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willbeurdaddy -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 2:42:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


Meanwhile, how does this impact the economy and employment?

Jeri Kubicki, an employee benefits expert with the manufacturing group, said employers are putting off hiring new workers because of concerns that the bill's passage would raise their costs. "There is too much uncertainty," she said.


Shit, Shit and more bullshit on that.^^^^^^^^




Sorry, you are wrong. I consult to some of the largest employers in the country and that is what every one of them is saying.




Lucylastic -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 2:46:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Fresh Brook Trout roasted with almonds tastes delicious, smells pretty good toooo:)
I also tie trout flies.... have kit will travel...



That's sexy.... but do you cry?

For you my darlin? nope:)




willbeurdaddy -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 2:47:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JackNikopol

if you take into account that medicine in other countrys are provided for there citizens for free,



Yeah if you consider paying for it through taxes and lost productivity "free". How about I send you some "free" stuff, all you pay is shipping and handling?




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 3:02:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Wish I was hot.

Best I can do is to try not to smell like that 7lb trout.[;)]


It's a start...:)

Jeff, of the North, eh?


Uncle Jefwey?




Jeffff -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 3:07:50 PM)

Yes Little zeph........


just don't hold your breath at Christmas




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 3:10:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Yes Little zeph........


just don't hold your breath at Christmas


That's okay, I'm not into breathplay [:)]




Moonhead -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 3:15:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: JackNikopol

if you take into account that medicine in other countrys are provided for there citizens for free,



Yeah if you consider paying for it through taxes and lost productivity "free". How about I send you some "free" stuff, all you pay is shipping and handling?

Care to hazard a guess how big a sliver of a UK citizen's income tax actually goes to the NHS?




domiguy -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 6:47:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


Meanwhile, how does this impact the economy and employment?

Jeri Kubicki, an employee benefits expert with the manufacturing group, said employers are putting off hiring new workers because of concerns that the bill's passage would raise their costs. "There is too much uncertainty," she said.


Shit, Shit and more bullshit on that.^^^^^^^^




Sorry, you are wrong. I consult to some of the largest employers in the country and that is what every one of them is saying.


By "consult" you mean drive by them, right?

No one would ever, ever value your consultation.




Musicmystery -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 7:31:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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Jeri Kubicki, an employee benefits expert with the manufacturing group, said employers are putting off hiring new workers

"There is too much uncertainty," she said.


Sorry, you are wrong. I consult to some of the largest employers in the country and that is what every one of them is saying.


Well then hell, let's pass this thing and let the uncertainty end!




Musicmystery -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 7:34:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Fuck it, I am moving to Canada!

Did you know they have 7lb brook trout in Labrador?... 7 fucking lbs!

And hot redheads too

Jeff


Jeff discussing a health care issue in Canada....

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tazzygirl -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/9/2010 8:32:17 PM)

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The Bill, with the lasted "deadline" being March 18th; not to be confused with the previous July 31st deadline, August recess deadline, or Obama's "I want it done by the fall" deadlines; (I know more pragmatic facts - sorry about that!) will entitle the insurance companies to 30 million new customers. The majority of whom will be young and healthy. Of course, since there will also be mandatory coverage provided to the unhealthy I think its safe to say, there will be more claims expense incurred too. Good thing those low risk healthy people will be required to pay to offset those costs or else those insurance companies could go bankrupt! Then what?


The number was 30 million when this all started. COBRA collapsed, or has that fact been forgotten. More people have lost their jobs. How many families who were previously covered by their work insurance now have no insurance? And how many of those had massive medical bills already?

Your assumption that majority of those to be covered will be young and healthy is misleading. Many who have lost their jobs are neither.




mnottertail -> RE: The Truth About The Health Care Bills (3/10/2010 6:11:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


Meanwhile, how does this impact the economy and employment?

Jeri Kubicki, an employee benefits expert with the manufacturing group, said employers are putting off hiring new workers because of concerns that the bill's passage would raise their costs. "There is too much uncertainty," she said.


Shit, Shit and more bullshit on that.^^^^^^^^




Sorry, you are wrong. I consult to some of the largest employers in the country and that is what every one of them is saying.



I understand that they are in concert putting a disingenious spin on this. Seems to me they have been downsizing now since late in the bush administration, they don't give a fuck what work needs to be done, they drive by profit only without regard to consumers or environment and quite often without regard to legalities, there is always some hiring during the holidays, even the government during the census, and now these multi-million dollar paid captains of industry are paralized with vertigo over the stalled healthcare bill (never mind what we needed was reform) and in their aghast gaping fear and uncertainty, they forgot how to lay off when things become too expensive for them (if that be the case).

Sorry, wilb, ain't buying the assumptions, and therefore ain't buying the deal.

Still calling bullshit on that little chunk of misdirection, since we know that if there was no healthcare bill in the chambers they still would not jump up and say, goddammit!!!!! we need to hire in droves!!!! (or even a modicum of hiring).





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