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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 6:37:53 AM   
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Well then....I shall order the tuna...tartar.


You'll barely notice it then! You have thwarted my plans yet again....



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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 6:40:46 AM   
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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 6:42:45 AM   
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to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


Would I expect her to? Yes.

Would I........fuckin hell no! Not unless there was a VERY good reason, like......her clothes were on fire.

Contrary to popular belief I have some semblance of class and manners. I don't believe in shoving my shit in the faces of people that haven't consented to participate. Therefor, if a woman belongs to me, she will already know this. If she already knows this, she also knows that if I tell her to strip buckass naked, I have a damned good reason to do so. Not just to prove I can.

To me, it sounds like another one of those, beat your domly chest just to prove what an uberdom you are. Stupid shit.


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 6:51:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


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ORIGINAL: osf

If you told your slave...

...to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


OSF, reading your threads can be like watching the penultimate scene to Taming of the Shrew, over and over and over again. Not that I mind, in fact, I love that particular scene, but the "high" reponses ("I will intentionally miss the point of the question even if it makes me look dumb as shit because I so desperately need to villify this guy") you get in here are quite interesting as well as amusing. Your "inner daddy" seems to be bringing out all the angry rebellious teenage-girl feelings in the fem-snark population here, lol.

But what is really interesting to me is that this sort of scenario (obeying without question) has dozens, if not hundreds of mudane and totally safe counterparts in an ordinary (is there such a thing? :) ) power exchange relationship. We (submissives who are controlled in any significant way) all face these situations in which for whatever reason (horrible day at work, losing an old friend, got a traffic ticket, burned the cassarole, etc.) we are in a terrible mood and just do not want to obey the order we have just been given. In those situations it's very easy to "turn all legal" on one's dominant and find all kinds of reasons and excuses for why simply obeying him or her would be the worst thing possible and, in fact, do you irrepairable psychic damage. That's what these thread protestations remind me of: that sort of weaselly reasoning that almost all of us on occasion to get out of simply obeying. I've had a lot of experience in the slave role, but the legal-weasel mindset is still something I have to be constantly vigilant for. It starts to creep in, interestingly, when you start to feel secure around your dominant, certain he's not going to abandon you or you accidentally alienate him.

Anyway, I've highjacked this thread enough. I found it interesting however, to contrast the submissive responses in this thread to the submissive responses to those in This Thread, going on at the same time. You'd almost think two different sets of people were responding, not the same individuals. This extreme contrast in these two threads is saying something about lipsevice to ideals we all want to believe in (or believe about ourselves) vs. the actual difficult facing of hard reality.


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 7:24:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


I can imagine circumstances where such an order, as worded in the op, could be carried out without landing one’s ass in jail.

I’m confident he would not risk my being arrested, so, yes.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 7:37:22 AM   
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to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


If I ordered her to undress in a restaurant hell yes I would expect her to, just as if I ordered her to bend over so I could use her cunt or ass.

HOWEVER.

Only an idiot would order OR obey someone to do something where the consequences could be as severe as having an idiot order you to get naked in a restaurant.

If I ordered someone to get naked they sure as hell better get naked BUT she would know that I had somehow dealt with the potential consequences.  I might have taken her to a friends restaurant and filled it with kinky friends she didn't know or god knows what.  The point would be that I had proven to her time and time again that if I was going to order her to do something, that I had thought it through and wasn't some horny testosterone addled dominate who was about to get her arrested for a sex crime!

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 7:44:22 AM   
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Sure - I don't understand what the big deal is about it. We enjoyed a wonderful naked dinner the last time we dined at 'Opague'. No big deal.

I borrow a lesson learned from my Realtor. The three most important rules about any order given to a slave; "Location, location, location".

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 7:59:41 AM   
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I'm kind of torn on this.  In one instance, My almost automatic reaction is that yes, My boy would obey.  (In fact, I'm the more conservative of the two.)  At the same time, I have to wonder what in the world would possess Me to tell him to do it in the first place.

