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jlf1961 -> Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 2:49:21 PM)

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Democrats express safety concerns after protests

WASHINGTON – House Democratic leaders on Wednesday said they are concerned about the personal safety of lawmakers because of threats linked to intense opposition to the health care overhaul law.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the FBI and Capitol Police briefed Democrats on how to handle perceived security threats and that those who feel they are at risk will be "getting attention from the proper authorities."

Hoyer said more than 10 Democratic lawmakers have reported incidents, but he did not whether any are now receiving added security. Normally only those in leadership positions have personal security guards.

Protests swirled around the Capitol during debate on the health care overhaul last weekend. Protesters hurled racial slurs at several black lawmakers and one protester spat at a black lawmaker.

Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the Democratic whip and a senior member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said he has vivid memories of history and that the scene on the street Saturday was "very reminiscent of our history."

Bricks were thrown through windows at two Democratic Party offices in western New York, including a district office of Rep. Louise Slaughter, who played a key role in getting the health care bill through the House.


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FBI investigates threats against Democratic House members

The FBI and local authorities are investigating a severed gas line at the home Rep. Tom Perriello's brother, the Virginia Democrat said in a statement.

Earlier this week, a conservative activist in Virginia posted what he believed to be the home address of the congressman. But it turned out to be Perriello's brother address. Politico wrote about the mix up here.

Perriello voted for the health care bill that President Obama signed into law Tuesday.

"While it is too early to say anything definitive regarding political motivations behind this act," Perriello's statement says, "it's never too early for political leaders to condemn threats of violence, particularly as threats to other members of Congress and their children escalate."


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I do not agree with the entire Health Reform bill, but there is no reason for people to call congressional offices and make threats to harm members of congress. If this is the type of people that were against the health care bill, then it surely says much for what the Republican party has become, the party of violence.




mnottertail -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 2:52:35 PM)

Yeah, but hold the phone, there is nothing to say that they were republicans.

Ron




Thadius -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 2:59:38 PM)

I also take a bit of offense at being smeared with this brush. I have protested and opposed this bill peacefully, and will continue to do so. This is another attempt to lump all those who opposed the bill as racists and violent thugs, I will not be labled as either.

The violence and threats are deplorable and the cowards that are committing these offenses should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. God help them if they admit to such in my presence.




jlf1961 -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 3:02:53 PM)

Well, it is fact that the Tea Party members have brandished signs implying that a "browning" can stop health care reform, with a picture of a pistol, AND the Republican leaders are courting such people. That would imply that the Republican Party has no problem with such threats, tactics and behavior.

If you have a problem with this fact, then I suggest you change political parties or become independent.




pahunkboy -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 3:04:01 PM)

But the pundits said everyone wants this.

How can they need security when the overwhelming majority WANT the new legislation?

just this week a survey claims people are exuberant.




jlf1961 -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 3:12:23 PM)

Pahunk, actually if you take a poll and ask simply "Do you agree with Health Reform?" the overwhelming response is yes.

The problem with this bill that is most disagreed with is the public mandate for insurance, that and the tax riders that were attached to it. It is not solely a health reform bill.

Personally, I agree with most of the health reform aspects with the exception of the public mandate, but that does not mean that I would voice threats against people who voted for it.

The bill in its present form is a start, and needs to be tweaked. A public option would have been better than the public mandate.




Thadius -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 3:22:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Well, it is fact that the Tea Party members have brandished signs implying that a "browning" can stop health care reform, with a picture of a pistol, AND the Republican leaders are courting such people. That would imply that the Republican Party has no problem with such threats, tactics and behavior.

If you have a problem with this fact, then I suggest you change political parties or become independent.

Where was this concern for Bunning when folks were calling in death threats over his filibuster of the last spending I mean jobs bill? Or all of the attacks on McCain political offices during the last election?

I often make comments about how my browning and baby desert eagle will guarantee I don't suffer life under a tyrant. Does that mean that I am planning on using them? Nope, it means that if it gets to the point where I need to defend the Constitution from an enemy (foreign or domestic) I am willing, ready, and able.

