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Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many Ter... - 2/20/2010 11:06:41 AM

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No doubt that people who go to CPAC drink too much Kool-Aid. And no doubt they have provided Kool-Aid refreshments for the delegates.

Don’t these people realize how ridiculous they are? Who does he think he is Charles Krauthammer? Darn, I forgot he is ridiculous too.

Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many Terrorists

Just how unpopular are President Barack Obama's anti-terrorism policies with his Republican critics? Even when he's killing terrorists they find flaws.

At a panel on national security policy at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday, a prominent lawyer from the Bush administration's Department of Justice said he was concerned that the higher number of terrorist executions taking place under Obama was compromising U.S. intelligence operations.

"Why have executions increased?" asked Viet Dinh, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center and one of the authors of the USA Patriot Act. Citing a recent Washington Post article on the increased targeted killing of terrorists, Dinh complained that "the president and vice president expound this fact as a fact that they are actually successful in war."

"That doesn't mean I think they are not illegitimate," he added. "No, we have every right to kill the other side's warriors. But at what cost? When we do not have an effective detention policy the only option we have is to kill them before we can detain them. And if we don't detain them, we don't know what they know and what they are up to."

The crowd applauded. Though, it should be noted, Dinh got a scattering of hisses and boos when he defended the Patriot Act.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/19/bush-official-criticizes_n_469326.html

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/20/2010 11:10:14 AM

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A prominent lawyer from the Bush administration's Department of Justice said, "That doesn't mean I think they are not illegitimate," he added. "No, we have every right to kill the other side's warriors. But at what cost? When we do not have an effective detention policy..."

Too bad lawyer man didn't think of that when he was on the job.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/20/2010 11:37:26 AM

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Well, his idea of an effective detention policy is waterboarding...

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/20/2010 12:04:33 PM

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What Steven said. Somebody who was working for Bush's administration complaining that the current Kenyan junta doesn't have an effective detention policy is pretty much taking the piss.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/20/2010 4:01:41 PM

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Moonhead I am under the impression that your constant reference to President Obama as the"kenyan" is sort of tongue in cheek.....but it does tend to make you sound like Sanity....or heaven forbid cucky.Are you sure thats what you are going for?
The "Kenyan junta" is really something best left to the likes of willbur or the aforementioned cuck(one and the same?)

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/20/2010 10:48:34 PM

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The proper term is "Kenyan Kommie".

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 4:17:36 AM

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Moonhead I am under the impression that your constant reference to President Obama as the"kenyan" is sort of tongue in cheek.....but it does tend to make you sound like Sanity....or heaven forbid cucky.Are you sure thats what you are going for?
The "Kenyan junta" is really something best left to the likes of willbur or the aforementioned cuck(one and the same?)

Okay, Mike. I was hoping that with my black belt in sarcasm in sarcasm I could get away with that, but if it's making me sound like one of the neocon headcases, I probably better had cut it out.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 9:42:10 AM

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Way to miss the point. Which is laid out succinctly right here in this paragraph you quoted.

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"That doesn't mean I think they are not illegitimate," he added. "No, we have every right to kill the other side's warriors. But at what cost? When we do not have an effective detention policy the only option we have is to kill them before we can detain them. And if we don't detain them, we don't know what they know and what they are up to."

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 9:49:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: MichiganHeadmast

Way to miss the point. Which is laid out succinctly right here in this paragraph you quoted.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

"That doesn't mean I think they are not illegitimate," he added. "No, we have every right to kill the other side's warriors. But at what cost? When we do not have an effective detention policy the only option we have is to kill them before we can detain them. And if we don't detain them, we don't know what they know and what they are up to."

And you miss the point. These groups use a cell structure so as to limit who knows what. Therefore no one except the highest level operatives knows anything.