I don't spend My time trying to come up with scenarios that prove I'm Dominant or that he's submissive.  The stuff that I put any importance on, I get.  Not some silly standard that someone else comes up with.  I can come up with enough sick, twisted activities that can be accomplished in My own home.  I don't have to slam My metaphoric Dominant dick on the restaurant table to prove that Mine's bigger than yours.


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:10:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Sure - I don't understand what the big deal is about it. We enjoyed a wonderful naked dinner the last time we dined at 'Opague'. No big deal.

I borrow a lesson learned from my Realtor. The three most important rules about any order given to a slave; "Location, location, location".


... and timing?

Who said the place had to be opened for buisness? ; )

Sir knows people who own restaurants. : o

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:26:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


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ORIGINAL: osf

If you told your slave...

...to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


OSF, reading your threads can be like watching the penultimate scene to Taming of the Shrew, over and over and over again. Not that I mind, in fact, I love that particular scene, but the "high" reponses ("I will intentionally miss the point of the question even if it makes me look dumb as shit because I so desperately need to villify this guy") you get in here are quite interesting as well as amusing. Your "inner daddy" seems to be bringing out all the angry rebellious teenage-girl feelings in the fem-snark population here, lol.

But what is really interesting to me is that this sort of scenario (obeying without question) has dozens, if not hundreds of mudane and totally safe counterparts in an ordinary (is there such a thing? :) ) power exchange relationship. We (submissives who are controlled in any significant way) all face these situations in which for whatever reason (horrible day at work, losing an old friend, got a traffic ticket, burned the cassarole, etc.) we are in a terrible mood and just do not want to obey the order we have just been given. In those situations it's very easy to "turn all legal" on one's dominant and find all kinds of reasons and excuses for why simply obeying him or her would be the worst thing possible and, in fact, do you irrepairable psychic damage. That's what these thread protestations remind me of: that sort of weaselly reasoning that almost all of us on occasion to get out of simply obeying. I've had a lot of experience in the slave role, but the legal-weasel mindset is still something I have to be constantly vigilant for. It starts to creep in, interestingly, when you start to feel secure around your dominant, certain he's not going to abandon you or you accidentally alienate him.





First off.....osf's "inner daddy" electrocuted himself years ago...While in the tub he was pondering, "what if I drop this toaster into the bathtub?

Secondly, Your post was weak. The majority of what we do usually does not include others. We usually do not have people we don't know or who are not consenting to our thang participate. Sabe?

Why would a sub "turn all legal" when I request her to do something?....suck my cock, cook some food, give me a back rub, eat out subsusie....Especially when it is being done in private...What the fuck?

I didn't read the whole thing but I didn't see too many posts where people talked about "irreparable" psychic damage". Unless they were talking about the possible long term effects of reading too many osf posts.

I have fucked outside, gotten blowjobs by the Lake front, fingered and rammed toys up some holes under a skirt or in the shadows of darkness. Was there a possibility in getting caught?...Very remote. Most were done at night where no children were present.

The longer I stay on these forums the more I conclude that too many of you fuckers are nuts. Even when requesting some head, I cannot think of a single time that my sub/girlfriend didn't first look around before enjoying all that the domidong has to offer.

You don't think that your Dom would ever put you in harms way? How could someone ever reach that conclusion? Of course he would!!! Don't you people read these forums!! These people are idiots!!! Nuts...Bonkers...Morons!!! So many of you are insufferable douchenozzles, pretty much damaged beyond repair. No one can fix you. You be broke.

I really do believe that a grave number of women out here who say that they will blindly follow some dude have absolutely nothing to lose. Nothing. They have pissed it all away...They are crazy. And let's face facts here, crazy attracts crazy.

"Crazy,
Over the rainbow, you are crazy,
Bars in the window.
There must have been a door there in the wall
When you came in.
Crazy, over the rainbow, you are crazy."


