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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 6:19:02 AM   
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I have two questions for you, if you don't mind answering them.

What is NLP?

On two occasions I've had the opportunity to be hypnotized. Neither time was I able to be put under. Both hypnotists said it was because I was 'unwilling' so they couldn't do it, but I really wanted to try. Is it possible for someone to be too logical and/or sceptical for such a procedure?

Celeste



NLP is modeled from Milton Erickson. He was a amazing Hypnotist who took on many tough and interesting cases. There are many reasons why it may not have happened when you tried. You may also have the misconception that being comfortable in hypnosis means a black out.

That is certainly true with some people, but a light to medium state is about feeling a profound relaxation- Among other things. You will remember all that is happened, unless there is a suggestion to forget. It does happen naturally to some at first. There are some people who realize they are controlling in real life, they also realize at times their controlling is a little out of control.

Some times it is fear, or simply not the in the cards that night. There are times even for me that I go deeper than others. You still get the benefits. Most of all you can think of hypnosis as an intelligence test. The more profound and higher conscious thoughts you have,  the more profound your experience can be. There is a great article that shows we use both our conscious and unconscious every day.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/050228/28think.htm)

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 6:27:29 AM   
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Yes. Plus, if you're too hyped up and AWARE of being hypnotized, it makes it harder.  I've had some great hypno sessions, and some that just didn't go through because I was too into the act of being hypnotized that I couldn't just let it happen.


That can happen but there is something called an “up time trance”. A Tist (hypnotist) can use this state for the subject or himself/herself to do active things. It is commonly used with people who are very active, and you don't need to get relaxed in the traditional way. In fact, a relaxed in a chair not moving can be referred to as “a down time trance”

In an uptime trance you can just as easily be running. That is how I learned it. It was a kind of running meditation. That is the best way to describe it. You are simply part of the flow and the action. I still try to get into that zone when I run now. Many people naturally can attain a simple level of this state if they run for awhile on their own.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 6:30:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I look forward to hearing more from you. It is always good to have people familiar with the process. As you must know already, these are tools you can use through out your life.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 6:32:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, and I will look forward to talking more with you.

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 7:25:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OneX2

I look forward to hearing more from you. It is always good to have people familiar with the process. As you must know already, these are tools you can use through out your life.

Joseph



Yes, these tools are in no way specific to BDSM or even designed for that.  my Dominant friend uses them on and for himself, throughout aspects of his life. 

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 9:14:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		As do I. I look forward to learning more about and your friend.

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RE: The Left Hand of Slavery-Using Post Hypnotic Sugges... - 3/30/2006 2:45:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have gotten asked how I might use hypnosis in a bdsm way. Here is an example from my blog. I look forward to hearing what people think with this.

Creating The Posthypnotic itch is like getting a new toy. Ever thought about sex and really wanted it? Imagine that through out the day there is a thought of sex entering your mind. Popping in and out, with every thing you do. Every thought adds to a feeling of heat in your pussy. Every time your pussy gets hotter there is a feeling like an itch that gets more pronounced. As you move around  around, it is as if you can't scratch it.

You need to perform and service for it to go away. You can feel the heat distracting you, and can look down to notice, you are dripping, ready. You can feel the itch growing all over your body... A constant reminder that you need to be touched. 

How responsive would you be begging at my feet? Can you imagine how much more intense every sensation would be now.. That is one of the suggestions I enjoy giving to a slave.. I am curious to how many of you this appeals to? Of course having it conditioned with an on and off makes it even more Mmmmmm.. do able.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 3/30/2006 3:20:46 PM   
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RE: The Left Hand of Slavery - 3/30/2006 4:37:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have a certain charm. Not to mention your profile is a good read. I look forward to chatting with you. That is as I figure all this out. lol

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slavery-Breeding slaves - 4/1/2006 7:38:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read a post on here recently about breeding slaves. I have to say this makes me very curious. I do find this idea very erotic because of its complete and utter surrender. I think just like many of the other kinks on this page it cannot be automatically said to be wrong, but does enter into many dark and gray areas. Has any one here been in this sort of relationship or is looking for this very thing? I have not yet met any one doing it, and I would like to chat and find out more about the what makes this work for them.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slavery - 4/1/2006 9:25:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn! Has no one else on this site read your profile where you state:

" I seek to create a class of peasants here to rule over?"

