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Raiikun -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 6:49:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
The guy obviously wants to sink his business down the bog.


Doubtful. Considering the area he's in his predominantly Republican, this news probably is bringing him increased business from people who agree with him.




barelynangel -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 7:13:14 AM)

~~ FR~~ as its just a general response to a quote someone posted i saw.

I doubt this will sink his business at all, while it may drive some people away, there are people who will most likely go in to speak to him about his sign and then get his viewpoint on a more personal level. This could actually drum up business for him. People love to be offended but RARELY do people who are offended actually just snif and walk away. They want to have their say, so they will go in especially if they are offended and wanting to "confront" him. People will probably like to hear their or a doctor's point of view on such a thing as health care and the effects it will have on them through a doctor's eyes. Even if they are offended at the sign, they will want to hear why he did it and when he tells them -- it probably will keep many of them as well as spread the word concept.

That is the fun thing about offense, many times its easy to manipulate people into being offended so they will demand you explain yourself. Its why boycotts don't always work well with just boycotts. There is no real confrontation, so people get bored. grins these boards are a perfect example -- its not hard to offend people in the general public, and if one person starts harumphing in outrage lol others will follow. However, rarely do you see people simply ignore something used to manipulate people into feeling offended by something that wasn't specifically directed at them but was made in general. Its because people take things personally and like to feel offended so they can speak their view points.

Offensive material is a perfect way to start communications between beliefs.


its hard to stand your ground when no one is there to acknowledge your standing your ground because you are offended.



angel





LaTigresse -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 7:20:04 AM)

Silly me. I don't CARE what the politics of my doctor might be. I only care that he/she is a competent doctor.

As for the doctor in the OP...........what a putz! I wouldn't go to them simply because they mixed politics with their profession. If politics is more important to a doctor than providing good medical care.......screaming incompetency to me.




Mercnbeth -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 7:24:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You constantly brag about having learned nothing in school but now you would try to teach English grammar...irony of the first order.

Good for you 'x' - you can complete a sentence; next step a coherent, on-topic, thought.


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
First, Merc, i could care less what your thoughts on this matter may be..

Exemplified by responding to it.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Im quite sure you are laughing maniacly, crowing how corporations fucked the children once again.

Corporations didn't write the Bill, didn't vote for or against the Bill, and didn't sign the Bill into Law; perhaps they paid for it - but the Democrats and Obama got the PAC money.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Thrilled, arent you. Happy. Gleeful.

Thrilled because my low expectations were met? No not really. I'm never thrilled to witness waste and failure. However I am pleased to have my reasoning and analytical skills prove to be accurate. Someday, perhaps as a fluke - you may feel the same.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
You are a sad little man, merc
To be wrong twice is such a short sentence. I'm not little - and I have never been happier. I think you are projecting again.

Also, in this case - I've never been more right regarding this Law and my expectations of Congress and this Administration.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
this is the last time i will respond to any post made by you.
You've made that promise so many times! You have the same integrity as the people you faithfully support!

A good summary - Obama Lied - Children still die!




rulemylife -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 7:25:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

~~ FR~~ as its just a general response to a quote someone posted i saw.

I doubt this will sink his business at all, while it may drive some people away, there are people who will most likely go in to speak to him about his sign and then get his viewpoint on a more personal level. This could actually drum up business for him. People love to be offended but RARELY do people who are offended actually just snif and walk away. They want to have their say, so they will go in especially if they are offended and wanting to "confront" him. People will probably like to hear their or a doctor's point of view on such a thing as health care and the effects it will have on them through a doctor's eyes. Even if they are offended at the sign, they will want to hear why he did it and when he tells them -- it probably will keep many of them as well as spread the word concept.



Are you kidding?

Most doctors won't even spend the time to answer questions about what you are seeing them about.

And you think he is going to spend his time having a political discussion?

Then again, I saw his interview so he might.  He's really not the brightest bulb on the string.  While I was watching I kept wondering how he ever managed to get through medical school.




kittinSol -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 7:37:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol
The guy obviously wants to sink his business down the bog.


