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tazzygirl -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 10:41:36 AM)
quote: I guess you would because you make it the governments position to provide charity. Me - I give significantly to charity and would continue to do so for worthwhile issues such as childhood nutrition, even if it were not tax deductible. Meanwhile I'll continue to point out the irresponsibility of people who expect others to provide for their own children. If I did despise anyone it would be those who do not provide for their families. If the banks had not been bailed out, it would have been you among those who could not have provided for your family. Interesting take you have, considering you are so arrogant in your ability to not be affected by the capitalistic world. quote: If the 'Teamsters' managed to negotiate the bankruptcy of the private industries they used to serve - I would expect no different now that they've moved into the public sector for membership. The point remains, in the public sector the unions are bankrupting the government at every level. Sort of belies what you said previously... again... utter arrogance. Private and public are bankrupting the government... poor people are bankrupting the government... lazy and incompetent people are bankrupting the government. How about the corporations who play into the loopholes laws provide that are bankrupting the government? Im sure thats fine with you. Just business doing business. Yet you scorn people who do the same. quote: In private industry unions have a valuable place. They must cooperate with management or, as in the case of GM, the union workers are out of work. In the public sector they leach off the public trust and become a sanctimonious voting block supporting any candidate that will raise their benefits and pay structure. They have no 'boss' and no accountability. quote: "Whining and pages" - projecting yourself again are you? Why would I whine? I'm extremely happy, content, and thriving. Most of my recommendations for addressing all these issues would have a more detrimental impact on me. However, if pointing them out is troubling to you, if you are a failure, or consider your situation bad; that is a YOU problem. You go on, post after post, about laziness, incompetence, how you wish things (in this thread) would go back to the pre-60's. Seeing as how i recall you saying you were not of a white heritage, exactly where do you think you would be now if we were back in those glorious, fond, happy days of those yester-years? quote: I LOVE that people are lazy, incompetent, and want to rely on the government. Using those fundamental facts generates most of my personal success. Being a pragmatist, I know people like you don't realize you are being used, and actually desire to be used more. People like you make strategically investing in the ultimate corporate beneficiaries an easy task. Assmue much, dont ya. We all know what assumptions make out of the people doing them. I work hard, always have. I have a modest savings and investment, enough that i wont have to depend on SS. Nor do i have to move to another country out of fear that this one will take everything i have managed to swindle out of the poor and unfortunate, as you have so readily admitted. You are a user. And i thank you for admitting it. quote: As many as I can afford. Why not? More people like you, stupid enough to support politicians and political movements counter productive to personal achievements, are being indoctrinated every day by the current educational system. As I said, most of my positions would be detrimental to my personal finances. However as long as you, and your ilk are out there on the front lines holding the positions my portfolio will continue to be very healthy - thank you! Knowing it pisses you off to the point of generating emotions to "despise me" - encourages me to continue, expound, and expand! I'm a sadist you know! And this shows you to be a hypocrit. You whine about these companies, then blast anyone who defends the pubhlic interest and good in the application of such laws, Then turn around and make money on the very thing you are whining about. Come on, Merc.. whine some more. Show us what a true idiot you can be! quote: As an investor and owner of a few "small businesses"; we can't afford to hire, especially now, based on race or gender. We hire based upon results. I go further since when I was in the big corporate world, woman and minorities I hired and promoted suffered from the mistaken belief that their race and/or gender was a factor in my decision. I tell them outright and specifically, that it wasn't. I've never, big or little business, seen or even heard about race/gender based hiring. Nobody can afford that mentality except one - the government. When results aren't important you can prejudice your decision by attempting social engineering. It doesn't serve the individual or society, and ignorance is the basis for its support. That pot induced haze must have clouded your listening abilities in the past. Gender and racial based hiring was very much the forefront of practice among businesses, especially small businesses. Then again, when all you see is a dollar sign, you wont acknowledge much more than that. Congrats Merc.

kdsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 10:55:26 AM)
sorry back in a few.

brainiacsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:04:18 AM)
It is actually racism and I stated it as so. What part of that did you miss? I won't let you gloss over this one. Tancredo did more than just "mention immigrants," and there are more than a few members of the Tea Party who agree with him. Tancredo's sentiments are shared by the core of that movement. If you disagree with him, then come out and say so but don't pretend that racism isn't a factor in so much of the anger behind this movement. If you want people to focus on what you believe to be the core issue for the movement - budget deficits and government spending- then you have to distance yourself from those who say stupid racist things that cause thinking people to question their credibility. You are the one who keeps deflecting the conversation from the real issues because you are wasting so much of your time and energy defending the Tea Partiers. You could have turned this thread around pages ago because I know there are smart, willing people who would discuss the issues with you. I would be happy to have an informed, intelligent discussion on budgets, deficits, election demographics, the Constitution, role of government, etc, but I just don't think you are capable. quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Oh, I see. Its not actually RACISM but since you're desperately in need of a diversion from the real issue you'll CALL it racism, and then do your best to smear the entire movement with that same slander. One guest speaker at one event mentions immigrants and that justifies your alleging that they all hate blacks... Thank you for clearing that up. quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub When the only ignorance that one recognizes is that of the poor immigrants and people of color, then I call that racism. If Tancredo would have acknowledged that many of the white, heartland of America, Palin supportin, Bible thumpin, gun totin, govt protestin, salt of the earth participants of the Tea Party were also in need of a little education before being allowed to vote, then I would have agreed with him 100% in all regards.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:08:43 AM)
quote: it would have been you among those who could not have provided for your family. Interesting take you have, considering you are so arrogant in your ability to not be affected by the capitalistic world. Wrong fundamentally - I've had zero income and zero money and still managed to take care of my family without any government assistance - even unemployment. I am affected by the capitalistic world however I WORK within it, and don't whine, complain, or blame it for my personal situation like you do. Right however - I AM arrogant. quote: how you wish things (in this thread) would go back to the pre-60's. You go beyond misrepresentation and now just out and out lie! I NEVER want or even long for the past - I LOVE the present and all aspects of it! quote: Private and public are bankrupting the government It is impossible for a private sector union and/or corporation to bankrupt the government without direct, and foolish, government intervention. However, since they only need complicit politicians, public employee unions ARE bankrupting the government at every level. quote: Nor do i have to move to another country out of fear that this one will take everything i have managed to swindle out of the poor and unfortunate, as you have so readily admitted. You are a user. And i thank you for admitting it. I have no "fear" but as stated on numerous occasions, I take advantage of conditions. One big one is the ability to move out of the US. Entitlement users are users - if you are one you should be grateful to the entitlement payers. I've never "swindled" anyone. You must, if that's the trait you assign to acquiring whatever it is you have acquired. quote: And this shows you to be a hypocrite. You whine about these companies, then blast anyone who defends the pubhlic interest and good in the application of such laws, Then turn around and make money on the very thing you are whining about. Come on, Merc.. whine some more. Show us what a true idiot you can be! How can you see me both whining and being arrogant at the same time? Taking advantage of your support of government complicity points to who is a "true idiot'. Me - I made enough the week after this health care debacle passed through the purchase of stock to fully fund my next sojourn to Italy in May. I benefited more than most who see the Law as a panacea for their poor life choices and health concerns. If that represents "true idiocy" I hope to be as much of an "idiot" when the next debacle of social engineering is attempted. You are a key to that success. I hope you and those having a similar naive thought process keep being as 'smart' as you are! Please! quote: That pot induced haze must have clouded your listening abilities in the past. Gender and racial based hiring was very much the forefront of practice among businesses, especially small businesses. Then again, when all you see is a dollar sign, you wont acknowledge much more than that. Congrats Merc. "WAS"! When will you be off your meds and be able to speak to the present? Meanwhile, without any substantiation your position is as stupid as it is irrelevant. Your opinion is based upon what - entry level restaurant and bedpan cleaning work? (Feel it necessary to get in the mud when trying to discuss any issue with pigs.) Thanks Taz as long as I don't use the mind altering drugs you use - I'll be fine!

