Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen I'd say more incomprehensible rather than hilarious Mike. Real's ideas - some of which may have merit, but we never can get to the point of proof - seem to revolve around the notion that the entire legal system, civil, criminal and public has no authority and therefore lacks competence as well as any jurisdictional power. But these notions are surely compromised by other ideas he proposes that the Queen of England has such authority, competence and power (and may therefore surely have delegated it to the USA) and/or that the compact between citizens, even sovereigns, which is the USA may have delegated unto it by those citizens, or sovereigns, such authority, competence and power by way of that compact. This latter is where I believe, though it is entirely unclear, Real derives his ideas that the legal system has no power, in that he as a citizen and especially as a sovereign, chooses not to agree to the compact from which that power derives. In theory this is all well and good, but it is clear that the compact is entire or it must lapse and therefore either Real must renounce his membership of the USA in order to treat outside that power or the USA itself must dissolve pending a new arrangement. The former is more obviously the likely outcome, but this should bring serious problems to Real in that he would thereby no longer enjoy those benefits of the compact which he does not find objectionable. E Cliff Notes: RO can love it more than he hates it or leave it, but he cant stay and not be under its jurisdiction, no matter what his delusions may make him believe. sure I can! We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment? Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality! "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session
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