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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:20:15 AM

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Problem being that the goose fondler is really asking the question of owners as to who would order it knowing there ARE consequences.

You have to project that your owner IS irresponsible, say someone like osf.

Then you can answer as to whether you would do it. Do it knowing there ARE consequences, not that a 'considerate' decision has been made.

… but, I wouldn’t belong to someone like that, therefore, unable to answer.

I just wanna plaaay tooooo. : )

Besides, conformity goes against my beliefs. ; )

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:24:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

Problem being that the goose fondler is really asking the question of owners as to who would order it knowing there ARE consequences.

You have to project that your owner IS irresponsible, say someone like osf.

Then you can answer as to whether you would do it. Do it knowing there ARE consequences, not that a 'considerate' decision has been made.

People out here have a hard time reading and comprehending.

possibly they can do one....Being a double threat out here is extremely rare. osf has posed a question where there are ramifications...You Dumb Cunts!!!!

You are in a restaurant....You take off your clothes. They call the cops. You run out of the restaurant or you go to jail....That is the scenario.

Many of you would still take off your clothes because you have absolutely nothing to lose.....Sucks to be you!

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:25:42 AM

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Question:
For those who are projecting that their owner is the irresponsible type:
a) that don't think of consequences....
b) that realize consequences and act anyway in a negligent manner....
c) that would demand their slave do something illegal/immoral or downright dangerous....

Why would you be with them in the first place? How could you go through the discussions and negotiations and the whole discovery "getting to know you" period and not realize that these things could happen? Why would you accept a collar or any relationship with someone that isn't compatible with your own morals/ethics and limits?

one will say that if she was in a relationship where she had to second guess His motives or intentions before obeying any order given, she's in the wrong place. That's upon her shoulders.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:26:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

… but, I wouldn’t belong to someone like that, therefore, unable to answer.

Kinda sums up my thoughts too.

Hypothesis or fantasy. Only the goose knows.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:34:58 AM

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If you can answer the question , then what's your problem with the question?

Being able to answer the question is irrelevant. I can answer most questions. My issue, such as it is, is it's a contrived hypothetical situation. I don't see the relevance. Can I come up with what I'd do in some contrived situation? Yes. Does it have value? No.

I mean, look ... if you were pogo-sticking along a girder on the 47th floor of a building under construction and on the opposite side of the building on another I-beam a terrorist was shooting at a child who happened to be at the construction site - would you draw your .44 and shoot the terrorist, saving the child - even though you know the recoil from the gun would knock you and your pogo-stick off the I-beam meaning you'd fall to your death, or would you stop pogo-sticking to try and be secure and safe, allowing the terrorist to keep shooting at the child?

Who cares? I'm never going to be pogo-sticking on a girder at a construction site. I will never encounter terrorists shooting at children at one, let alone while doing so.

The issue, for me, is that the question is pointless. It's snark-bait. It's not that there's some issue you're trying to resolve like your sub won't participate in public play and for your that's a requirement. Or that it presents useful information like public play is now legal in the state of Montana (it's not, btw).

Am I willing to play in public if we both find it exciting and there's no trouble. Yes.
Am I willing to do something that would get my sub arrested or have dire consequences for her. No.

It's a no-brainer. Who do you expect would answer differently? What's the point - aside from spurring some snarky responses?

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:38:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

Hypothesis or fantasy. Only the goose knows.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:42:47 AM

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It does accomplish one thing

It allows osf to know that there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

That is all he needs to know.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:46:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

It does accomplish one thing

It allows osf to know that there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

That is all he needs to know.

Well.....no domiguy. While I obey my Master, I don't obey anyone who gives an order...you for example. That would just be stupid.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:50:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

Hm, Domi, stupid, really?

Or perhaps some us just use our smarts in choosing to submit to a D-type who won't make us do "stupid" things.

That point is like a huge part of the discussion on this thread, right?

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:53:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

Hm, Domi, stupid, really?

Or perhaps some us just use our smarts in choosing to submit to a D-type who won't make us do "stupid" things.

That point is like a huge part of the discussion on this thread, right?

with the addition of "won't do anything that would harm us"

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:04:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

Hm, Domi, stupid, really?

Or perhaps some us just use our smarts in choosing to submit to a D-type who won't make us do "stupid" things.

That point is like a huge part of the discussion on this thread, right?

with the addition of "won't do anything that would harm us"

Exactly.

And for what it's worth, i don't see the act of looking both ways when i cross the street as being disobedient - that is part of being obedient, to do things in a way which keeps me as his property safe. But the point is that i cross the street, not stand there and argue about whether it would be legally or emotionally damaging for me to do so.

Being obedient doesn't make you stupid - in more ways than one. It just means you do as you're told. i see very little drama in this.

Oh, and btw, i don't factor much into the fact that osf started this discussion - he isn't my Owner, so i'm not responding for *him* - i'm responding to the discussion in general, for my dynamic, and the man whom i serve.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:19:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: littlebitxxx

Question:
For those who are projecting that their owner is the irresponsible type:
a) that don't think of consequences....
b) that realize consequences and act anyway in a negligent manner....
c) that would demand their slave do something illegal/immoral or downright dangerous....

