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tazzygirl -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 5:34:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Ah, so it wan't a conservative personality on TV or radio at all, it was a web page.

I'm sure the apologies to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh will begin rolling in any second now...

And does this mean that kdsub will demand everyone shun the Internet, along with anyone who gets any information off of it?

[:D]



Actually, it was an e-mail campaign, which we all know has its root somewhere. The web page the article refers too is one of the facebook accounts owned by the woman they arrested.




Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 6:18:32 AM)


Yes, it all has its roots somewhere. But its not just the right that has people living on the fringes...

Article: Rove Gets Branded 'War Criminal' At Book Signing

Video: Arresting Rove?

Not to mention, Ann Coulter couldn't speak on a college campus up in Canada.

Its the left thats come unhinged, in fact, I would say that most of the left is wayyyyyyyyyy out there.



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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Actually, it was an e-mail campaign, which we all know has its root somewhere. The web page the article refers too is one of the facebook accounts owned by the woman they arrested.







Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 6:43:21 AM)

YouTube video -

Busting The Conservative = Violent / Liberal = Non-Violent Myth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbeq6Rt6Z0&feature=player_embedded





philosophy -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:00:22 AM)


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Not to mention, Ann Coulter couldn't speak on a college campus up in Canada.




...as stated elsewhere on these fora and roundly ignored by those who'd prefer to see a big bad leftist bogeyman.....Coulter cancelled her own engagement because she couldn't handle the exercise of free speech by those who disagreed with her. She absolutely was not prevented from speaking....she chickened out.




rulemylife -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:08:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Not to mention, Ann Coulter couldn't speak on a college campus up in Canada.



See?

Canada has more to teach us about than health care if they can get that bitch to shut up.






Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:17:55 AM)


Right. Maybe she was afraid she'd slip and fall on the rose petals that all the open minded and tolerant Liberals who surrounded the building were preparing for her.

Good one...

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ORIGINAL: philosophy


...as stated elsewhere on these fora and roundly ignored by those who'd prefer to see a big bad leftist bogeyman.....Coulter cancelled her own engagement because she couldn't handle the exercise of free speech by those who disagreed with her. She absolutely was not prevented from speaking....she chickened out.




Lucylastic -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:26:09 AM)

She spoke at two colleges/unis..one before the cancelled one and one after the one SHE cancelled and  after she was advised to find out what hate speech meant here... she decided it wasnt worth getting her self busted.
you could read a nightmare out of a "spot the dog" book








philosophy -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:35:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Right. Maybe she was afraid she'd slip and fall on the rose petals that all the open minded and tolerant Liberals who surrounded the building were preparing for her.

Good one...

[:D]



......she wasn't barred from speaking. That's the bottom line. You have suggested that she was, in some way, prevented from doing so.....but that's entirely false. So what if people decided to exercise their right to free speech and say they didn't like what she has said in the past. All they're doing is saying what they consider to be truth. Coulter decided not to speak, and then tried to pretend she'd been censored.
She's an outspoken woman who says what, i assume, she believes to be true. However, it's clear that other people being equally outspoken is not to her taste, if they disagree with her. Some advocate of free speech eh?




Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:36:39 AM)


She was forced to cancel because the building was surrounded by vicious, violent, hateful Liberals.






philosophy -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:39:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


She was forced to cancel because the building was surrounded by vicious, violent, hateful Liberals.





.....bollocks. She decided to cancel because she didn't like the idea that those who disagreed with her might have a louder voice than her. She is a coward and a liar.
How about you give us some evidence of the violence you've suggested was present? Or is backing up your words not something you like to do anymore?




Lucylastic -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:46:18 AM)

bah, he cant admit he is wrong so Im giving up now:) better things to do with my time, nice to see you Philo




Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 10:52:32 AM)


The news reports that were out initially have been canceled, in fact you can't find any real news about the event online at all, can you.

It must be like China or Cuba or the old Soviet Russia up there, if it isn't news thats blessed by the liberal elite then it didn't happen.

But by the same token neither can you prove your bs story that they were all these wonderful, peaceful, smiling, open-minded people who caused her to have to stay away.

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ORIGINAL: philosophy

.....bollocks. She decided to cancel because she didn't like the idea that those who disagreed with her might have a louder voice than her. She is a coward and a liar.
How about you give us some evidence of the violence you've suggested was present? Or is backing up your words not something you like to do anymore?




philosophy -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 11:43:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The news reports that were out initially have been canceled, in fact you can't find any real news about the event online at all, can you.