The peaceful and pragmatic,
Thadius




subtee -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 3:29:48 PM)

~FR This is not a bill, it's a law.

Sarah Palin's pac put gun shooting sight thingers (whatever they're called) on Democrats states:

[image]http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/sarahpac_0.jpg[/image]

Edit for spelling




DomKen -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 4:02:29 PM)

http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/damage_at_home_of_perriello_brother_under_investigation/54038/

Teabaggers gave out the wrong address for Congressman Perriello and now his brothers, whose address it actually was, finds the propane line on his grill slashed.

To the cons around here, remember the summer and fall of 2008 when you called a person a terrorist and a traitor because he had been in teh same room as a terrorist a few times? Are you ready to be judged by that same standared?




pahunkboy -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 4:13:48 PM)

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/03/to-all-modern-sons-of-liberty-this-is.html

....glass houses....




pahunkboy -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 4:15:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/damage_at_home_of_perriello_brother_under_investigation/54038/

Teabaggers gave out the wrong address for Congressman Perriello and now his brothers, whose address it actually was, finds the propane line on his grill slashed.

To the cons around here, remember the summer and fall of 2008 when you called a person a terrorist and a traitor because he had been in teh same room as a terrorist a few times? Are you ready to be judged by that same standared?



a .29 cent piece made in china- that a good wind would severe.




popeye1250 -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 4:46:26 PM)

And it's not even the weekend yet.




Vendaval -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 4:46:58 PM)

The political mood in this country has turned nasty and there is a looming sense of violence. That is not a solution.




thornhappy -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:25:17 PM)

Violence has been a topic since the campaign, when folks said there would be riots in the streets if Obama was elected.

I was wondering (since I only listen to these guys in a blue moon), did Beck or Limbaugh mention the epithets, spitting, or window breaking this week?  I haven't heard anything at work mentioned by folks who listen to him daily




thornhappy -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:26:17 PM)

I think it's "crosshairs" you're looking for.
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ORIGINAL: subtee

~FR This is not a bill, it's a law.

Sarah Palin's pac put gun shooting sight thingers (whatever they're called) on Democrats states:




Thadius -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:26:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

The political mood in this country has turned nasty and there is a looming sense of violence. That is not a solution.

I completely agree. It has been building since last summer, on both sides. Tis a shame. Glad I do my own reloading...for defensive purposes only.




Sanity -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:32:51 PM)


The political mood was ugly before Obama ever came on the scene Ven, though Obama's fist pumps and Pelosi's witch-like cackling for having beaten the majority of Americans who were solidly opposed to this bill hasn't helped the political mood of the country at all.

When the Democrats tell the majority to go fuck themselves, then they should expect a certain amount of anger. Its as it should be. The only thing really surprising here, is the surprise...


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

The political mood in this country has turned nasty and there is a looming sense of violence. That is not a solution.




Elisabella -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:34:04 PM)

Tea parties and threats of violence against a leader that groups of citizens feel is wielding unjust power in order to take advantage of them.

My times have changed...250 years ago that was referred to as "patriotism" not "terrorism."

LOL




Thadius -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:37:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

Tea parties and threats of violence against a leader that groups of citizens feel is wielding unjust power in order to take advantage of them.

My times have changed...250 years ago that was referred to as "patriotism" not "terrorism."

LOL

LOL I was thinking it sounded like the late '60s, but yeah. [;)] Oh wait those were other types of parties, but the point still stands.[8D]




Muirren -> RE: Democrats express safety concerns after protests (3/24/2010 5:48:05 PM)

Remember a certain war that happened back in the 1700's? My ancestors fought against a tyrannical leader, won, and that is one of the reasons you have the freedom (being chipped away as I type) that you now enjoy. I guess you don't consider that violence? It's time to pick up our weapons, get behind the wall, and take our country  back!




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