Fine...if no one else reads it, then it's on their heads for not doing so. But don't ever tell me again that you "won't tolerate me" for stating what you put in your own profile.

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 1:11:57 AM   
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Hypnotizis fascinates me very much..but I don't like the idea of it if it's used to make the person do something beyond her/his limits although I've read/heard that the person or the subconsciousness can automatically take control of the hypnosis if it goes too far.


i heard there are ways to get around that.. ways to phrase things

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 5:29:22 AM   
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Hypnotizis fascinates me very much..but I don't like the idea of it if it's used to make the person do something beyond her/his limits although I've read/heard that the person or the subconsciousness can automatically take control of the hypnosis if it goes too far.


i heard there are ways to get around that.. ways to phrase things



Sorry. I don't mean to be rude, but no one with any real training in that field, or licensed in that field, would even attempt to "get around it". This man has clearly stated in his profile that any "slave" he might snare must be willing to be hynotized, and then went on to say in his profile that he "seeks to create a race of peasants that he can rule over."

Obviously, some of you think that is just fine....but I don't and never will give him the nod on that.

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 5:40:00 AM   
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This man has clearly stated in his profile that any "slave" he might snare must be willing to be hynotized, and then went on to say in his profile that he "seeks to create a race of peasants that he can rule over."
what a TURN-ON >>read sarcastic<< seeks to create a race of peasants...is just.......mmmmmmmmmm

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 5:52:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wytchywoman
This man has clearly stated in his profile that any "slave" he might snare must be willing to be hynotized, and then went on to say in his profile that he "seeks to create a race of peasants that he can rule over."
what a TURN-ON >>read sarcastic<< seeks to create a race of peasants...is just.......mmmmmmmmmm



Thank you! You are the first one who actually saw what I did and it gives me major creeps. So far, everyone else has played up to this dude. He scares me. Honestly he does...read back and see how eager he is to ask other subs/slaves for them to "share with him". He sounds like someone who is just too eager to try to get into someone's  mind one way or another.

And that "create a race of peasants" thing just makes me want to run!

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 6:04:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm strictly monogamy but that doesn't mean I don't understand polygamy though I don't want to get involved in that kind of act but yes he does sound quite desperate in his search but the word PEASANT using that of ALL the words that exist in this world...and create a race of peasants...that's just... it's just not right I'm kinda lacking words hereeeee

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RE: The Left Hand of Slavery - 4/2/2006 8:40:13 AM   
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Damn! Has no one else on this site read your profile where you state:

" I seek to create a class of peasants here to rule over?"

Fine...if no one else reads it, then it's on their heads for not doing so. But don't ever tell me again that you "won't tolerate me" for stating what you put in your own profile.



I don't mind that you quote my profile. I would safely wager we are all into different aspects of the life style, and at different times in our lives more or less into specific aspects of each piece of what we enjoy. What I don't want to respond to is some one trying to rub my nose in some thing that they feel I should be ashamed of. I look forward to sharing and learning from you, but I believe it is perfectly fine to tell some one as a person you appreciate them. It is the behavior the behavior that you don't agree with. Looking forward to hearing from you again. It sounds like you feel the same way.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 8:50:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right from the beginning you learn the difference between being connected to an experience and being disconnected. It is what we do naturally, and what we can use to live out a fantasy to ensure it safe and right for us. I do this to rehearse and enhance my own performance. Some people will look at hypnosis as if it is a foreign element being introduced to the system of a person. It is no more foreign than how we feel when being immersed in dreams, or living the experience of another by their own story. Yes, it is, and can be intensified, but right from the start is the questions and answers. That is how we connect our passions with the rest of our life. I know it's vague what I have said so far. I am talking generally about the topic. I look forward to hearing from you again.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 8:57:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I put in my profile that I am looking for people that must be willing to be hypnotized because I am looking for specific people. It is no different that you want males to Dom you ages 30-55.

Again this isn't a professional setting. I am well qualifies in a professional setting, but I am not operating as a Therapist here. I don't bring that part of my life completely in. If you are a business woman I am sure you are not trying to top from the bottom telling your Dom how a knot should be tied, or analyzing the most effective way to use you at any given moment. It is simply a differing view point.

Joseph

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RE: The Left Hand of Slvery - 4/2/2006 9:02:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am glad you see it that way. There needs to be a bit of humor in what ever we do. I think it is when we take life a bit to seriously there is a problem.

Joseph

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