I expect my sub to do as she is told....When I tell her to cross the street....She better get her fat ass across the fucking street. She would also be a complete fucking idiot if she didn't look both ways before doing so. I might have not seen that truck...Or maybe I am just so fucking excited to watch her fat ass go across the street that I didn't really think out the ramifications if she were to be hit.

I hate all of you......................Yay!!!




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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:32:58 AM   
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to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


Only a low IQ slave with a moron for a owner would do this. Owners are supposed to protect their property, this is an example of NOT protecting the property. Owners are supposed to THINK ahead, this is an example of not thinking ahead.

Had too much sugar today?

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:33:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy


quote:

ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

If you told your slave...

...to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


OSF, reading your threads can be like watching the penultimate scene to Taming of the Shrew, over and over and over again. Not that I mind, in fact, I love that particular scene, but the "high" reponses ("I will intentionally miss the point of the question even if it makes me look dumb as shit because I so desperately need to villify this guy") you get in here are quite interesting as well as amusing. Your "inner daddy" seems to be bringing out all the angry rebellious teenage-girl feelings in the fem-snark population here, lol.

But what is really interesting to me is that this sort of scenario (obeying without question) has dozens, if not hundreds of mudane and totally safe counterparts in an ordinary (is there such a thing? :) ) power exchange relationship. We (submissives who are controlled in any significant way) all face these situations in which for whatever reason (horrible day at work, losing an old friend, got a traffic ticket, burned the cassarole, etc.) we are in a terrible mood and just do not want to obey the order we have just been given. In those situations it's very easy to "turn all legal" on one's dominant and find all kinds of reasons and excuses for why simply obeying him or her would be the worst thing possible and, in fact, do you irrepairable psychic damage. That's what these thread protestations remind me of: that sort of weaselly reasoning that almost all of us on occasion to get out of simply obeying. I've had a lot of experience in the slave role, but the legal-weasel mindset is still something I have to be constantly vigilant for. It starts to creep in, interestingly, when you start to feel secure around your dominant, certain he's not going to abandon you or you accidentally alienate him.





First off.....osf's "inner daddy" electrocuted himself years ago...While in the tub he was pondering, "what if I drop this toaster into the bathtub?

Secondly, Your post was weak. The majority of what we do usually does not include others. We usually do not have people we don't know or who are not consenting to our thang participate. Sabe?

Why would a sub "turn all legal" when I request her to do something?....suck my cock, cook some food, give me a back rub, eat out subsusie....Especially when it is being done in private...What the fuck?

I didn't read the whole thing but I didn't see too many posts where people talked about "irreparable" psychic damage". Unless they were talking about the possible long term effects of reading too many osf posts.

I have fucked outside, gotten blowjobs by the Lake front, fingered and rammed toys up some holes under a skirt or in the shadows of darkness. Was there a possibility in getting caught?...Very remote. Most were done at night where no children were present.

The longer I stay on these forums the more I conclude that too many of you fuckers are nuts. Even when requesting some head, I cannot think of a single time that my sub/girlfriend didn't first look around before enjoying all that the domidong has to offer.

You don't think that your Dom would ever put you in harms way? How could someone ever reach that conclusion? Of course he would!!! Don't you people read these forums!! These people are idiots!!! Nuts...Bonkers...Morons!!! So many of you are insufferable douchenozzles, pretty much damaged beyond repair. No one can fix you. You be broke.

I really do believe that a grave number of women out here who say that they will blindly follow some dude have absolutely nothing to lose. Nothing. They have pissed it all away...They are crazy. And let's face facts here, crazy attracts crazy.

"Crazy,
Over the rainbow, you are crazy,
Bars in the window.
There must have been a door there in the wall
When you came in.
Crazy, over the rainbow, you are crazy."


I expect my sub to do as she is told....When I tell her to cross the street....She better get her fat ass across the fucking street. She would also be a complete fucking idiot if she didn't look both ways before doing so. I might have not seen that truck...Or maybe I am just so fucking excited to watch her fat ass go across the street that I didn't really think out the ramifications if she were to be hit.

