RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence

RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion

Message

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:03:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne its doubtful anyone will notice it. Not in a sense they go OMG what a change. What will change is the court system mostly. That and the only line of defense from a runaway government is the 4th branch of government is the "Peoples Grand Jury". These are jury members who are unpaid, not jury for hire registered on dunn and braddstreet as a thriving business entity making shit loads of money processing violations and infractions like farting in public et al Why do you keep peddling this thoroughly debunked drivel? There has never been any such thing as "Peoples Grand Juries" they are not part of common law and certainly exist no where in the civil or criminal code. What these traitors are doing is trying to hold a coup and they're hoping the rest of us just go along. Note that this is the same bullsjit the freeman movement tried back in the late 90's. They got famous for trying to enforce liens their "ourts" had imposed. BTW I've been searching and would appreciate any info, there have been claims that active duty military personel acted as the so called provost marshalls that delivered this groups demands. Has anyone seen any evidence that this is so? Never? How the hell you think this country was created? Debunked? ou should consider finding yourself a new buzz word after all you conspiracy theorists fell on your asses and got your noses wiped in it with 911. If you want to propaggrandize you must practice not being so obvious about it and when you try to throw shit at the wall hoping will stick at least have some to throw. Otherwise I found your post hilarious since below is what its all about! TRAITORS TO WHAT KEN? quote: These public servants have a choice: Swear an OATH to support the U.S. Constitution OR be replaced immediately or even Arrested. Any failure on their part to comply after 72 hours is considered to be an act of TREASON. Backed by the provost marshals, this is CM parlor talk, but it does remove any doubt which side of the fence you are on. I have no fucking idea what you just said. Do you? well you need to understand how the government was created, its covenants, obligations, and a fairly good understanding of the us code. Its not to late to get started you know. yeh of course I understand. Its just sad so few others understand.

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:06:13 PM)
Like I said its all fraud. they dont remotely follow the rules here is one of my favorites. Tells a big story you know •Terminate illicit corporations posing as legitimate governments, in particular the territorial jurisdiction United States Federal Corporation (corp. ref. 28 U.S.C. 3002) posing as the de jure United States of America.

thornhappy -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:11:14 PM)
It's kind of fascinating, like a train wreck is, to watch pahunk and realone exist in their own little bubble universe, quite divorced from reality. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy hahaha. greeting to the City of London!!! I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate.

pahunkboy -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:11:56 PM)
quote: City of London quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy hahaha. greeting to the City of London!!! I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:16:52 PM)
yes I know.... when you swim in shit all your life and someone starts spraying air freshener and gives you a nice soapy high colonic it can be quite shocking at first. More true colors? So explain what your problem is with what these guys are doing: quote: These public servants have a choice: Swear an OATH to support the U.S. Constitution OR be replaced immediately or even Arrested. Any failure on their part to comply after 72 hours is considered to be an act of TREASON. quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy It's kind of fascinating, like a train wreck is, to watch pahunk and realone exist in their own little bubble universe, quite divorced from reality. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy hahaha. greeting to the City of London!!! I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate.

rulemylife -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:17:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne well you need to understand how the government was created, its covenants, obligations, and a fairly good understanding of the us code. Its not to late to get started you know. yeh of course I understand. Its just sad so few others understand. I know, it is sad. What's the us code by the way? Is that the code us live by?

DomKen -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Like I said its all fraud. they dont remotely follow the rules here is one of my favorites. Tells a big story you know •Terminate illicit corporations posing as legitimate governments, in particular the territorial jurisdiction United States Federal Corporation (corp. ref. 28 U.S.C. 3002) posing as the de jure United States of America. No it doesn't. You and the scum trying to foment rebellion are making a big ado about nothing, A single bullet point in the definition of United States, in this section of the USC, allows for the shorthand use of United States when the acting party could be any specific agency or in some cases one of a number of actual and real federal corporations we've have created, AMTRAK being a prime example. From this single thing these people have spun the whole fantasy that the US government was secretly replaced by a corporation.

rulemylife -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:22:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London Yes, and your point being what? That the Queen controls the world and we have never achieved independence? I think there was a war somewhere involved in that which might prove you wrong.

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:28:30 PM)
ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation. It wasnt replaced at all. The corporation was made in plain view of everyone. Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know. No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911. Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo. Well times a changin and we have internet today and hords of people and even a few turn on me's scouring over the law. Oh and btw that short hand use has been abused. You know, syntax terrorism against the people of this country. Do you know what that is Ken? That is when you abuse the language. to + too = fore get it?

rulemylife -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:38:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation. It wasnt replaced at all. The corporation was made in plain view of everyone. Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know. No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911. Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo. So really Real, how did you get to be "in the know"?