Doubtful. Considering the area he's in his predominantly Republican, this news probably is bringing him increased business from people who agree with him.


It's pretty much unanimous then [8D]? The quack in question is a retard? We pray that he will get to examine plumetting numbers of prostate glands?

May he catch a UTI.

NEXT!




thompsonx -> RE: One Doctor's Response (4/6/2010 11:51:23 AM)

 as many Doctors already do in the current wonderful government run medical facility - not take patients which would require him to base his medical care on a government gate-keeper using bureaucratic mandates for what care he can and can't provide.

Pretty much like the private health care insurance providers do now.  So your point would be???




thompsonx -> RE: One Doctor's Response (4/6/2010 11:57:23 AM)

I live in a house and deduct my mortgage interest expense. Like the doctor, I may not agree or support the government's manipulation of the economy, I'm directly involved with groups seeking to eliminate that and other similar special interest deductions, but in the meantime - I will exploit and take advantage of all of them.
Which would indicate that your moral compas points directly at your bank account.
Kinda like Nathan Bedford Forrest(slave trader and founder of the ku klux klan) giving a lecture on the moral failings of slavery.




Raiikun -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 5:47:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's pretty much unanimous then [8D]?


Clearly not. :p

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The quack in question is a retard?


Considering with one sign he went from being a total unknown to being discussed nationally? Some would say getting this much free publicity with one sign is a stroke of genious.

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We pray that he will get to examine plumetting numbers of prostate glands?


If this is really what you want, the smart thing to do would be to quit talking about him and giving him free publicity.

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May he catch a UTI.

NEXT!


So much anger and hatred.




tazzygirl -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 5:55:34 PM)

Many Physicians are weighing in on this topic... and not in a favorable light.




thompsonx -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 6:23:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Many Physicians are weighing in on this topic... and not in a favorable light.


You mean it is bad PR?




tazzygirl -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 6:26:19 PM)

I mean that many in the Medical Field feel his position has no place in medicine.

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Dr. Cassell's angry backlash against Americans who support health care reform was both unethical and immoral, in my opinion. But it was also extremely short-sighted. Any one who pays taxes, whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent, helped provide Dr. Cassell with his training in urology and most likely helps his practice run now. Folks like Dr. Cassell need to find better outlets for their anger while keeping their office doors open to all who seek medical care. Any American-trained physician could truthfully be called 'Dr. Government', and we all need to repay our debt to society by caring for any one who needs it, regardless of political affiliation.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-lovinger/dr-government-will-see-yo_b_524866.html




kittinSol -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/6/2010 6:47:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun
So much anger and hatred.


Nah, it's called humour - UTIs aren't typically life-threatening, especially to a urologist. Epic fail: live and learn, mate.




luckydawg -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 1:10:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I mean that many in the Medical Field feel his position has no place in medicine.

quote:

Dr. Cassell's angry backlash against Americans who support health care reform was both unethical and immoral, in my opinion. But it was also extremely short-sighted. Any one who pays taxes, whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent, helped provide Dr. Cassell with his training in urology and most likely helps his practice run now. Folks like Dr. Cassell need to find better outlets for their anger while keeping their office doors open to all who seek medical care. Any American-trained physician could truthfully be called 'Dr. Government', and we all need to repay our debt to society by caring for any one who needs it, regardless of political affiliation.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-lovinger/dr-government-will-see-yo_b_524866.html



"many"????? all you have is one leftist doctor, posting on a left wing blog, who apperantly thinks the doctor is refusing to see patients based on thier politics.


"Many" is one of the lamest weasel words there is. It means nothing in this context, just a waste of electrons. THat you back it up with an example of ONE is just laughable.




Raiikun -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 5:35:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol


quote:

ORIGINAL: Raiikun
So much anger and hatred.


Nah, it's called humour - UTIs aren't typically life-threatening, especially to a urologist. Epic fail: live and learn, mate.


