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slvemike4u -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:39:57 PM)

No,I don't and I don't see where adhering to the letter of the law is analogous to circumventing.
Circumventing the law would be entering on a tourist visa...and  staying.The law says any baby born here is a citizen....do you suggest stopping pregnant woman at immigration and ascertaining that they will leave before giving birth?




LadyEllen -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:41:06 PM)

Maybe they should recruit Cucky into the immigration service in lieu of time in federal prison now the SS have him (apparently), and send him to Turkey to convince would be parents of how undesirable it should be to have anything to do with the US.

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slvemike4u -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:42:48 PM)

Talk about a man being born to his work.




heartcream -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:42:56 PM)

God all these people thinking they have more of a right to be somewhere than others.

Indigenous people are people who belong here on the planet whatever their origin is. Africa is the one continent that didnt move or shift. The original continent being Pangea. Not only blacks then just like now.

People need to back down thinking they have a right to decide who is here or who isnt. If there really was a concensus I would imagine it would be based on keeping out people of ill intent and letting the rest of human kind, our tribe, to go where we will.

No one has more of a right to be somewhere than another as long as you dont roll over someone else to be there.

Not every one wants to live in the USA. Not every one wants to live any one place.

Let the people go man. It is 2010, settle down and live and let live.




LadyEllen -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:45:13 PM)

Geographically HC I would agree - but this is actually about which prospective members are considered eligible and welcome to join the socio-economic club known as the USA.

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heartcream -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:49:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Geographically HC I would agree - but this is actually about which prospective members are considered eligible and welcome to join the socio-economic club known as the USA.

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People who want a life there ought to have ago at a life there as long as they arnt skanky souls out to hurt and take off of others. Simple, easy peasy. As long as no one gets stepped on. As long as there is room. If someone wants to live somewhere, let them is my point.




Aylee -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 8:53:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Me either...are they all coming over via boat?
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I thought that you could not fly in your third trimester without a doctor's note.



I am guessing not.  I am really wondering about the medical ethics of doctors that would agree to this.  And do they get a "kick back" from the tourism companies?




BoiJen -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 9:23:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heartcream


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Geographically HC I would agree - but this is actually about which prospective members are considered eligible and welcome to join the socio-economic club known as the USA.

E


People who want a life there ought to have ago at a life there as long as they arnt skanky souls out to hurt and take off of others. Simple, easy peasy. As long as no one gets stepped on. As long as there is room. If someone wants to live somewhere, let them is my point.


That would be the whole point of the US Immigrations Department.

Boi




heartcream -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 9:26:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

That would be the whole point of the US Immigrations Department.

Boi


Not really. It is almost nothing like what I am saying.




popeye1250 -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/17/2010 11:51:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I'm willing to bet that Popeyes ancestors came to this country legally.
Try and keep up servant,I know its hard for you,but do try.....it's my hypothetical and if the borders are closed than anyone ...and I mean anyone who came in after my hypothetical closing of the borders is hypothetically speaking here illegally and therefor subject to deportion.



Mike's going to be,..."feeling poorly" tommorow.
Fuck that popeye.....I'm a professional drunk...I haven't suffered from a hangover since my amateur days in my 20's......after all practice does indeed make perfect.
But once again you refuse to address the post and instead address the poster....what are you so afraid of?



Mike, you're the one who seems to be upset about this not me. lol
So a company in Turkey is going to make $25k by making all the arrangements for a woman to fly to our country, drop a kid so that kid will "automatically" become a U.S. citizen and we are supposed to act like the local welcome wagon?
Mike, you don't see anything wrong with that?
I think Ireland was the last country in Europe to change that law a few years ago. Funny, all the "progressives" a few short years ago were touting Europe as the place the U.S. should "be more like."
In Ireland both parents have to be in the country legally or no citizenship for any children.
As it stands now a woman could be on an international flight that refuels in the U.S. for a short stop, give birth and the kid's an American citizen!
This is crazy.
We don't need a constitutional amendment to rectify this problem, just do what Ireland did, pass a law that says no more anchor babies.




eyesopened -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 4:29:34 AM)

I'm just wondering this. 

If the United States is such a fucked up, greedy, un-caring, gun-toting, baby-murdering, healthcare denying, economy-crashing, corporate greed protecting, corrupt politicking, piece of shit county.... why do so many people want to be here?

It would seem from those who start the majority of the threads, that people would be leaving the US in droves!  And yet they aren't.  The US still allows more legal immigrants than any other nation and we still have people finding loopholes to be here, not to mention jumping fences.

Can someone explain this to me?




thishereboi -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 4:30:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Geographically HC I would agree - but this is actually about which prospective members are considered eligible and welcome to join the socio-economic club known as the USA.

E


People who want a life there ought to have ago at a life there as long as they arnt skanky souls out to hurt and take off of others. Simple, easy peasy. As long as no one gets stepped on. As long as there is room. If someone wants to live somewhere, let them is my point.


Maybe they should send them all north then. You guys have lots of space, no problem right?




Politesub53 -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 5:24:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Mike, so it's "ok" to take advantage of another person or country?



Ask your own hospitals who are offering the service.




slvemike4u -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 6:47:58 AM)

I don't need to ask the hospitals( no offence polite) and I am not upset over this popeye....I'm also not afraid of new citizens....I have no fear that they will somehow take something from me....I happen to beleive that they enrich a society and add to it....as immigrants have done for the 200 plus years of this Republic......you scared ass people have to stop being so afraid.Life is good enjoy it and stop inventing boogeyman.




Musicmystery -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 9:29:35 AM)

They would, at least, be legal immigrants.

Dual citizenship has its advantages--but also its disadvantages. Technically at least, you're on the hook for taxes, military service and so forth to both countries.




LadyEllen -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 10:41:49 AM)

Indeed MM - though there are quite a lot of those agreements now in international law that limit or prevent double taxation; as an aspiring capitalist this is important to me though I lack currently the means to take a keen interest. If I play it right as I understand it, I need not pay any more than a pittance at most, anywhere under such agreements.

E




popeye1250 -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 12:30:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I don't need to ask the hospitals( no offence polite) and I am not upset over this popeye....I'm also not afraid of new citizens....I have no fear that they will somehow take something from me....I happen to beleive that they enrich a society and add to it....as immigrants have done for the 200 plus years of this Republic......you scared ass people have to stop being so afraid.Life is good enjoy it and stop inventing boogeyman.


Mike, silly me, I thought each country decided who and how many people they let in not for profit foreign travel companies and anchor baby tourists.




slvemike4u -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 2:16:50 PM)

They do Popeye...and the United States of America has decided that those born here are citizens of this country.....and yet you seem to have a problem with folks actually following the law of the land and trying to better their situation.
Again I will ask what are you afraid of......other than more of them coming here?




pahunkboy -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 3:16:51 PM)

thats odd.  at the rate we are going- it wont be long before I want to leave.




popeye1250 -> RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! (3/18/2010 4:10:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

They do Popeye...and the United States of America has decided that those born here are citizens of this country.....and yet you seem to have a problem with folks actually following the law of the land and trying to better their situation.
Again I will ask what are you afraid of......other than more of themĀ coming here?


Gee Mike, perhaps you missed my post #50 above.




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