So unless you're talking about the top tier of the organization any member we encounter is best killed. That directly disrupts any thing their cell is involved in and no useful intelligence is lost. Before the torture fetishists got in control of our intelligence agencies that had been the very successful policy for many years.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:07:43 AM

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Kudos to you, for stepping up on the dis to the President, Mike.

It's really kinda funny. After years of seeing so many on the left around these forums tripping over themselves to come up with the most insulting ways they could refer to Bush II, I find it really amusing when they have to instigate it themselves against Obama. Perhaps they are slowly beginning to grasp just how trashy it made them look?

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:14:27 AM

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on the left around these forums tripping over themselves to come up with the most insulting ways they could refer to Bush II

Right, the American public would have been better served focusing on how BUSH II left the country in better shape than he found it.

Ran a good budget: check.

Put the economy on sound footing: check.

Improved America's standing in the world: check

Wrapped up Afghanistan: check

Got us into and out of IRAQ efficiently: check

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:19:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Kudos to you, for stepping up on the dis to the President, Mike.

It's really kinda funny. After years of seeing so many on the left around these forums tripping over themselves to come up with the most insulting ways they could refer to Bush II, I find it really amusing when they have to instigate it themselves against Obama. Perhaps they are slowly beginning to grasp just how trashy it made them look?

Bush made insulting him easy by his actions and the pap that came out the hole in his face.

Trashy is those who trip over defending him and trying to paint legitimate criticism as something else.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:29:38 AM

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Now that is taking sarcasm to a whole nother level .

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 11:06:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Kudos to you, for stepping up on the dis to the President, Mike.

It's really kinda funny. After years of seeing so many on the left around these forums tripping over themselves to come up with the most insulting ways they could refer to Bush II, I find it really amusing when they have to instigate it themselves against Obama. Perhaps they are slowly beginning to grasp just how trashy it made them look?

Jesus Christ Rich.

I'd have to develop whole new levels of sarcasm to appropriately address this post and this bullshit sentiment.

Fortunately, those on the right are immune to such practices.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 12:46:13 PM

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Remeber, Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with out a trial. Along with thier families.

Democrats never said we should treat Terrorism as a criminal matter, to be handled by law enforcement.

Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with no trial.

Pre Bush, that was the successfull method used for years, killing suspects, along with their families, Democrats have always favored that.

Duh......

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 12:48:52 PM

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Or am I confused, and now it is considered "Law Enforcement", to kill suspects, along with thier famillies, with no trial......

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 1:11:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Kudos to you, for stepping up on the dis to the President, Mike.

It's really kinda funny. After years of seeing so many on the left around these forums tripping over themselves to come up with the most insulting ways they could refer to Bush II, I find it really amusing when they have to instigate it themselves against Obama. Perhaps they are slowly beginning to grasp just how trashy it made them look?

Jesus Christ Rich.

I'd have to develop whole new levels of sarcasm to appropriately address this post and this bullshit sentiment.

Fortunately, those on the right are immune to such practices.

It just made me chuckle, no thats not accurate, it made me snort in derision... snort snort

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 1:22:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Remeber, Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with out a trial. Along with thier families.

Democrats never said we should treat Terrorism as a criminal matter, to be handled by law enforcement.

Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with no trial.

Pre Bush, that was the successfull method used for years, killing suspects, along with their families, Democrats have always favored that.

Duh......

You're confused as always.

Commit an act of terrorism and get caught and you should face a criminal trial. Be part of a terrorist group and shoot at our soldiers in combat and then expect to be killed. What is so fucking hard to understand? Or is this just your simple minded partisan attempt to downplay the recent successes of the administration in fighting the people actually responsible for 9/11?

No one's families should ever be targeted.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 1:26:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Remeber, Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with out a trial. Along with thier families.

Sources and links. Please.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 1:27:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Fortunately, those on the right are immune to such practices.

Sarcasm is not the same as just making ridiculous statements and hoping they'll stick as coming from someone else, Muse.

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.

Are you tuned in to the thread, Julia? What was that cute little name you and your bf had for our last CIC?

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