....well, gosh, i think your google must be broken then....

http://www.coulterincanada.com/

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/03/20/13300156.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/pointofview/2010/03/ann-coulter.html

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It must be like China or Cuba or the old Soviet Russia up there, if it isn't news thats blessed by the liberal elite then it didn't happen.

But by the same token neither can you prove your bs story that they were all these wonderful, peaceful, smiling, open-minded people who caused her to have to stay away.



.......well, as i am capable of finding a few articles about the event and you can't, then perhaps the only conclusion that can be drawn is that us liberals are better at google than you.

As for those who exercised their free speech against Coulter, not all of them were wonderful or smiling. Probably not all of them were open minded either.......something they have in common with La Coulter, which probably wouldn't cheer them up. However, they were peaceful. At least as peaceful as the Tea Baggers you are so fond of.




Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 12:08:06 PM)


Sorry to have to be the one to inform you of this but you seem to be losing your mind, because none of the links you posted gives even a hint as to why Coulter had to cancel her speaking engagement in Calgary.




Sanity -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 12:37:34 PM)


Here - this is from Esquire, and written by someone who obviously cant stand Ann Coulter:

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Way to go, Canada! You've achieved the nearly-impossible, and made Ann Coulter a nearly sympathetic figure. And you've got me defending the tiresome freak. First, some functionary from one of your universities actually threatened that if she wasn't nice when she showed up in your country for her scheduled speaking engagements this week, that she could be prosecuted for her ideas, and then when your idiot mob gathered at the University of Ottawa last night and threatened violence (I must say, Canadian and violence are two words that you normally don't think of together), the local constabulary succumbed to mob justice and shut 'er down. Free speech sucks, huh, Canada?


You know, it's funny: If you hadn't as a country lost your shit last night, and the corrosive harridan had been allowed to freely speak at the academic institution which invited her to speak, you would have in turn been allowed to mock her and laugh at her and put her "ideas" in the garbage where they belong. She would have gotten back across the border to make our lives miserable again, and it would have almost been as if her speech had never happened. She and her little comedy routine would have been appropriately marginalized. That's how the transaction goes in a free marketplace of ideas. That's how a sensible people processes ideas, good and bad. Instead, you frothed at her idiot provocation and you suppressed her speech and by doing so you have now made her ideas seem — to a certain cohort — much more potent and perhaps even important than they ever ought to be regarded. By your suppression, you have exalted Ann Coulter, of all people. You have made her manifest. You have made her a free-speech martyr. She does not deserve this status — nor any status, really. And you have given the unholy operation at Fox News a legitimate issue to weaponize and use against the reasonable people of the world. If her schtick had long since lost its luster — which it certainly had, Canada — you have renewed her significance as a cultural and political figure.

Way to goddamn go, Canada!


Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/opinion/ann-coulter-canada-tour-032410#ixzz0jsYQ8elI







slvemike4u -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 1:08:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Yes, it all has its roots somewhere. But its not just the right that has people living on the fringes...

Article: Rove Gets Branded 'War Criminal' At Book Signing

Video: Arresting Rove?

Not to mention, Ann Coulter couldn't speak on a college campus up in Canada.

Its the left thats come unhinged, in fact, I would say that most of the left is wayyyyyyyyyy out there.



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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Actually, it was an e-mail campaign, which we all know has its root somewhere. The web page the article refers too is one of the facebook accounts owned by the woman they arrested.




Of course you would...but since most of us question your very....(for lack of a better word here)...sanity,this suprises no one.




jlf1961 -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 2:56:44 PM)

No matter how much you bring up Ann Coulter, the fact is that it was a right wing group that was raided for planning seditionist acts against the government, which also happened during BOTH the Bush sr and Bush jr administrations.




Lucylastic -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 3:03:39 PM)

you know theres gonna be the same said about this bunch too Jlf...set up by their own goverrnment...the tyranny, the collusion and blame on poor innocent patriots.
They believe it... already!




slvemike4u -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 3:16:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


She was forced to cancel because the building was surrounded by vicious, violent, hateful Liberals.



Sanity,how about you stop dickering with the meanings of words....she either chose to cancel, or she was barred from speaking(your oft stated opinion).
Now unless the powers that be barred her from speaking,than bottom line she chose not to...her reasoning behind making that choice does not in any way shape or form change the fact that she chose to  not do so.
You want to offer mitigation..be my guest,but you don't get to alter a basic truth for sheer convienence.




kdsub -> RE: MI militia raided by FBI (4/1/2010 3:32:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


She was forced to cancel because the building was surrounded by vicious, violent, hateful Liberals.





I didn't see the House cancel when they were surrounded by tea party fanatics at the Capital steps..they had guts. I agree with Phil...coward through and through




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