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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 4:46:19 PM   
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yeah...another reason i purposely skipped history in school...those books were written by the winners of whatever battle or war that occurred and may or may not be accurate


Well there's a vote for ignorance.

Learn'ng's just not poss'ble, so mikey avoids it.




actually, i'm not someone who's gullible enough to believe in such a blatantly obvious work of superstitious fiction as the bible. i have been tested and have a fairly high IQ. (which means i do something that others tend to ignore...it's called "THINKING" and i can do this quite on my own, thank you very much)

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 6:39:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		You didn't say Bible. There I'd agree. You said history.

It IS called thinking, and you actually don't seem to be doing as well as you believe.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 6:46:13 PM   
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yeah...another reason i purposely skipped history in school...those books were written by the winners of whatever battle or war that occurred and may or may not be accurate


Well there's a vote for ignorance.

Learn'ng's just not poss'ble, so mikey avoids it.




actually, i'm not someone who's gullible enough to believe in such a blatantly obvious work of superstitious fiction as the bible. i have been tested and have a fairly high IQ. (which means i do something that others tend to ignore...it's called "THINKING" and i can do this quite on my own, thank you very much)

Well golly gee! you have a high IQ....please explain to me(one who has no idea where his "IQ" stands) how the fuck that means a hill of beans to someone who states he rejects information.
Newsflash for you truly intelligent people soak up information ,wherever they can find it...deciphering and attaching values as they see fit.....rejecting outright sources of information is not a sign of intelligence......as MM hinted it is an indication of willful ignorance.....and that my friend is indeed a terrible thing
A MIND IS A HORRIBLE THING TO WASTE!!!!!!!

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 6:47:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a rather pointless conversation but there is much reliable testimony and accounts rom numerous sources that Jesus lived as did his disciples. There is a ton of evidence supporting the work of Peter and Mary Magdalene after his death.

These are not made up characters. Now whether one chooses to believe their exploits is up to that individual. I don't. Due to my lack of belief, I chose to investigate the matter instead of simply dismissing the whole thing as hyperbole.

The biblical figures all around Jesus lived, from John the Babtist, King Herod to Pilate.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 6:51:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a whole heap of threads in that, domi, and shelves and shelves of books.

Among the problems is that the gospels were written long after the fact, each one having trouble agreeing with the others, and the four there cherry picked and then picked over by the church.

It is, definitely, an interesting area of study.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:02:07 PM   
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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:03:43 PM   
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There's a whole heap of threads in that, domi, and shelves and shelves of books.

Among the problems is that the gospels were written long after the fact, each one having trouble agreeing with the others, and the four there cherry picked and then picked over by the church.

It is, definitely, an interesting area of study.


actually the majority of the gospel were written by the disciples or their scribes. I don't believe that any books of the New Testamnet were canoned(sp?) that were created beyond one hundred years after the crucifixion. They were mini books that were read by the commoners and gathered up.

Some were accepted and some were rejected based upon several requirements. I remember something about the apocalyptic Peter ( iam goofing this up because it is coming off of the top of my head) that was rejected even though it was written at the time of the crucifixion.

It went something along the lines that Peter asked Jesus, if God was forgiving why were souls left to languish forever in Hell? Jesus responded that when people reached heaven and they prayed for those lost souls in Hell that they would all be released and be allowed a pass up to the pearlies.

It was rejected due to not being fire and brimstoney enough. I think it is included in the Ethiopan Bible(?)

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:16:16 PM   
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Jesus lives as well as all of his disciples. This is not something that is even up for debate. It is fact.


Santa lives as well as all of his elves. This is not something that is even up for debate. It is fact. There are accounts from so many people who have sat on his lap.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:31:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fine. N0 one has ever seen santa at the north pole. There are many accounts that jesus lived and died. Just because you choose not to research a subject I guess makes you an expert.

There are many accounts of Jesus. What you have to be able to do is seperate the life of Jesus from the Christian myth and pilosophy.

