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Smutmonger -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:35:45 PM)


They represent the dead hand of an obsolete past-restraining the forward prorgress of man.


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

'Conservatism' aims to preserve what is already established and a strong opposition to change. That's why so many conservatives actually feed the forces of reaction with their deep inner fears. And try and fuck up the whole world for the rest of us. The fucking bastards.





kittinSol -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:39:13 PM)

Yes. And they can't laugh at themselves. Ever. The true sign of a conservative is the inability to self-deprecate. No wonder it's so easy for us evil libewal commies to feel condescending towards those social inadequates.




domiguy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:40:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

'Conservatism' aims to preserve what is already established and a strong opposition to change. That's why so many conservatives actually feed the forces of reaction with their deep inner fears. And try and fuck up the whole world for the rest of us. The fucking bastards.


They are also socially inept. I read a recent statistic that only two percent of the conservatives on CM have touched a woman in the last eighteen months, fifty percent of those reported that the woman they touched was a Pro Domme.

I was incredibly surprised....I thought the percentages would have been much lower.




Jeffff -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:41:05 PM)

I recently saw a study that showed conservative have tiny penises.


I will look for the link.

Jeff




kittinSol -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:42:07 PM)

Have you ever been with a con, domiguy? What's it like [&:] ?




thishereboi -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:42:24 PM)

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No wonder it's so easy for us evil libewal commies to feel condescending towards those social inadequates.


Well at least you are honest enough to admit you do it.[8|]




Thadius -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:43:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Have you ever been with a con, domiguy? What's it like [&:] ?

C'mon down for the weekend, and find out for yourself.[8D]




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:44:07 PM)

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They are also socially inept. I read a recent statistic that only two percent of the conservatives on CM have touched a woman in the last eighteen months, fifty percent of those reported that the woman they touched was a Pro Domme.


Right-wing fundamentalist conservative subs are a hard limit! ;-)

- LA




Vendaval -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:45:45 PM)

Greetings Lady A,

Is the study measuring intelligence or the ability or adapt combined with the attitude of an open and curious mind?  Do homo sapiens need to keep evolving on a mental level or have we already gone far enough?  What is the best methodology for the survival of the individual, the group and the species?
  [sm=book.gif]






domiguy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:49:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Have you ever been with a con, domiguy? What's it like [&:] ?


I have. It was amazing. She was a contrast in emotions...She hated negroes, loved Fox, hated Tim Robbins, loved Palin, hated Muslims, loved Hannity, Hated Allah, loved the j-dude, Hated anal but didn't mind catching an occasional snack at the "Y"....It was fun watching her dine.




juliaoceania -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:51:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I recently saw a study that showed conservative have tiny penises.


I will look for the link.

Jeff


I read a study that said that their data was incorrect, and that even though they at first thought conservative penises were small, when they crunched the data they found that their penises were actually tiny, maybe even minuscule, but we will have to wait for the new report




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:54:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Greetings Lady A,

Is the study measuring intelligence or the ability or adapt combined with the attitude of an open and curious mind?


The study isn't measuring intellience. It found a statistically significantly correlation that "more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles".

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Do homo sapiens need to keep evolving on a mental level or have we already gone far enough? 

Well my own opinion is that we really need to keep evolving. We haven't even really scratched the surface.

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What is the best methodology for the survival of the individual, the group and the species?  [sm=book.gif]

How about we stop repeating history for starters... ?

- LA






Vendaval -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:57:08 PM)

That would be a great beginning, but I am afraid each generation seems to learn best by failing rather than by success.   [sm=banghead.gif]

BTW, the first question was more rhetorical than literal.





juliaoceania -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:57:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Have you ever been with a con, domiguy? What's it like [&:] ?


I dated a conservative... we got to know each other over several months, and I was able to ignore most of the drivel that came out of his mouth because he was very good looking, a jarhead actually. I overlooked his conservatism because he hid the most obnoxious aspects of it from me, until after we had sex...

We went to San Francisco for our first weekend together... we had hot passionate sex that seemed at first blush to be enhanced by our different political views that at first we respectfully argued over... but after we did the wild thing, and we were having pillow talk, he said something that made me get up, pack my bags, and call a cab to take to me to the train station.. .he called me a "soccer mom" as a way to be dismissive of my opinions... he was rather shocked when I packed and left and tried to talk me out of it... but alas, it was too late, he revealed what a sexist piece of shit he really was and there is no amount of good looks and good sex that can make up for being sexist and stupid




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:59:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

That would be a great beginning, but I am afraid each generation seems to learn best by failing rather than by success.   [sm=banghead.gif]

Indeed.