Musicmystery -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:19:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: "Bush did it", "Bush caused it", are given as valid cause/effect of the deficit, the wars in Afghanistan/Iraq, GITMO, the economy, unemployment, stagnant private industry growth, poverty, devalued dollar, China trade deficit, Iranian nuclear capability, global warming, and my dog having fleas. I have to run now, but actually, Reagan did it. His own economic people later admitted it was a failure, but people like the sound of Reagan's voice, and politicians noticed. Bush/Cheney recreated Reagan/Nixon policies, knowing they could get away with them. Does it serve your agenda to point something out like this? It indicates that the Democrats either as a majority party in Congress, or as President either followed the same path, as Obama did with Bush Stimulus II, were complicit, or impotent. Which one is your preference choice? Or has the revisionist history being taught gotten to the point that there was never a Democratic President or majority in either house of Congress since Reagan? Neither. You are imputing positions where none were stated. The approach we're on started with Reagan. Call it what you will, but a few theoretic approaches were taken as self-evident and failed. No magic money materialized. Several reasons for this, from systems working differently than individual input would indicate to simply rosy but unsupported assumptions. People like to hear it---simple, just cut taxes. The rest will all work out via the invisible hand. Bush I and Bob Dole ridiculed it in the 80 primary--"voodoo economic," "Reaganomics." It gets votes, though, so we've been following it ever since. Trouble is, it doesn't work, and is a recipe for ever increasing deficits.

Thadius -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:23:44 AM)
I simply refuse to believe that it is a choice of either or. I believe Jefferson summed up my feelings on what kind of America that I want in his firs inaugrural speech and a couple of others. quote: “Providence, which by all its dispensations proves that it delights in the happiness of man here and his greater happiness hereafter—with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.” ~ Thomas Jefferson, 1801 Inaugural speech and quote: The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. and quote: I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. and finally quote: That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves. Do not get me wrong I believe that there is a proper place for charity and helping our fellow man out, I just simply believe that those noble causes are best served by the people and not the government. For the more that government offers the tit for folks to suckle, the more dependant those folks become on that tit, and thus are less willing to criticize the government when it oversteps its boundaries in the name of helping people. Call me a greedy selfish prick because folks will claim I am against the poor and needy when I oppose these types of bills, I suggest that they have no clue what I or many other Americans do privately to help those very same people. I hope that answers the question of "Which America?". If not feel free to ask for clarification. I wish you all well, Thadius

