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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 7:15:05 AM

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I have to warn everybody, I'm one of those moderate in the middle kind of guys. If it were up to me, I'd Hacksaw the ass ends off both the Donkey and Elephant, and come up with two headed Animal that could think straight and would'nt shit all all over the place.

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 7:21:24 AM

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The thing about Bush is, he was Bush. He never promised us the most open administration ever. His record on public speaking is nothing to compare, because he ran as who he was and he was elected as who he was, like him or not.

Obama ran as an uber elite super genius who would provide the most transparent administration ever. But what is he delivering? The exact opposite of that.

Keep on saying B-b-b-b-ush if you want, but Bush ain't the subject, and neither am I.

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 7:21:27 AM

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Sanity, do you really want to start comparing the two in this manner? Knoller keeps detailed records and isnt afraid to share them. Lets take for example vacations...

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President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president, according to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller.

President Reagan, in 1981, spent all or part of 42 days away from the White House "on vacation" at his home in Santa Barbara, Calif, according to Knoller

President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.

Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush, spent less time "on vacation" during his first year than his son, but spent more days than President Obama. According to travel records provided to FactCheck.org by the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum, the former president took six trips — spanning all or part of 40 days — to the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1989. The archivist at Bush’s presidential library told us she didn’t have a list of all vacations but did have the Kennebunkport visits.

But at least two recent presidents — by Knoller’s count — took less "vacation" time during their first year than President Obama — Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

According to Knoller, Carter spent just 19 days "on vacation" in 1977. Most of that time, Knoller says, the former president spent at his home in Plains, Ga. President Clinton took all or part of 174 days of vacation during his eight years as president — most of that "vacation" time was during the summer, according to Knoller. But Knoller says Clinton only took 21 "vacation" days during his first year.

It’s worth mentioning that President Obama has also made 11 trips — all or part of 27 days — to Camp David, the presidential retreat in Frederick County, Md. Knoller, however, says he doesn’t count trips to Camp David as part of any presidents’ "vacation" time. But for the sake of comparison, President George W. Bush, made more trips to that country residence than Obama. According to Knoller, Bush made 25 trips — a total of 78 days — to Camp David in 2001.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 7:37:10 AM

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You may as well just admit it - Bush was a better public speaker than Obama is.

Not that was funny.

Bushisms - Top 10 Stupid Bush Quotes

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000(Listen to audio clip)

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

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Bush Quotes - Top 50 Dumb Bush Quotes of All Time

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 7:46:53 AM

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Well if you're making that type of comparison, noone I've seen compares to Dan Quayle -

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy -- but that could change."

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 8:21:59 AM

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I don't know, myself I think the difference is that Quayle did not have the power Bush did. It is funny, but it is also scary to hear someone who was setting the nation's policies who could not even articulate those policies:

Complete Anthology of Bushisms

"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008

"This thaw -- took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to unthaw." --George W. Bush, on liquidity in the markets, Alexandria, La., Oct. 20, 2008

"Anyone engaging in illegal financial transactions will be caught and persecuted." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2008

"And they have no disregard for human life." --George W. Bush, on the brutality of Afghan fighters, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 8:47:26 AM

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So its the messenger thats at fault. The Times failed put your own personal spin on it...

Got it...

A little curious that all of your "messengers" seem to carry the same "message".....no Sanity its not the Times fault it is your cherrypicking of selected pieces,designed solely to grind your own little axe.But in all fairness this is of course to be expected....you are on the outside looking in with nothing to do but throw your little rocks.
The bitching of the dissafected is ,at least in your case,quite humorous....carry on sanity ,if nothing else you are entertaining

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 8:59:38 AM

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Maybe its just me... hmmm... i dont recall any other President going before the "other side" in a question and answer session... oh wait... thats not the samr thing.... televised... non rehersed... but its not "formal"

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 9:00:20 AM

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Wait, Sanity!!!!

Its said, by many, Obama hasn't beat Bush in the amount of vacation time put in. Guess you'd call Obama a slacker for that?

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 9:06:03 AM

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The thing about Bush is, he was Bush.

Starting your own list of idiotic quotes?

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 9:26:00 AM

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You may as well just admit it - Bush was a better public speaker than Obama is.

I never thought I would see those words together, thanks for the chuckle

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 11:04:03 AM

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Obama trumped all your "Bushisms" combined when at his most recent press conference our supposedly "post-racial" president proved how race-centric he actually is by attacking that white Boston policeman before all the facts were in.

He was so embarrassed by that massive blunder that he hasn't held a press conference ever since.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

You may as well just admit it - Bush was a better public speaker than Obama is.

Not that was funny.

Bushisms - Top 10 Stupid Bush Quotes

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000(Listen to audio clip)

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

See Also:

Bush Quote Generator

Bush Quotes - Top 50 Dumb Bush Quotes of All Time

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 11:26:36 AM

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 11:53:41 AM

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 11:54:48 AM

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The thing about Bush is, he was Bush. He never promised us the most open administration ever. His record on public speaking is nothing to compare, because he ran as who he was and he was elected as who he was, like him or not.

Actually he ran on the message that he would "restore honor and dignity to the White House."

I guess you could make teh argument that he restored honor and dignity to teh structure every time he left for one of his vacations but otherwise....

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 1:04:41 PM

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C'mon Sanity.

The double standard is beautiful. The president of hope and change enjoys the best of both arguments. When it comes to national security, "we are following the same procedures as the Bush administration." When it comes to information getting out "we control the message" and why would they want to subject the president to random questions that could come from the press pool.

I really like the way they are handling the "no torture" pledge. I am not sure if it is that they are doing things like the last administration or if they are counting having Afghanis and Pakistanis doing the torturing as a different policy.

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 1:19:11 PM

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The thing about Bush is, he was Bush.

Starting your own list of idiotic quotes?

He's just explaining why everybody hates the guy.

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 2:43:46 PM

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Apparently, Obama's handlers do. Otherwise they would let him do another press conference. How many has he had total, one? Maybe two?

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 2:45:28 PM

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why would someone who doesn't give a flying fuck, bother to comment?

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RE: B-b-b-b-ut Bush did the same thing!!! - 2/22/2010 2:46:33 PM

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so, his handlers called you and said that they were not allowing him to do a news conference, or did imelt subliminally suggest it via SNL skit or what?

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