Just because you didn't believe in what Jimmy Jones represented doesn't mean that he didn't live and die. Drink the kool aid, my friend.



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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:32:52 PM   
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"isn't the Catholic church, in a whole...gay?"


I can think of no other poster at CM that I would turn to quicker to find the answer to such a question.


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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 7:49:25 PM   
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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 8:05:45 PM   
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"isn't the Catholic church, in a whole...gay?"


I can think of no other poster at CM that I would turn to quicker to find the answer to such a question.

Almost,but not quite,driven to research all of his previous 104 posts in the forlorn hope that some redeeming quality might be found.
Of course he could just be pulling our legs here.....but no one would do that.....would they?   

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 8:11:21 PM   
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I can't find the link. I know I saw it somewhere that Jesus hated sports too


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Not true...he and the disciples went fishing.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 8:18:57 PM   
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Jesus lives as well as all of his disciples. This is not something that is even up for debate. It is fact.


Santa lives as well as all of his elves. This is not something that is even up for debate. It is fact. There are accounts from so many people who have sat on his lap.


don't forget the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, the Abominable Snowman, Kirk, Spock and the rest of the ST: TOS, the Next Gen grew, Voyager and DS9.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 8:20:41 PM   
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I can think of no other poster at CM that I would turn to quicker to find the answer to such a question.


i'm full of answers and insights *GRINZ*

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 9:48:57 PM   
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Fine. N0 one has ever seen santa at the north pole.

Norad tracks Santa from the North Pole every year.

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There are many accounts that jesus lived and died.

There are many accounts Paul Bunyan lived and died.


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This is a rather pointless conversation but there is much reliable testimony and accounts rom numerous sources that Jesus lived as did his disciples.


Really? Reliable testimony, not the fabricated crap Stobel's been peddling? I'm all ears.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 9:57:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		wouldn't it be funny if, after all these people who spend a lifetime going to church (competing for the best dressed goes to heaven contests), praying, singing hymns, paying tithes to the church (since God (if he truly exists) can't handle money) and being on their best (holier-than-thou) behavior (criticizing those who are different than they are)...they pass away only to find...that that was it...they're gone and they didn't go anywhere? just died...and there was neither a Heaven or a Hell?

i, personally, think that's hilarious...LOL

afterall, don't the Arab terrorist believe that, when they die...they'll all get 76 virgins in the "afterlife"?


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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 10:02:45 PM   
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Among the problems is that the gospels were written long after the fact, each one having trouble agreeing with the others, and the four there cherry picked and then picked over by the church.


actually the majority of the gospel were written by the disciples or their scribes.


So instead of presenting evidence to back up my claims I can just put the word actually in front of them. Excellent, that will save me a lot of time.

Actually you're wrong.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 10:38:43 PM   
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wouldn't it be funny if, after all these people who spend a lifetime going to church (competing for the best dressed goes to heaven contests), praying, singing hymns, paying tithes to the church (since God (if he truly exists) can't handle money) and being on their best (holier-than-thou) behavior (criticizing those who are different than they are)...they pass away only to find...that that was it...they're gone and they didn't go anywhere? just died...and there was neither a Heaven or a Hell?

i, personally, think that's hilarious...LOL

afterall, don't the Arab terrorist believe that, when they die...they'll all get 76 virgins in the "afterlife"?

A few minor points here,lets call it the fly in  your ointment so to speak,Has it occured to you(what with that high IQ and all) that after these poor deluded religious folks die and ,as per your scenario, there is nothing and that was that....than whats the problem...where is the level of conciousness that would leave them feeling disapointed?After all as you speculate they are just simply dead....in other words no buyers remorse at all....Just death.
I heard 72 virgins...though I doubt anyone would complain about you throwing in the extra 4.

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RE: Elton John: Jesus was gay - 2/21/2010 10:40:36 PM   
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