I hate all of you......................Yay!!!






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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:37:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Sure - I don't understand what the big deal is about it. We enjoyed a wonderful naked dinner the last time we dined at 'Opague'. No big deal.

I borrow a lesson learned from my Realtor. The three most important rules about any order given to a slave; "Location, location, location".


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:39:11 AM   
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Only a low IQ slave with a moron for a owner would do this. Owners are supposed to protect their property, this is an example of NOT protecting the property. Owners are supposed to THINK ahead, this is an example of not thinking ahead.

I agree, and I feel badly (only a little bit) for the girl who gets stuck this sort of situation.  Talk about being a dumb dom.


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:50:07 AM   
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to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


Fast reply
Based on the question as it stands
Without reading anything else into it
Standard disclaimers apply

Yes, He would.

Now, from this side of the kneel (again standard disclaimers apply and based on the question as it stands):

Yes, she would.

In *this* relationship, all the arguments for or against such actions are moot points.  He says, she obeys. 

moot [adj] :   resolved and thus not worthy of further discussion. 


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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:50:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


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some of us do......LOL

agirl



May I ask you if your Owner has ever asked you to take off your clothes in a public restaurant?
What if there were children around?
What if you knew and he knew you would be arrested?

I mean, you say with such conviction that you would do it no questions asked.


As I said in my first comment on the thread * knowing the man as I do, the consequences would not be steep*.

All the *what if's* don't matter ....You automatically think of negative *what if's* and I don't because I am fully aware of the man that I belong to. I don't have to wonder about these things for that reason.

No, he hasn't ordered me to do that particular thing, but he has other things. I would......because I KNOW him and KNOW there wouldn't be negative consequences for me.


As you said....... Or those Masters who would never do it unless in a socially acceptable place and they do think of consequences.....

Hence I would obey.........It's not posturing , it's a matter of fact.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 8:53:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cpK69


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ORIGINAL: osf

to undress in a restaurant would you expect her to regardless of the consequences?


I can imagine circumstances where such an order, as worded in the op, could be carried out without landing one’s ass in jail.

I’m confident he would not risk my being arrested, so, yes.

Kim



Problem being that the goose fondler is really asking the question of owners as to who would order it knowing there ARE consequences.
 
You have to project that your owner IS irresponsible, say someone like osf.
 
Then you can answer as to whether you would do it. Do it knowing there ARE consequences, not that a 'considerate' decision has been made.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:09:38 AM   
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I don't think using reason and common sense regarding legal ramifications is weasely.  Fact is, one of my few hard limits is anything illegal.  It makes my choice simple.

Obey - risk legal repercussions
Disobey - risk ending the relationship

My Master tells me to swallow that balloon filled with heroin before boarding the plane.  Do I obey regardless of consequences?
Hell no.

My Master tells me to coerce that pretty little under age thing into getting into the car so he can take her home.  Do I obey regardless of consequences?
Hell the fuck no.

Its simple really. 

But, I'm the first to admit I make a very bad slave.  I suck at it.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:18:19 AM   
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Dude, you can put an eye with one of those things! Especially when they're all pointy and you... nevermind.

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RE: If you told your slave - 2/22/2010 9:19:53 AM   
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I don't think using reason and common sense regarding legal ramifications is weasely.  Fact is, one of my few hard limits is anything illegal.  It makes my choice simple.

Obey - risk legal repercussions
Disobey - risk ending the relationship

My Master tells me to swallow that balloon filled with heroin before boarding the plane.  Do I obey regardless of consequences?
Hell no.

My Master tells me to coerce that pretty little under age thing into getting into the car so he can take her home.  Do I obey regardless of consequences?
Hell the fuck no.

Its simple really. 

But, I'm the first to admit I make a very bad slave.  I suck at it.


But what is the likelihood you would be with...or at least stay with such a man?  Here's the thing, I doubt my Master would order me to strip in a restaurant, he's not stupid and knows what the consequences could be. So if he did, I would trust him and do it.


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