Why would you be with them in the first place? How could you go through the discussions and negotiations and the whole discovery "getting to know you" period and not realize that these things could happen? Why would you accept a collar or any relationship with someone that isn't compatible with your own morals/ethics and limits?

one will say that if she was in a relationship where she had to second guess His motives or intentions before obeying any order given, she's in the wrong place. That's upon her shoulders.

I'm not projecting that the Master is responsible or irresponsible. I'm simply answering the question as it was posed. If My Master ordered me to do something illegal, I'd disobey. The answer is different for others. I respect that.

Can I conceive of a situation where I'd be WITH someone who would ask that of me? To be honest, yes I can. It isn't all that far a stretch of the imagination to consider that an otherwise responsible and thoughtful person can make a poor choice for themselves or another. It happens all the time. In fact, I don't believe that every single person who has committed a crime and faced the consequences of their poor choices, was a bad or irresponsible person as a whole.

Now would I submit to a person who did not know, acknowledge and hold my hard limit as one capatible with their own limits? Nope. But, if they chose to disrespect the fundamental boundaries that made up the covenant of our relationship, I would not find it in the least wrong for me to disobey and move on.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:34:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

there are some really stupid women out there that will do anything they are told.

Hm, Domi, stupid, really?

Or perhaps some us just use our smarts in choosing to submit to a D-type who won't make us do "stupid" things.

That point is like a huge part of the discussion on this thread, right?

No offense. But it actually is not. The question is... if asked, would you do it?

Maybe he lost his mind? Maybe he hates your guts? Maybe he has found another and figures with you in jail he will be free to pursue his new peace of snatch?

The answer should be yes or no. There are obvious ramifications if you take off your clothes. Do you do it?

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:38:39 AM

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I want to know why the damn girl was ever clothed to begin with.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:43:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I want to know why the damn girl was ever clothed to begin with.

Good question, Master, why was I *grins*

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:46:53 AM

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for every act there are consequences some may be quite dire, standing out in the rain you could get struck by lightning

but the probabilities are low, so standing out in the rain isn't a problem for most

some seem to think because of x, y and not considering because of x maybe y

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 10:50:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: osf

for every act there are consequences some may be quite dire, standing out in the rain you could get struck by lightning

but the probabilities are low, so standing out in the rain isn't a problem for most

some seem to think because of x, y and not considering because of x maybe y

Deep shit...But scientist across the board have reached the universal conclusion that you are a douchenozzle.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 11:00:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
The answer should be yes or no. There are obvious ramifications if you take off your clothes. Do you do it?

i've trimmed the quotes for neatness here - and to highlight the core question...."Do you do it?"

You know, i spend a lot of time thinking about the barriers we all create between ourselves and others - barriers often created out of fear, or protectionism of our "self." There is a quote from Rumi that i love: “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”

And as a slave, the question that you ask right here, Domi, is one that i think about quite a bit - "Do you do it?" i mean, that is a core value of slavery, right, absolute obedience? And how does a slave get over her fears, and hesitations, to achieve that absolute obedience?

For me, when considering that question of, "Do you do it" in regards to anything, not just taking off my clothes in a restaurant, well i want that answer to always be "Yes." And i believe in creating an environment with my Owner in which the answer - for me - is always an unqualified "Yes."

i don't think that makes me stupid. i think that makes me someone who believes in creating an incredibly sexy and joyful relationship (ref. MercNbeth).

And i firmly believe that whatever you put out into the world is what you get back, especially in your relationships. If you put out fear and distrust, that is what you will receive in return. i choose to operate with faith and trust. i may make a mistake every now and then, but the absolute joy i receive in return is worth it.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 11:01:42 AM

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. . . Even when requesting some head, I cannot think of a single time that my sub/girlfriend didn't first look around before enjoying all that the domidong has to offer. . .

It is really annoying when you little pussy ass Doms come into a M/s thread and throw apples at oranges. The OP said “slave” it didn’t say “not-so-subbies”.

Take a tip from an old Master, if you punish that not-so-subby of yours next time she hesitates to obey or stops to look around first so she can judge whether to impose her will over yours, it may train her our of that. Then your "requests" can evolve to "commands", at which point you will be able to partake in M/s discussions with the rest of us big bad ass Masters.

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< Message edited by ResidentSadist -- 2/22/2010 11:05:54 AM >

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 11:07:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

Problem being that the goose fondler is really asking the question of owners as to who would order it knowing there ARE consequences.

You have to project that your owner IS irresponsible, say someone like osf.

Then you can answer as to whether you would do it. Do it knowing there ARE consequences, not that a 'considerate' decision has been made.

People out here have a hard time reading and comprehending.

possibly they can do one....Being a double threat out here is extremely rare. osf has posed a question where there are ramifications...You Dumb Cunts!!!!

You are in a restaurant....You take off your clothes. They call the cops. You run out of the restaurant or you go to jail....That is the scenario.

Many of you would still take off your clothes because you have absolutely nothing to lose.....Sucks to be you!

What these two said. Sad really. For too many reasons to enumerate.

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