tazzygirl -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:27:13 AM)
quote: Wrong fundamentally - I've had zero income and zero money and still managed to take care of my family without any government assistance - even unemployment. I am affected by the capitalistic world however I WORK within it, and don't whine, complain, or blame it for my personal situation like you do. Right however - I AM arrogant. So saying how children are being fed by the government, going on and on about how the system to feed said children is about govenrment welfare... and i am talking pages here from you... on this and so many other topics,, nothing but complaining, whining, and bullshit answers... i think you need a long session in front of a mirror. Labeling it a discussion on your end is not how it is coming across on my end. You are merely a man who got lucky, and who now sits on his high throne and belittles everyone around him who didnt get so lucky. quote: quote: how you wish things (in this thread) would go back to the pre-60's. You go beyond misrepresentation and now just out and out lie! I NEVER want or even long for the past - I LOVE the present and all aspects of it! What was established by subrob, and never disputed by you, was that the movement wanted to go back to the quote: Basically they want 1948-1965 back. quote: You go on, post after post, about laziness, incompetence, how you wish things (in this thread) would go back to the pre-60's. Seeing as how i recall you saying you were not of a white heritage, exactly where do you think you would be now if we were back in those glorious, fond, happy days of those yester-years? I have yet to see you disagree with this statement. And yet you talk about how this administration and certain previous others have eroded this government. I asked you a question, and you have yet to answer it. Its ok though, we both know where you would have ended up. quote: How can you see me both whining and being arrogant at the same time? Taking advantage of your support of government complicity points to who is a "true idiot'. Me - I made enough the week after this health care debacle passed through the purchase of stock to fully fund my next sojourn to Italy in May. I benefited more than most who see the Law as a panacea for their poor life choices and health concerns. If that represents "true idiocy" I hope to be as much of an "idiot" when the next debacle of social engineering is attempted. You are a key to that success. I hope you and those having a similar naive thought process keep being as 'smart' as you are! Please! Its quite easy to see whiners as being arrogant. The arrogance is born out of fear. I hope you make billions on me. I really do. So you can quickly move, and start your life in Italy. I really do! I hear taxes are up there! quote: "WAS"! When will you be off your meds and be able to speak to the present? Meanwhile, without any substantiation your position is as stupid as it is irrelevant. Your opinion is based upon what - entry level restaurant and bedpan cleaning work? (Feel it necessary to get in the mud when trying to discuss any issue with pigs.) Thanks Taz as long as I don't use the mind altering drugs you use - I'll be fine! And you honestly see that as having changed? Talk about mind altering drugs! Take another toke, Merc. It will seem even better then. LOL.. as far as bed cleaning work... been a while since you were in a hospital huh boy! So while you are making your monbey, and stressing out over your whines and bullshit complaints on message boards... that heart attack thing will hit. And you will be whining to some "bed pan cleaner" to make the pain go away! awww.. poor baby.. must really suck to feel that way. Always whining like a little boy. One day, you may grow up.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:54:18 AM)
quote: Several reasons for this, from systems working differently than individual input would indicate to simply rosy but unsupported assumptions. People like to hear it---simple, just cut taxes. The rest will all work out via the invisible hand. Bush I and Bob Dole ridiculed it in the 80 primary--"voodoo economic," "Reaganomics." It gets votes, though, so we've been following it ever since. Trouble is, it doesn't work, and is a recipe for ever increasing deficits. All of that is in the past and I don't see any point to discussing different perspectives. However, stipulating to the absolute truth in all you say, lets discuss the present. I see no effort or practical initiative floated by either party to "cut taxes". Indeed the talk of not sunsetting current tax rates for things like the 'death tax' are off the table. To me, it seems that the only thing that remains is cuts to entitlement programs and benefits. The biggest expense for any 'business' including government is employees and pensions. For example, he said that for some employees, pension benefits as a percentage of employee compensation have soared from 14% to 40% over the years. If the city tried to roll back benefits now, it would not be able to hire anyone, he said. And the city must divert any increase in revenue to pay for pension benefits instead of services. "We must change this system. It's unsustainable," Mr. Parness said. There is no initiative to reduce the amount or level of compensation to government workers. Stipulating to a rare exception outside current recollection, the same can not be said of any other business. If there is a 'slippery slope' entrenched in this Administration's policies it is that draining more from the economy to fund and expand entitlement programs and hiring new workers within the current compensation matrix is, as the city administrator points out in the WSJ, unsustainable. Not because the government can't or won't print more money, but because of the pragmatic result that private sector businesses and/or individuals are already close to being maxed out as a source of new revenue. Again, I'll point to CA as a benchmark reference for my position. In February of last year we were hit with the largest tax increase in the history of the county to address the 2009 budgetary shortfall. The result - lower revenue and a bigger short fail for 2010 which has yet to be addressed. The 'Govenator' has thrown up his hands. He attempted address the issue of compensation and benefits to public employees; but the union was too powerful and he failed. The pace of businesses and/or 'wealthy' individuals leaving CA is increasing. The encumbrance is appreciated by even the most radical liberal spenders in the CA Legislation and raising taxes this year isn't on the table. Nobody has a solution and the only Democrat who even wants the job of Governor is Jerry 'Moonbeam' Brown; more than likely running against a billionaire Republican as disconnected with reality as 'Moonbeam'. But that's what you get when anyone with the ability to add beyond 10 without taking their shoes off can appreciate that the State has been bankrupted by its history of entitlement programs and employees hired to implement them. It worked great in boom times - there are no boom times on the horizon. Is is your opinion that this is not representative national economics, having similar issues with one exception, the ability to print money, spend, and increase the deficit for as long as there is a buyer for its Bonds necessary to fund it? I'm not wanting or expecting any candidate to stand up and be elected on the words 'tax cut'. Indeed I'd vote against him/her. I'm waiting for a whisper of the word cut from any source, representing any party. However, directly in my opinion, as a result of the McCain-Feingold campaign funding law - that person will not be on November's ballot. Well off the OP topic; however question better asked and answered may not be going back in time to an age jaded version of the 'good old days' of America. It would be more enlightening to hear what logical projection is expected while on our current path, and/or what change in direction is necessary to avoid and/or achieve the outcome you and others seek using history as a confirming reference and not as an example?

slvemike4u -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 11:58:54 AM)
Bottom line as far as I'm concerned..if you sit around longing for the good old days of pre-1965 America you are either an avowed racist or in the closet over it.No thinking person can long for those days without acknowledging what was the major issue of the times....this was certainly not America's golden age,we were or should have been embarrassed by the sight of water hoses and German shepherds being turned loose on a particular segment of our society. While nominally fighting a war for freedom and democracy in South East Asia ,black Americans were treated as second class citizens at home and simultaneously being drafted into that sham war.Dying for a country which thought them "less than" If this is what you long for....than all other issues are just so much smoke and mirrors,mere window dressing...what you really want is your own water fountain....you just don't have the balls to ask for it!

