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Jeffff -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/3/2010 9:01:09 AM)

Ron.. since I have him blocked I don't know what sort of crap he is spewing.

But you are only gonna hurt your head banging it against that pussy's agenda.


Jeff




Musicmystery -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/3/2010 12:37:30 PM)

I don't think those two like each other...

[;)]




thompsonx -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/3/2010 8:20:35 PM)

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slvemike4u -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/3/2010 9:36:51 PM)

Best Thompson post ever.....LOL




Musicmystery -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 4:35:57 AM)

Or those two, come to that...




Sanity -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 10:43:31 AM)


The feds have seized nearly 90% of some states, and since they're occupying those lands of course its only fair that they should pay to maintain them.


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Sanity -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 11:07:37 AM)


Even a stopped watch is  right twice per day.


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Best Thompson post ever.....LOL




juliaoceania -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 11:21:19 AM)

I do not understand your point...




slvemike4u -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 11:28:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Even a stopped watch is  right twice per day.


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Best Thompson post ever.....LOL

Shit ,in that case Sanity you are overdue!




Musicmystery -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/4/2010 4:38:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The feds have seized nearly 90% of some states, and since they're occupying those lands of course its only fair that they should pay to maintain them.


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Much of it federal land to begin with, not seized, and 90% certainly not the norm.

Other than that inaccuracy, I've no problem with this. Money goes to those states. Fine.

Why people in those states would oppose that is what befuddles me.





thompsonx -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/5/2010 10:33:40 AM)

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The feds have seized nearly 90% of some states, and since they're occupying those lands of course its only fair that they should pay to maintain them.


Just how did the federal government go about siezing these lands?




Musicmystery -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/5/2010 12:23:52 PM)

Ask Sanity--his claim.




thompsonx -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/5/2010 4:59:45 PM)

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The feds have seized nearly 90% of some states


Just how did the federal government go about siezing these lands?




Aneirin -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/5/2010 7:58:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

This came up elsewhere and deserves its own thread.

I'm always amazed that people will vote against their own best interests.

from The Tax Foundation:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/press/show/22659.html

33 states and the District of Columbia get back more Federal tax dollars than they pay in. Ironically, considering the Republican Party champions low taxes and cutting Federal taxes, 21 of the 33 states who get back more than the taxpayers in those states pay in are also states who voted for John McCain in 2008. In effect, the wealthier Blue states are subsidizing poorer, more rural Red states...much as urban counties usually subsidize rural counties on the state tax level albeit the red-leaning suburbs of urban areas subsidize the dark blue super-urban inner cities of metropolitan areas. The blue city propers typically are net receivers of federal funds.

States with large military or Federal labs (typically in the South and West) appear to get more in Federal dollars. Large urban areas receive substantially more federal funds in the form of social welfare spending, as do minority-heavy rural areas particularly in the South. Large, urban states pay more in than they get back although it's unclear whether the larger outlow derives from red- or blue-minded taxpayers in those urban blue states (e.g. Wall Street in NY).

State Outlay to Tax Ratio, Ranked from largest gainers to largest supporters (dollars back per dollar taxed):

New Mexico
$2.03

Mississippi
$2.02

Alaska
$1.84

Louisiana
$1.78

West Virginia
$1.76

North Dakota
$1.68

Alabama
$1.66

South Dakota
$1.53

Kentucky
$1.51

Virginia
$1.51

Montana
$1.47

Hawaii
$1.44

Maine
$1.41

Arkansas
$1.41

Oklahoma
$1.36

South Carolina
$1.35

Missouri
$1.32

Maryland
$1.30

Tennessee
$1.27

Idaho
$1.21

Arizona
$1.19

Kansas
$1.12

Wyoming
$1.11

Iowa
$1.10

Nebraska
$1.10

Vermont
$1.08

North Carolina
$1.08

Pennsylvania
$1.07

Utah
$1.07

Indiana
$1.05

Ohio
$1.05

Georgia
$1.01


Rhode Island
$1.00

Florida
$0.97

Texas
$0.94

Oregon
$0.93

Michigan
$0.92

Washington
$0.88

Wisconsin
$0.86

Massachusetts
$0.82

Colorado
$0.81

New York
$0.79

California
$0.78

Delaware
$0.77

Illinois
$0.75

Minnesota
$0.72

New Hampshire
$0.71

Connecticut
$0.69

Nevada
$0.65

New Jersey
$0.61


District of Columbia
$5.55



I suppose that comes with the fact that the USA,is the United States of America, you all contribute to a common aim, perhaps the betterment of all as opposed to the betterment of the few.

We have similar in the United Kingdom it is known fact that the Engish contribute more in tax than they get back in public spending, particularly in the north, Scotland to be precise, the Scots receive more per head than say a person living in England in spending compared to tax surrendered, some say the Scots receive twelve times more than what a similar circumstances person living in England receives. But hey, that is what comes with united things, the richer help the poorer to all arrive hopefully  at a level of balance, i.e.we are all the same despite the fact some may work hard and others may doss.




Musicmystery -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/5/2010 8:20:58 PM)

I know. Nor do I have a problem with that. Read the thread.

Ironically, though, its the states on the net receiving end voting against such government involvement, i.e., voting their states less money should they ever be successful in ending it.

That's the point. They are complaining about a situation that doesn't actually exist, while the net payers are actually generally supporters.




luckydawg -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/6/2010 1:21:21 PM)

MM, as I pointed out before. If Alaska got to use the lands held by the Feds, they would get way more money. ANWR for example.

As your article pointed out....It is millitary spending that causes the apperant disparity. Republicans are not generally known for thier desire to cut the millitary. Voting Republican woiuld not cut off (millitary) spending in their states. Your analysis is seriously flawed. Republican rule would likely increase millitary spending.




mnottertail -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/6/2010 1:30:00 PM)

as I pointed out, why should those of us who paid for those lands let you have free and unresticted use of them? you pay for em, thats how you own them, this is not a communist country, coward, you pay for your play here.




AnimusRex -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/6/2010 1:31:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Much of it federal land to begin with, not seized...


This gentleman takes issue with that statement.

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luckydawg -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/6/2010 2:02:37 PM)

MNOT, take it up with MM and Julia.

I agree that if the Feds want to hold and manage land, they have to pay for it.

It is good to see you agreeing with me again.

Now sit up and beg!!




mnottertail -> RE: 33 states get more Fed tax $ than they pay in. (3/6/2010 2:05:32 PM)

and they do pay for it you slimey fucking welfare patient communist cocksucker who sponges off the rest of the country, lazy fucking communist bastard, go get a real job and subsidize your own miserable self.




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