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 5:46:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation. It wasnt replaced at all. The corporation was made in plain view of everyone. Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know. No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911. Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo. So really Real, how did you get to be "in the know"? The only people who can ever be in the know are people who do not have an agenda and seek out the truth. Anyone with an agenda is forever lost. This is history in the making, according that write up grand juries in every state! woohoo! Oh and backed by the provost marshal! Now thats some serious shit! It also at that point goes without saying that they have standing in the law. I do have to laugh at these people who would call those who force the public officials to actually take the oath to uphold the constitution as required by law traitors. It really makes you wonder? ps: the latest I have heard is that some judges are stepping down from the bench because they recognize whats around the corner for them.

pahunkboy -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 6:22:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London Yes, and your point being what? That the Queen controls the world and we have never achieved independence? I think there was a war somewhere involved in that which might prove you wrong. then one must consider Rome. The Vatican. Always follow the money. IE Goldman Sachs. But yeah- YOU are a debt slave- forever. You are as free as a debt slave! Real One- I call for a JUBILEE! and NOW!

pahunkboy -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 6:23:46 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_%28Christian%29

Thadius -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 6:37:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation. It wasnt replaced at all. The corporation was made in plain view of everyone. Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know. No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911. Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo. So really Real, how did you get to be "in the know"? The only people who can ever be in the know are people who do not have an agenda and seek out the truth. Anyone with an agenda is forever lost. This is history in the making, according that write up grand juries in every state! woohoo! Oh and backed by the provost marshal! Now thats some serious shit! It also at that point goes without saying that they have standing in the law. I do have to laugh at these people who would call those who force the public officials to actually take the oath to uphold the constitution as required by law traitors. It really makes you wonder? ps: the latest I have heard is that some judges are stepping down from the bench because they recognize whats around the corner for them. Evening Real, The only problem with your opening statement is that you obviously have an agenda, even if it is just getting the word out, which would by your definition make you not in the know and forever lost. While I have no problem with having the Govs take an oath to uphold the constitution, I think that doing so via ultimatum seems a bit on the wild side. If what this group suggests is true, then it should be quite easy for them to get these folks out via legal means or the ballot box. Declaring themselves militia de facto does not make it so, and they would also have to follow the constitutions of the various states that formed the nation de jure. Hate to say it, but I think this one is out of play...

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 7:06:42 PM)
Evenin, well I did not post either of the threads on the subject but I am well informed on the topic and did explain it accordingly. So I am not "pushing it" as such unless you mean that my views agree with "The Rule of Law" rather than the abuses that are going on in the trust and debtor creditor world with these invisible contracts. For instance by the time they get done hypothecating a lousy traffic ticket they will hypothecate it up to 2 million bucks. Its all about money not justice, they want your money, that was the sole reason for the patriot act. The problem is that the better people behave the more they have to impose on and into peoples lives to fuel the system. Its just history repeating itself.... Its really a lot easier to get them to take their oath and put it on record because that is a pure clear cut violation of the public trust that even people who have zippo understanding of the law can immediately connect with. Trying to get them out when they violate your rights in office has a huge delay (for governors) by the time you run it through court and ......... Judges are the most important imo, because they can and do collude to dismiss evidence for your defense. If you are fighting another party not related to the government then you might get a fair hearing but anytime you go up against the government they stack that deck so high against you that you cant see the top. Militia? I think you are confused with another thread. This about fighting with pen and paper and with backing from the existing provost marshal. Be careful about what ron says because he enjoys completely mischaracterizing issues that run contrary to the fraudulent government we now enjoy that does not understand the word "re-present".

Thadius -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 8:11:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Evenin, well I did not post either of the threads on the subject but I am well informed on the topic and did explain it accordingly. So I am not "pushing it" as such unless you mean that my views agree with "The Rule of Law" rather than the abuses that are going on in the trust and debtor creditor world with these invisible contracts. For instance by the time they get done hypothecating a lousy traffic ticket they will hypothecate it up to 2 million bucks. Its all about money not justice, they want your money, that was the sole reason for the patriot act. The problem is that the better people behave the more they have to impose on and into peoples lives to fuel the system. Its just history repeating itself.... Its really a lot easier to get them to take their oath and put it on record because that is a pure clear cut violation of the public trust that even people who have zippo understanding of the law can immediately connect with. Trying to get them out when they violate your rights in office has a huge delay (for governors) by the time you run it through court and ......... Judges are the most important imo, because they can and do collude to dismiss evidence for your defense. If you are fighting another party not related to the government then you might get a fair hearing but anytime you go up against the government they stack that deck so high against you that you cant see the top. Militia? I think you are confused with another thread. This about fighting with pen and paper and with backing from the existing provost marshal. Be careful about what ron says because he enjoys completely mischaracterizing issues that run contrary to the fraudulent government we now enjoy that does not understand the word "re-present". Do you believe that the only tool to defend the constitution at the hands of a militia are weapons? I believe that the pen and the ballot are the primary tools to be taken in hand. I just worry that too many folks will take the extreme stance of believing that the best way to institute change is via violent revolution. Don't be mistaken, if the day ever comes that it is the only way to guarantee the constitution is defended, I will stand my post. On the other hand, when you spout off with the same thing over and over, even when it doesn't apply to the topic or subject being discussed, it only detracts from some of the message that you are trying to get across. Whether I agree with it or not, the message becomes lost when the messenger acts like a drunken crack addict with a stutter. Know what I mean?

jlf1961 -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 8:27:34 PM)
The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.

Thadius -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 8:29:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence. Just curious, what part of their beliefs makes them a "right-wing" group?

DomKen -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 8:44:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence. Just curious, what part of their beliefs makes them a "right-wing" group? to start with their self identification. Then of course is their belief system.

Real0ne -> RE: FBI warns letters to governors could stir violence (4/2/2010 8:52:00 PM)
how did you combine all that?

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.078125