popeye1250 -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:02:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Why don't you list for us some of the racist things Tancredo said in that speech, because there wasn't anything racist reported in the CBS article that was linked to up above. If you are you trying to suggest that his reference to the "Liberal Cult Of Multiculturalism" had anything to do with a racist remark then you don't know what he was really discussing. When the only ignorance that one recognizes is that of the poor immigrants and people of color, then I call that racism. If Tancredo would have acknowledged that many of the white, heartland of America, Palin supportin, Bible thumpin, gun totin, govt protestin, salt of the earth participants of the Tea Party were also in need of a little education before being allowed to vote, then I would have agreed with him 100% in all regards. Brainiac, which immigrants are you talking about? I don't know anyone who's against immigrants.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:08:27 PM)
quote: You are merely a man who got lucky, Yeah - I agree I was real "lucky" that I wasn't in my office in NYC when the planes it. However with that notable exception - I worked for everything I have and I am proud of it and myself. I'm sorry you don't feel the same way about yourself or are not in any position to know other people whose life isn't contingent on entitlement payments. quote: I have yet to see you disagree with this statement I always forget your ability to comprehend is disabled as member of the left behind educational system. I never long for, want to got back to, or think the 60's (50's, 70's, 80's, 90's, or the 00's) were better nor do I long to be living in them. If that wasn't clear - give yourself a high colonic and free up some brain capacity. quote: Its quite easy to see whiners as being arrogant. The arrogance is born out of fear. I hope you make billions on me. I really do. So you can quickly move, and start your life in Italy. I really do! I hear taxes are up there! Thanks - I've never had any problem paying any tax incurred, even here in CA where it represents the top end of the tax food chain. I have the same wish for myself as you! How nice! quote: And you honestly see that as having changed? Yes - and I've taken a direct part in helping implement that change. You? quote: So while you are making your monbey, "monbey" hurry up with that high colonic - your condition may be critical! quote: and stressing out over your whines and bullshit complaints on message boards... that heart attack thing will hit. Projecting me "stressing" is about a misplaced as considering my posts as "whining and complaining". I have never in my life been happier, more content, and LESS stressed! In the spirit of my "heart attack" I wish everyone you care for to get pancreatic cancer requiring you to clean their bed pans. I wlsh long term job security.

brainiacsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:11:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: subtee ~FR March 19 - 22 Bloomberg Poll OK...I'll handle this: Thanks for the timely and pertinent poll, tee. De Nada What does this poll say to you? It's interesting to me because I think it underscores what may be underneath all of the underlying bad feelings. What it says to me is maybe we're all a bunch of babies who want someone else to take necessary pain. What do you think other people think of this poll, tee? Let's ask them! What do you other people think of this poll? [;)] Oh subtee, we are not ignoring you, it's just that your shit don't stink. You can't come in to a thread like this and make a bunch a sense and point out the obvious and then expect us to respond how? When I read your poll my reaction was "duh, of course we want it all, our way, all the time." But a post like yours will derail a thread like this faster than Obama at Klan rally. Let me help you here - if you want to mix it up in these threads, you have to be a little provocative. Say something like: If that prick Obama wasn't so black, we wouldn't be spending so much of white peoples' money to create even more entitlements for his people. Or, if you are politically inclined to lean the other way, you could say something like: If white people weren't making so much money, black people wouldn't be so poor. Since Obama is half white, maybe he will finally correct these inequalities. You see? Now come back and try it again...

divi -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:13:25 PM)
subteebaby... I find what works better than that is to show some boobs and gash..

brainiacsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:15:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 [...] Brainiac, which immigrants are you talking about? I don't know anyone who's against immigrants. I was referring to a speech Tom Tancredo made at the Tea Party convention in Nashville. A couple of people have posted a link to that speech earlier in this thread. Edited to add that I am at this moment watching a story on CNN about the anti-immigrant undertone at the Tea Party Express gathering. I will switch over to Fox to see what they have to say on the matter.

jlf1961 -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:17:09 PM)
You know, the sixties and seventies werent that bad, if you ignore the racism, civil unrest, riots, war, war protests, the shooting of students at kent state.... If you ignore all that those times were a time of innocence and ignorance.