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BTW, the first question was more rhetorical than literal.

Oops. Hard to tell on these boards sometimes.

- LA




domiguy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 7:04:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Have you ever been with a con, domiguy? What's it like [&:] ?


I dated a conservative... we got to know each other over several months, and I was able to ignore most of the drivel that came out of his mouth because he was very good looking, a jarhead actually. I overlooked his conservatism because he hid the most obnoxious aspects of it from me, until after we had sex...

We went to San Francisco for our first weekend together... we had hot passionate sex that seemed at first blush to be enhanced by our different political views that at first we respectfully argued over... but after we did the wild thing, and we were having pillow talk, he said something that made me get up, pack my bags, and call a cab to take to me to the train station.. .he called me a "soccer mom" as a way to be dismissive of my opinions... he was rather shocked when I packed and left and tried to talk me out of it... but alas, it was too late, he revealed what a sexist piece of shit he really was and there is no amount of good looks and good sex that can make up for being sexist and stupid



Perhaps if you made him eat pussy the whole thing might have been a little more tolerable...That's what I did with mine.

Alas, there was only so far that labia licking could go in resolving our serious differences.

I told her that I had uterine cancer and my time had run out.


Did I mention that those conservatives are really fucking dumb?




AnimusRex -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 7:08:53 PM)

Boy, I would love for this to be true, that political liberals are wiser, smarter, and have bigger cocks and more tingly clits than the Teabaggers.

But even if the study is absolutely true- I don't think it follows that those who are "more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations" correlate to the political divisions we have in America.

The reason is that novel theories and new proposals for society have come at various times, from both conservatives and liberals.
When I came of age in the late 70's, I saw the liberals as the hidebound traditionalists, clinging to the New Deal and unable to conceive of a new framework of governance.
Likewise, the conservatives were the ones with new novel ideas, pushing for a new relationship between the people and government.

But these relationships evolve and fluctuate over time; I have stated a couple of times here that the modern conservative movement is actually a radically liberal party, a reckless reshaping of the traditional guidelines and boundaries that have been precedent for generations; painting them as traditionalists is simply incorrect. The Founders would be astonished and appalled at the legal theories of John Yoo, for example. Adam Smith would be horrified to see what is being done in his name.




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 7:13:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I'd have been smart enough not to post that.


Well I see the veiled insult in that remark, so I guess I'm not as dumb as you think ;-)

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I see studies all the time. Often stories about those studies draw erroneous conclusions--possible, but not demonstrated by the study.

Then people go all ape shit over the study that may or may not have said that in the first place.


It was simply a subject for discussion. Isn't this a discussion forum?

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Until I see methodology, it's a blurb. Reporters who report only the conclusions should not be allowed to report on science.


It is available. Why don't you take a look at it?

Edited to add the journal reference: Kanazawa et al. Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent. Social Psychology Quarterly, 2010; DOI: 10.1177/0190272510361602

- LA



It wasn't an insult. I thought you'd see past it. I guess I was wrong.

Your link is only the abstract; I'm not paying to read it nor taking time to search for it.

Here's my gut reaction, though--their primary hypothesis, essentially that curious minds are more intelligent, is hardly startling. To equate that as the abstract does to liberalism and atheism is quite a jump, however, and apparently entirely an assumption. At least the abstract doesn't indicate anything making that link (nor does the article about the study).

So I'm going with unsupported until shown differently.

Incidentally, it also equates monogamy with higher intelligence. Also apparently unsupported and a hell of a blanket cultural bias overlooked there. This would make Muslims and Mormans less intelligent along with the poly folks and the serial monogamists.

Methodology. I see a lot of assumptions and conclusions drawn over and above the data.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 7:16:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
It wasn't an insult. I thought you'd see past it. I guess I was wrong.

Obviously we had a misunderstanding. Would you care to explain to me what you meant?

- LA




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 7:23:56 PM)

See above edit.

Without that support, I wouldn't have presented something likely to antagonize.

My choice, that's all. The language was meant ironically.





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