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Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/27/2010 1:35:19 PM)

The problem, Bill, is when people view a correlation of data as cause and effect.

It wouldn't surprise me to find more liberal atheists among high IQ folk than not. To suppose, though, that high IQ leads to liberal/atheist or that being a liberal/atheist promotes high IQ is just an unsupported jump.

For example, we can probably find a correlation between jazz musicians and musicians living in large cities. That doesn't mean the two are necessarily causally connected--just that big cities is where the jazz is primarily.





GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/27/2010 1:49:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dominatist
What people hate is the...God of wars.

I'm not terribly fond of the god of pedopriests either, seems like knocking up a 13 year old virgin without her consent wasn't a good example to set.




GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/27/2010 2:01:11 PM)

I have a funnier example of correlation not equaling causation: http://archinte.highwire.org/cgi/content/extract/161/5/772

Turns out that ice cream sales are directly propaganda to drowning deaths. So I guess ice cream must cause drowning. [:D]




GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/27/2010 2:58:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dominasola

Although slightly tangential,  I think that it might be interesting to speculate what might happen in the next 10-20 years, when the children of these atheists are grown adults themselves.


Atheism in the modern sense has been around since the 18th century, it's nothing new. We know that the children of atheists are generally atheists.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/27/2010 4:00:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain
A similar study was on CNN news yesterday, February 26. I highlighted, in bold, the areas I found interesting.  I think the paranoia explains why religious people are more likely to resort to violence, start wars as well as go hunting.


That article, refers to the study that I posted. It is not another studyl

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ORIGINAL: Brain
Liberalism, atheism, male sexual exclusivity linked to IQ


There is no need to post things this large in a forum. Sometimes subtle gets a point across much more efficiently ;-)

- LA




GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/27/2010 4:10:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Turns out that ice cream sales are directly propaganda to drowning deaths.


That should read proportional.....note to self don't drink and post.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/27/2010 4:13:33 PM)

Either way it's an amazing fact to write down for future reference. Say that at a dinner party and you'll have their attention.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/27/2010 4:23:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Dominasola

Although slightly tangential,  I think that it might be interesting to speculate what might happen in the next 10-20 years, when the children of these atheists are grown adults themselves.


Atheism in the modern sense has been around since the 18th century, it's nothing new. We know that the children of atheists are generally atheists.


Although Atheism really began to grow during the Age of Enlightenment the 18th century, the term atheism originated in 16th century France at the end of the Renaissance with criticisms of Christianity.

Also, atheistic ideas go back in history much further than that to Classical antiquity. Diagoras "the Atheist" was a Greek poet and sophist of the 5th century BCE. Even Socrates was accused of being amongst other things, an atheist, and was sentenced to death.

Many Indian faiths reject the idea of God the creator from their inception, including Hindusism and Buddhism. They prefer to venerate a philosopher than a God.

- LA




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/27/2010 4:24:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Turns out that ice cream sales are directly propaganda to drowning deaths.


That should read proportional.....note to self don't drink and post.


That was an interesting slip of the tongue... or finger rather ;-)

- LA




GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/28/2010 7:22:33 AM)

Actually that was spell check letting me down.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/28/2010 7:38:52 AM)

Nonetheless, I found the irony of it all quite delicious :-) How many use research results to fuel propaganda?

- LA




NihilusZero -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/28/2010 8:23:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Dominasola

Although slightly tangential,  I think that it might be interesting to speculate what might happen in the next 10-20 years, when the children of these atheists are grown adults themselves.


Atheism in the modern sense has been around since the 18th century, it's nothing new. We know that the children of atheists are generally atheists.

Maybe.

People choose to describe themselves as atheists for numerous reasons and arrive at that conclusion through numerous ways.

The underlying characteristic that makes for this possibility is whether atheists continue to prioritize critical thinking as a valuable intellectual commodity and steer their children to being able to wield skills in that department. That usually is enough to put theism into the "questionable" box.




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