Musicmystery -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:18:52 PM)
quote: Again, I'll point to CA as a benchmark reference for my position. ... Is is your opinion that this is not representative national economics, having similar issues with one exception, the ability to print money, spend, and increase the deficit for as long as there is a buyer for its Bonds necessary to fund it? Merc, I don't essentially disagree with anything you raise, but I'll clarify these two points. California is in a unique situation. Their proposition style of governance has allowed that system to (1) mandate programs and (2) prevent raising revenue to fund them. [In other words, all of government, regardless of party, has its hands tied.] This makes governing, which after all is making choices, virtually impossible, as the conflicting mandates force decisions no one wants to make. Short of changing the system or voters waking up and realizing services cost money, that's likely to get worse before it gets better, no matter whom they elect. National politics is in a different, less mandated denial, closer to New York State. For twelve terms, Pataki, anxious to up his credentials for a national bid, cut taxes, while at the same time funding government with increased fees and billions of borrowing. Since he did this during economic expansion, and as 20% of NYS revenues come from Wall St., he got away with it, since people generally didn't notice New York's growth lagged behind the nation's. That's more indicative of the situation we're in (by which I mean from Reagan to now, versus any particular partisan blame). People are in an anti-government mood (It was Reagan who preached "the problem is government"), and they've been conditioned to believe all spending is bad and all tax cuts are beneficial, regardless of the situation. Politicians who know better also know those people vote, so we have a series of short term decisions for political and popular expediency leading to long term disaster. If instead of tax cuts we had continued collecting revenue as we always had, and if we had made simple small adjustments to entitlement programs, all would be fine. Agreed, that's in the past, but it informs the present--the choices are harder now that we've waited, but we still have to make those choices, and they will still get worse the longer we wait.

popeye1250 -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:24:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Bottom line as far as I'm concerned..if you sit around longing for the good old days of pre-1965 America you are either an avowed racist or in the closet over it.No thinking person can long for those days without acknowledging what was the major issue of the times....this was certainly not America's golden age,we were or should have been embarrassed by the sight of water hoses and German shepherds being turned loose on a particular segment of our society. While nominally fighting a war for freedom and democracy in South East Asia ,black Americans were treated as second class citizens at home and simultaneously being drafted into that sham war.Dying for a country which thought them "less than" If this is what you long for....than all other issues are just so much smoke and mirrors,mere window dressing...what you really want is your own water fountain....you just don't have the balls to ask for it! Mike, and don't forget all those black churches that got burned down in Arkansas.

brainiacsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:27:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: divi subteebaby... I find what works better than that is to show some boobs and gash.. You mean all I had to do was show a little boobage instead of trying to use big words, impeccable logic, some wit and humor and an occasional well placed insult? Why didn't somebody tell me this 9 pages ago?

subtee -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:28:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub Let me help you here - if you want to mix it up in these threads, you have to be a little provocative. Say something like: If that prick Obama wasn't so black, we wouldn't be spending so much of white peoples' money to create even more entitlements for his people. Or, if you are politically inclined to lean the other way, you could say something like: If white people weren't making so much money, black people wouldn't be so poor. Since Obama is half white, maybe he will finally correct these inequalities. You see? Now come back and try it again... Ok, lemme see Kenya believe dis lite-beer-drinkin, grey-poupon-smackin, lei-ing around half-a-crackah? (not entirely sure of the hyphenation here) Or Pair-a Palin’s brain is as empty as her twat after squirting out Bark, Ebil, Bipper, Grit and Tramper.

brainiacsub -> RE: Which America? (3/31/2010 12:30:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub Let me help you here - if you want to mix it up in these threads, you have to be a little provocative. Say something like: If that prick Obama wasn't so black, we wouldn't be spending so much of white peoples' money to create even more entitlements for his people. Or, if you are politically inclined to lean the other way, you could say something like: If white people weren't making so much money, black people wouldn't be so poor. Since Obama is half white, maybe he will finally correct these inequalities. You see? Now come back and try it again... Ok, lemme see Kenya believe dis lite-beer-drinkin, grey-poupon-smackin, lei-ing around half-a-crackah? (not entirely sure of the hyphenation here) Or Pair-a Palin’s brain is as empty as her twat after squirting out Bark, Ebil, Bipper, Grit and Tramper. Okay now...que Sanity...

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