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Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:16:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved The god of the old testament is the god of the new. Which god of the Old Testament? He most certainly was not, unless according to the magical paradigm. In fact, even the New Testament is outdated. People had better listen to my counsel: Accept disease and death and do not circumcise your male population. (Hm, that is actually what the Christians have been saying all along.) And he's off...

Jeffff -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:17:28 PM)
Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son" Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on" God say, "No." Abe say, "What ?" God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but The next time you see me comin' you better run" Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done ?" God says. "Out on Highway 61".

Rule -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:27:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today. In December 2009 16 year old Medine Memi was buried alive and died in a two meter deep hole in Turkey because she had befriended some boys. Her body was found with swallowed earth in her stomach and lungs and her father and grandfather were arrested this February. That craziness is what you eventually get in a culture where the population circumcises their males.

Thadius -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:31:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today. In December 2009 16 year old Medine Memi was buried alive and died in a two meter deep hole in Turkey because she had befriended some boys. Her body was found with swallowed earth in her stomach and lungs and her father and grandfather were arrested this February. That craziness is what you eventually get in a culture when the population circumcises their males. The fact that the father and grandfather were arrested shows that society isn't just sitting around and watching this happen. So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not? I am almost afraid to ask that question.

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:31:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today. In December 2009 16 year old Medine Memi was buried alive and died in a two meter deep hole in Turkey because she had befriended some boys. Her body was found with swallowed earth in her stomach and lungs and her father and grandfather were arrested this February. That craziness is what you eventually get in a culture where the population circumcises their males. No, this craziness is what you get in a culture where they think it's still the fourteenth century. They'd still be horribly misogynistic wankers if they were all uncut. (edited for rectitude)

BLoved -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:53:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius And so God is willing to smite those that displease him, the book itself quotes him as saying as much. Is it his failure, or is it humanity's? Well this is where I am reminded of the forgiving god of love we hear about in the new testament. Does a loving father "smite" his child because he is displeased? Or does a loving father teach his child with patience and understanding?

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:55:30 PM)
The latter. Unless he's a mooslim, of course.

Rule -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 1:57:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not? Circumcision protects to some degree against various sexually transmitted diseases, especially in the hotter climates. That results in circumcised males and their partners having a higher reproductive success, as they do not suffer as much from the debilitating or sterilizing or lethal effects of such diseases. Thus it becomes evolutionary advantageous to continue circumcising their males. However, at the same time as a population they become relatively more vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases; whereas non-circumcising populations evolve to become relatively more resistant against sexually transmitted diseases (since their vulnerable individuals have been removed by natural selection). Thus circumcising populations have both a huge vulnerability for sexually transmitted diseases and will have a better reproductive success from any other behavior that limits the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Vectors of such diseases are homosexuals and adulterous females. Thus repressing both groups is evolutionarily advantageous to populations that circumcise their males. That is why such populations murder adulterous females, stoning them to death, burying or burning them alive, slitting their throats and drowning them in wells. Evolution may even make such behavior not only cultural, but instinctual, given sufficient time. The same switch to this kind of 'honor killings' of females will occur in the USA in about a hundred years if they persist in circumcising their males. They are all doomed.

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:00:01 PM)
Because, of course, the jews have been into honour killing for centuries. That's why everybody hates them, isn't it?

mnottertail -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:00:30 PM)
that is a large crock of bullshit.

Thadius -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:01:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius And so God is willing to smite those that displease him, the book itself quotes him as saying as much. Is it his failure, or is it humanity's? Well this is where I am reminded of the forgiving god of love we hear about in the new testament. Does a loving father "smite" his child because he is displeased? Or does a loving father teach his child with patience and understanding? You hear about that same forgiving god in the OT, remember all of those sacrifices in exchange for forgiveness? Which brings us to the connection of the OT to the NT that sacrifice is all that really changed. I seem to remember somebody saying that I am not here to change the law.

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:01:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not? Circumcision protects to some degree against various sexually transmitted diseases, especially in the hotter climates. That results in circumcised males and their partners having a higher reproductive success, as they do not suffer as much from the debilitating or sterilizing or lethal effects of such diseases. Thus it becomes evolutionary advantageous to continue circumcising their males. However, at the same time as a population they become relatively more vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases; whereas non-circumcising populations evolve to become relatively more resistant against sexually transmitted diseases (since their vulnerable individuals have been removed by natural selection). Thus circumcising populations have both a huge vulnerability for sexually transmitted diseases and will have a better reproductive success from any other behavior that limits the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Vectors of such diseases are homosexuals and adulterous females. Thus repressing both groups is evolutionarily advantageous to populations that circumcise their males. That is why such populations murder adulterous females, stoning them to death, burying or burning them alive, slitting their throats and drowning them in wells. Evolution may even make such behavior not only cultural, but instinctual, given sufficient time. The same switch to this kind of 'honor killings' of females will occur in the USA in about a hundred years if they persist in circumcising their males. They are all doomed. What happens if you were circumcised for medical reasons? I had it done because I was dripping on my shoes when I took a piss.

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:02:58 PM)
And now I think about it, didn't all of this "minimal protection against vd" shite go out the window the second they invented prophylactics? Still, I suppose in a country where the Lawd abhors sex education and safe sex, that's irrelevant.

mnottertail -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:04:25 PM)
well, mr. depraved and insane by reason of circumcision honor killer, how did you choose the name moonhead and how many women have you killed you horrid being? Dr. Faustus

Thadius -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:04:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not? Circumcision protects to some degree against various sexually transmitted diseases, especially in the hotter climates. That results in circumcised males and their partners having a higher reproductive success, as they do not suffer as much from the debilitating or sterilizing or lethal effects of such diseases. Thus it becomes evolutionary advantageous to continue circumcising their males. However, at the same time as a population they become relatively more vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases; whereas non-circumcising populations evolve to become relatively more resistant against sexually transmitted diseases (since their vulnerable individuals have been removed by natural selection). Thus circumcising populations have both a huge vulnerability for sexually transmitted diseases and will have a better reproductive success from any other behavior that limits the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Vectors of such diseases are homosexuals and adulterous females. Thus repressing both groups is evolutionarily advantageous to populations that circumcise their males. That is why such populations murder adulterous females, stoning them to death, burying or burning them alive, slitting their throats and drowning them in wells. Evolution may even make such behavior not only cultural, but instinctual, given sufficient time. The same switch to this kind of 'honor killings' of females will occur in the USA in about a hundred years if they persist in circumcising their males. They are all doomed. After reading this post, I know what my instincts are suggesting I do.

Rule -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:05:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Because, of course, the jews have been into honour killing for centuries. That's why everybody hates them, isn't it? I do not know that Jews are hated. I do know that Saint Paul, who knew them far better than I, called them not circumcised of heart, which I interpret as them often being evil. I also know that Jesus, in the scene with the adulterous woman, taught the Jews not to murder adulterous females.

Rule -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:06:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail that is a large crock of bullshit. Oh? Why?

mnottertail -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:07:00 PM)
so, now we got uncircumsized hearts which are evil and circumsized dinks which are..... so it is a matter of where you cut, right?

Moonhead -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:07:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail well, mr. depraved and insane by reason of circumcision honor killer, how did you choose the name moonhead and how many women have you killed you horrid being? Dr. Faustus It's a Thin White Rope album (and you can see the penile fixation arising from a sense of loss there for a start, can't you?) Do you think I keep count?

mnottertail -> RE: About the "Flood" ... (2/22/2010 2:08:45 PM)
show me causal linkage to killing women and circumcision, or barring that, unkilled women and foreskins all over.

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