I was kinda including your general posting history when I made that observation. ;)




tazzygirl -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 6:02:25 AM)

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"If I was one of his patients, I would not walk away, I'd run," said Patsy Robertson, 73, of Winter Springs, a Democrat and retired nurse. "He does not need to be taking care of people's lives if that's his mentality."



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Sandra Boynton, 68, a retired Florida nurse now living in Idaho, described Cassell's sign as "repugnant" behavior.

"As a nurse, I was taught you don't refuse care to anyone based on anything that's your personal views," she said. "I simply cannot imagine any nurse behaving in this self-centered manner. This man is a disgrace to his profession."


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But Cassell's former medical partner in Eustis, urologist Dr. James Young, 57, a self-described liberal Democrat, said a patient's politics should be no more important to a doctor than his favorite baseball team.

"It'd be like me saying I'm not going to treat a Cubs fan," said Young, a lifelong fan of the St. Louis Cardinals. "There are a number of thoughtful doctors who feel like Jack and probably a like number who feel the exact opposite, but they're not going to put a sign on their door. As doctors, our chief concern should always be what's best for the patient."


http://southflorida.sun-sentinel.com/news/os-florida-doctor-shuns-obama-supporters-20100403,0,5294791.story

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"Ninety-nine percent of the people that come in here are being educated to the facts, and the one person who doesn't want me to be his doctor, fine. Small price to pay," Cassell said.


http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2010/4/3/603021.html?title=Doctor%27s%20office%20sign%20warns%20away%20Obama%20supporters&cid=rss

Yet, according to the following, he doesnt know whats in the law, and is only going by what he was told. So much for education.

http://www.alan.com/2010/04/03/doctor-against-treating-obama-supporters-admits-not-knowing-whats-in-health-reform-bill/

Another outspoken Dr.

http://healthinsurance.about.com/b/2010/04/05/shame-on-dr-jack-cassell.htm

now, lucky, a quick lesson on the medical community. for even ONE Dr to come out publically against another is rare. For a few... unheard of. This issue is drawing deep lines within the medical community. Just because YOU have not heard the rumblings does not mean they are not there. You just dont have the ability tio listen very well.







Marc2b -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 6:34:42 AM)

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I've always had the utmost respect for you Canadians. I can't even imagine how hard it must be to get through the day, constantly tripping over all the corpses of your friends and relatives who died from lack of medical care. How do you manage? How do you even drive down the streets? Do you have to have little snowplows on the front of all your cars, to clear the carcasses from the road?


[EMPHASIS MINE]

They manage by driving across the border and using our doctors whenever their system fails them.  I live twenty minutes from the border and it is not at all unusual to see Ontario licence plates in parking lots of doctor's offices here. 




Marc2b -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 6:46:54 AM)

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Personally, I think he made a bad business decision by expressing his political bias.  But it is his right to express these opinions, just like its our right to express ours.  Sometimes though, you have to admit (or learn the hard way), there's a time and place for everything.  Whether or not it really was a laughable joke, as the OP said, will be up for the Dr to determine as he either loses business or not.


BINGO!

Whenever I have a customer expressing political opinions I am always in exact agreement:

Customer: "Bush is a brain dead chimp!  He's destroying the Constitution!  We are living under a facist dictatorship!"
Me:  "Undoubtedly!  Most certainly!   It cannot be contradicted!  Will that be cash or credit?"

Customer:  "Obama is an utter moron!  He's destroying the Constitution!  We are living under a socialist dictatorship!"
Me:  "Ayup!  Ayup!  Ayup!  Will that be cash or credit?"






truckinslave -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 6:49:48 AM)

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PS: as for his freedom of speech... give me a break. Nobody ever suggested it should be suppressed in any kind of way. But as a doctor, he should choose: patients, or the tea party movement


Care to try to square that ciecle?




truckinslave -> RE: One Doctor's Resonse (4/7/2010 7:04:06 AM)

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You can't discriminate based on skin color, right? How is this that different?


There is a law against the former. There is not a law against the latter.

The week Obama was elected I fired the two guys on my payroll who voted for him. And told them why.




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