started thinking more about people other than numbers maybe something effective might actually be done about it, so people aren't reduced to an increment on a graph for non helping people to pore over and compare against other collections of numbers