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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

You have never worked with Downs Syndrome adults have you?  Or a host of other disabilities that prevent human beings from providing for themselves. 

Fuck you.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What I am against is government teaching people to not work, as it has a habit of doing.

Politicians use government (taxpayer funded) freebies to purchase power, said another way, pork barrel lifelong pols buy votes so they can live high all the time.

They're doing no one any favors, they're dragging us all down.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Fuck me? Fuck you. I wrote, "a safety net is needed". What I am against is government teaching people to not work, as it has a habit of doing.

Politicians use government (taxpayer funded) freebies to purchase power, said another way, pork barrel lifelong pols buy votes so they can live high all the time.

They're doing no one any favors, they're dragging us all down.

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

You have never worked with Downs Syndrome adults have you?  Or a host of other disabilities that prevent human beings from providing for themselves. 

Fuck you.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

Nope Wilbur, they haven't offered any of their actual paperwork. 

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I don't believe that there should be free government hammock for anything, though a safety net is needed. You say government should provide "the poor" with their medicine, then why not food as well. Thats just as vital, isn't it? As well as clothing, and shelter, and transportation...

Why should "the poor" have any incentive to provide for themselves whatsoever. Why should any of us ever have to get out of bed at all, when the government can just do it all for us.

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I don't believe that there should be free government hammock for anything, though a safety net is needed. You say government should provide "the poor" with their medicine, then why not food as well. Thats just as vital, isn't it? As well as clothing, and shelter, and transportation...

Why should "the poor" have any incentive to provide for themselves whatsoever. Why should any of us ever have to get out of bed at all, when the government can just do it all for us.

Sanity,
i am on West Virginia state Medicaid. i was uninsured, on a pension, and had no savings or investments when my breast cancer was diagnosed last year.  That combination qualified me for state CANCER MEDICIAD.  Just one of the meds i get from my local pharmacy to administer at home is over $4,000 for 10 doses which i take every three weeks.  My co-pay is $3.00 each three weeks.  The other 8 meds i take would only cost a total of $150.00 per month for which i pay a total of $7.00 per month. 
 
While i was working i had good health insurance, paid my way through life, and raised a family without Medicaid or other forms of welfare.
 
i just had the misfortune of getting breast cancer when i had no job but not yet 65.  Yes, i am "poor" for the purposes of medical care and prescriptions.  Without MEDICAID i would not have had life saving surgery last November or chemotherapy treatments that started this year.
 
My wish is that nobody, including you, has the misfortune of a medical need when you are unable to help yourself.  MEDICAID is helping to save my life.

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Why stop there. Why wouldn't you want us all to be government drones / slaves? Because thats your kind of  logic is leading us.

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You know, any other store that illogically chooses to subsidize that kind of a state and federal welfare program will make up for the losses elsewhere.

And again, why should any business subsidize the state or the federal government. I'm sure they pay enough in taxes already.

Are you then advocating that we have state owned and operated drug dispensories?  I'm not opposed to that.  Leave the retails stores out of it altogether!

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And I apologise for being overly-sensitive today. I have spent years helping people get the medicines they need, often fruitless exercises in frustration and sorrow. I tried. In some cases I succeeded. In most others I failed. In the end I had to stop because of the emotional toll it was taking on me. I am not smart like you.

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Nope Wilbur, they haven't offered any of their actual paperwork. 

Other than their audited financial statements that are publicly available, I guess not.

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I'm sorry you got sick and this isn't a slam towards you but your posts illustrates one of the fundamental problems with the country right now. You paid your way through life, you raised a family but you didn't save and you didn't invest. Now you are broke and those us of who did save and invest and continue to do so have to cover those costs.
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But let me ask you something now, Angel. Do you think a business should be a good neighbor, being a benefit to the neighborhood that allows them to bring in the money they do...or do you think they should just go by numbers and make their determinations on that alone?

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On this one, i have to agree with Sanity. These companies should be, at least, allowed to break even. But to take a loss because the reimbursement isnt enough... well... we cant force these companies to do that. The problem will happen when the LAST company tries to do this. Then the real issues will have to be addressed.

When the LAST company tries to do that it will be too LATE to address the real issues. Addressing the real issues, rather than simply fulfilling one of Obama's core campaign promises, is why Congressional Republicans and an ever-increasing majority of "We the people..." have opposed the Democrats' healthcare reform legislation.

Ok Jim. So this is Obama's fault too? lol

The states themselves made these decisions, partly to help with the budget crunch most states found themselves in. The delaware dispute was june, 2009.

Delaware cut its reimbursement level to 84 percent from 86 percent of the average wholesale price back in April. After discussions with Walgreen, Delaware agreed to cut only to 85 percent as of July 1. The state stands to save $500,000 in its next fiscal year, versus the $1 million it had originally hoped for, Landgraf said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2634646420090626

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And I apologise for being overly-sensitive today. I have spent years helping people get the medicines they need, often fruitless exercises in frustration and sorrow. I tried. In some cases I succeeded. In most others I failed. In the end I had to stop because of the emotional toll it was taking on me. I am not smart like you.

This is where i think you are miscomprehending what Walgreens has done. You are acting like the NEW people, meaning the people NOT getting prescriptions from this ONE company in this ONE state who may want to get their medicine from this ONE company in this ONE state rather than another company, won't GET their medication. That simply is not true and MAJOR over dramatizing. All this means is the people who are eligible to get their medicine because they are on medicaid will simply HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMPANY or STORE to get them.

This isn't walgreens taking medication away from people, this is a company simply saying to potential customers, we don't offer that service to new customers anymore. We are however, maintaining former and past customers and allowing them the service.

So the new people simply go to another store and get their medication. Yeah, inconvenient for most i am sure but hey, things like this happen. They aren't being DEPRIVED of their medication, they are simply IF THEY ARE A NEW customer, would have to go someplace else for the service they want.

Sorry but this is a simple matter of people being inconvenience by having to go someplace else or perhaps not getting their product from a preferred store. THAT is not a right under medicaid, that is simply a luxury of being able to go to that one store for medicine rather than another. Being on medicaid doesn't mean they won't be inconvenienced for same, nor does it mean company's are scum if they choose not to participate in providing such a service to medicaid people. Its simply the same thing as a company refusing to take new patients who are under BC/BS. You seem to want to make it more than that because its MEDICAID.

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