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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 2:10:25 PM   
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Remeber, Democrats have allways been in favor of killing suspects with out a trial. Along with thier families.




Sources and links. Please.

He probably means the BRanch Davidians. Can't imagine what else he's talking about.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 5:22:44 PM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 5:30:21 PM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 6:36:46 PM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 9:57:28 PM   
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President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.



You lie. Below is the first post I read tonight, from the right.


"If the Dims pass this misusing reconciliation, without Republican support, there will literally be people in the streets with pitchforks, leading to (almost all) Republican primaries and races featuring at least one candidate repeatedly taking an oath to make repeal/de-funding of StealthCare their number one prioroity. Leading to Republican majorities in the House and maybe even the Senate, leading to the death of this awful, and awfully unpopular, bill.
Which I don't think will pass the House, anyway, unless "Obama's aides" have sense enough to water it down to nothing. Which he/they don't. "



The witty wordplay is about at the expected level.


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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:02:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.


Bullshit.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:28:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.


Since I'm neither left nor right ... and the party I voted in the last election where I live has no US equivalent, I should hope I'm not being considered "left" in saying that courtesy and respect towards Bush the retard will never be afforded by me.

Outside of the USA ... in my opinion, this may be found NOT to be an uncommon view ... since he's a total tosser.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:43:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.


Bullshit.



Perhaps you should explore the archives, Muse, before you wind up eating that word.  I suggest you try searching the clever word, "monkeyboy," and look around 2006.  The race to the bottom of the class barrel was quite a thing to behold.





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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:49:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.



You lie. Below is the first post I read tonight, from the right.


"If the Dims pass this misusing reconciliation, without Republican support, there will literally be people in the streets with pitchforks, leading to (almost all) Republican primaries and races featuring at least one candidate repeatedly taking an oath to make repeal/de-funding of StealthCare their number one prioroity. Leading to Republican majorities in the House and maybe even the Senate, leading to the death of this awful, and awfully unpopular, bill.
Which I don't think will pass the House, anyway, unless "Obama's aides" have sense enough to water it down to nothing. Which he/they don't. "



The witty wordplay is about at the expected level.





Careful with those accusations. 

Please tell me where in your quote President Obama is referred to with hate speech, or called a filthy name.

I think you are completely ignorant of what is being discussed. 

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/21/2010 10:55:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

President Obama is referred to by the right in these forums with far more courtesy and respect than was ever afforded to Bush II by the left.



You lie. Below is the first post I read tonight, from the right.


"If the Dims pass this misusing reconciliation, without Republican support, there will literally be people in the streets with pitchforks, leading to (almost all) Republican primaries and races featuring at least one candidate repeatedly taking an oath to make repeal/de-funding of StealthCare their number one prioroity. Leading to Republican majorities in the House and maybe even the Senate, leading to the death of this awful, and awfully unpopular, bill.
Which I don't think will pass the House, anyway, unless "Obama's aides" have sense enough to water it down to nothing. Which he/they don't. "



The witty wordplay is about at the expected level.





Careful with those accusations. 

Please tell me where in your quote President Obama is referred to with hate speech, or called a filthy name.

I think you are completely ignorant of what is being discussed. 


What I quoted is mild for what has been posted, that's the point.  Thanks for confirming it.
 
But do you actually have anything constructive besides deflecting to how each President was or is referred to here?
 
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 2:15:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		The ignorance shown by some of you, Jeff, Moonhead, Slvmike, domiguy. You are all so ignorant of what is going on in the world, you actuallyu are not aware of teh Predator drone program? how we are blowing people up, and killing civilians by the dozens? That amnesty internatinal, and the UN are up in arms about it? That the program was started under Bush, and has expanded.

And Domken you are making stuff up, as usuall. We are bombing Funerals in Pakistan. "ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An airstrike believed to have been carried out by a United States drone killed at least 60 people at a funeral for a Taliban fighter in South Waziristan on Tuesday, residents of the area and local news reports said. "

It is NOT a program used in combat while our troops are shot at.

It is making a list of suspects and killing them, where ever we find them.


This stuff is all over the web, and has been for years. Just another example of the left can't actually defend Obama. So hurl insults instead.

"Two missiles suspected to have been fired by a US drone have killed one of the wives of a leading Pakistani militant, relatives have told the BBC.

The missiles struck the house of top Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud's father-in-law, locals told the BBC.

They say that several other relatives of Mr Mehsud were injured in the attack in the South Waziristan tribal area.

