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UniqueRaven -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:07:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches Its interesting that my profile got a lot of hits and emails offering service. Good luck with those. i see that you've only been here four days. [;)] And this was the real reason for this thread, yes? i don't see that you were really here seeking a thoughtful discussion of "Old Fashioned Slavery." Yet another reason i identify as "slave-wired" instead of "true slave" in my search - to avoid this sort of thing. The right Owner for me will know what i am, and that's all that matters. These sorts of "Real Slavery" interactions, in my years of experience, tend to burn out fast and hard - and never go well. i truly wish you the best of luck.

mnottertail -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:12:40 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq-Ru6kQhE4 You mean Ludicrous Fantasy like this, Kaiel? Ron

antinomy -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:13:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches How do you feel about old fashioned slavery? The kind of slavery that was true slavery in the world for thousands of years. You are property and your only goal in life is to please your Master/Mistress. Old fashioned slavery? I'm assuming you are talking chattel slavery- the enforced servitude of one person to another, where the slave has no rights? How do I feel about it? How do YOU feel about it? Since enforced servitude takes decision out of the process. If someone were to force YOU to serve them, someone you did not give authority over you, do you think you'd be warm and fuzzy about it? Still think it's a great idea when you YOU are the one being enslaved? Or your children? Or your parents? It's a world away from anything that even you are considering, as your would-be slaves are seeking service. "Old fashioned" slaves had no such luxury.

Kaiel -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:19:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq-Ru6kQhE4 You mean Ludicrous Fantasy like this, Kaiel? Ron I do like that video... but not exactly what I was speaking of :)

mnottertail -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:22:11 AM)
Nah, maybe I was having one of my own (Ludicrous Fantasy) when I perved. Ron

lizi -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:28:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches Thanks for the replies. I expected to be attacked. Pulling out Gloria Steinem really made me smile. Its interesting that my profile got a lot of hits and emails offering service. So, are those who offer to serve also to be attacked? I'm sure the Nigerians are lining up in your email offering slavery galore. That really isn't proof that anyone genuine is interested in your 6 sentence profile which lacks pictures and interests. Realistically what living breathing woman would be willing to sign her life away on 6 sentences and nothing else? They don't know what you look like, what conditions you'll keep them in, what they are expected to do...they're just supposed to offer themselves up. As CarrieO pointed out you state you won't even answer questions and you state in your profile that you just want someone to willingly adopt you as their instant Master and offer service to you with not a single bit of information about yourself. Right....I have a hard time thinking any of the inquiries are genuine. The word I highlighted in the quote above...offer....negates the concept of slavery in historical terms as posed in your OP. By saying someone would 'offer' you their service, without getting a thing out of it for themselves, means they can't be a slave in the terms you originally set out.

Smutmonger -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:43:50 AM)
They do burn out very quickly. Most start with people who have a fantasy basis of "how it works" to begin with Raven. It's set up to be a train wreck from the get go with that approach. Owner types are often intuitive empaths.Which is a communication match for owned as well. You pick up a great deal from nuances,body language and energy fields. I love these sorts of subtle interactions. Especially when you see someone who wants so much to overcome to please-and how they sometimes so willingly endure suffering and emotional discomfort to go there. I could not engage in these interactions without the element of choice being available. My conscience would wreak havoc on my desire. I think this is the main difference between real slavery-and what we do. quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches Its interesting that my profile got a lot of hits and emails offering service. Good luck with those. i see that you've only been here four days. [;)] And this was the real reason for this thread, yes? i don't see that you were really here seeking a thoughtful discussion of "Old Fashioned Slavery." Yet another reason i identify as "slave-wired" instead of "true slave" in my search - to avoid this sort of thing. The right Owner for me will know what i am, and that's all that matters. These sorts of "Real Slavery" interactions, in my years of experience, tend to burn out fast and hard - and never go well. i truly wish you the best of luck.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 8:56:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches How do you feel about old fashioned slavery? The kind of slavery that was true slavery in the world for thousands of years. You are property and your only goal in life is to please your Master/Mistress. this slave isn't too crazy about the "serve or DIE" aspect that is so prevalent in the old fashioned slavery model that you speak of---but the part about being His property and pleasing Him being this slave's goal is right up her alley.[:)]

mnottertail -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:13:03 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgRP_fDcp9Q

SimplyMichael -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:14:27 AM)
"old fashioned slavery"? How many times did slaves cuckhold their masters, murder their families, overthrow governments, revolt, and bitch slap idiots. You might stop reading wanking material and google "slave revolt"...but it would require typing with your right hand so I would wipe it off first.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:24:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smutmonger My conscience would wreak havoc on my desire. I think this is the main difference between real slavery-and what we do. Yeah. I find begging and forced sex hot hot hot, but I doubt I could get, or maintain, an erection, if the woman was pleading, "No, please don't," and she really meant it.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:29:11 AM)
What we call slavery is the exact opposite of what "real" slavery represents. Using force, law, society, and other means to control someone is about controlling their external behavior and is meaningless. Now, controlling someone's INTERNAL behavior is an entirely different matter. It requires inspiring a desire to actually be obedient, not forcing them to fake it.

OwnsBitches -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:32:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael "old fashioned slavery"? How many times did slaves cuckhold their masters, murder their families, overthrow governments, revolt, and bitch slap idiots. You might stop reading wanking material and google "slave revolt"...but it would require typing with your right hand so I would wipe it off first. Left handed.

GreedyTop -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 9:46:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael "old fashioned slavery"? How many times did slaves cuckhold their masters, murder their families, overthrow governments, revolt, and bitch slap idiots. You might stop reading wanking material and google "slave revolt"...but it would require typing with your right hand so I would wipe it off first. Left handed. 'nuff said.

OwnsBitches -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:08:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael What we call slavery is the exact opposite of what "real" slavery represents. Using force, law, society, and other means to control someone is about controlling their external behavior and is meaningless. Now, controlling someone's INTERNAL behavior is an entirely different matter. It requires inspiring a desire to actually be obedient, not forcing them to fake it. What you call inspiring could be called mind control. Anyone heard of the Stockholm Snydrome.

GreedyTop -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:10:19 AM)
Stockholm syndrome is removing the consensual aspect of slavery that is assumed in this 'lifestyle'. edited to recapture that wayward L and beat it within inches of its life, nonconsenually.. damned runaway letters.

mnottertail -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:11:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches What you call inspiring could be called mind control. Anyone heard of the Stockholm Snydrome. Did you mean Tom Snyder?

jujubeeMB -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:28:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OwnsBitches Its interesting that my profile got a lot of hits and emails offering service. LOL [:)]

Missokyst -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:36:40 AM)
We are all true slaves to taxes and death. Anything else is just overkill. But, if slavery makes you happy, go for it.

Jeffff -> RE: Old fashioned slavery (2/24/2010 10:46:58 AM)
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