The region is a haven for Taliban and al-Qaeda militants and has been repeatedly targeted by US drones. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8184734.stm


Hiding behind the block button maybe your best tactic. Since otherwise you wold have to face uncomfortable aspects of reality, and have a debate.

I am posting BBC and NYT stories about an absolutly real ongoing issue, and you compare me to realone....





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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 2:40:03 AM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 2:53:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why is it that some people don't understand the full ramifications of what it means to go to war? Because clearly in every War, innocent people have got killed and do get killed, in every war there is friendly fire, in every war there is Death. People tend to think of it like what? That it's some NFL football game or something else when the decision is being made to go to war? Regardless of the sugar coating attempts, war is never safe for the Civilian population and Civilians often end up as the targets. There is a Hell of a lot going on. It's not one side makes a move, the other side makes a move game of Chess. It's crazy shit here there and everywhere all going on at once. Managing a war is far more complicated of a job than Air Craft controlling (which is extremely stressful and diffcult). As much as we'd like to try to sugar coat it, and make it a Humane and Civil experience in our minds, that ain't the reality of war. At best we can achieve a somewhat reasonable limit to ugly nature of things.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 6:56:57 AM   
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(You can state it in the thread, I'll delete your cmail.)



Delete away.  The sentiment remains unchanged, and I'll demand an apology for your accusation from you here.  I've given you all you need to find hundreds of examples of President Bush being personally referred to in language that would create howls of outrage if it were applied to President Obama.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 7:02:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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(You can state it in the thread, I'll delete your cmail.)



Delete away.  The sentiment remains unchanged, and I'll demand an apology for your accusation from you here. 


I can't apologize for your lies. That's up to you.
 
I don't care if you do or don't. Your unsolicited mail continues to be deleted unread.

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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 8:15:31 AM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 8:30:32 AM   
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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 4:25:32 PM   
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The ignorance shown by some of you, Jeff, Moonhead, Slvmike, domiguy. You are all so ignorant of what is going on in the world, you actuallyu are not aware of teh Predator drone program? how we are blowing people up, and killing civilians by the dozens? That amnesty internatinal, and the UN are up in arms about it? That the program was started under Bush, and has expanded.

And Domken you are making stuff up, as usuall. We are bombing Funerals in Pakistan. "ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An airstrike believed to have been carried out by a United States drone killed at least 60 people at a funeral for a Taliban fighter in South Waziristan on Tuesday, residents of the area and local news reports said. "

It is NOT a program used in combat while our troops are shot at.

It is making a list of suspects and killing them, where ever we find them.


This stuff is all over the web, and has been for years. Just another example of the left can't actually defend Obama. So hurl insults instead.

"Two missiles suspected to have been fired by a US drone have killed one of the wives of a leading Pakistani militant, relatives have told the BBC.

The missiles struck the house of top Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud's father-in-law, locals told the BBC.

They say that several other relatives of Mr Mehsud were injured in the attack in the South Waziristan tribal area.

The region is a haven for Taliban and al-Qaeda militants and has been repeatedly targeted by US drones. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8184734.stm


Hiding behind the block button maybe your best tactic. Since otherwise you wold have to face uncomfortable aspects of reality, and have a debate.

I am posting BBC and NYT stories about an absolutly real ongoing issue, and you compare me to realone....

The story you quote is from Aug. 5 2009. I will note that the recent successes have not involved drones and have been acting in concert with the Pakistani army.

So you're using an old story to tell lies about what is happening now. And you felt this was so good as to attempt to impugn my integrity? Not your smartest move.

Just to put the lie to the claims that we kill teh valuable intel sources we have this story from today:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/02/22/taliban.arrest/



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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 4:33:03 PM   
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You note, yet provide no evidence at all. Because it doesn't exist.


and you show you won't acknowledge your false claim.



"February 18, 2010: 4 killed in a strike in Northwest Waziristan including Mohammed Haqqani, the brother of Afghan Taliban commander Siraj Haqqani who leads the Haqqani network. [124][125] The missiles hit a vehicle belonging to Siraj that Mohammed was riding in, but Siraj was not in the vehicle at the time.[126] Mohammed and Siraj were reportedly attending the funeral of Sheikh Mansoor, who had been killed by a drone strike the day before.[127][128][129] "

Febuary 18th 2010, was how long ago?



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RE: Bush Official Criticizes Obama For Killing Too Many... - 2/22/2010 4:41:46 PM   
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Killed a suspects brother...

While on the way to a funeral...

and missed the suspect....


why no snarky response?


as usuall, everything I post is true and can be backed up.




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