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The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:17:15 AM   
BeachMystress


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I ran into a "One True Way"er the other day. I was surprised. I've known this person in chat for quite some time. I've met them in person at dungeon functions once or twice. I was shocked. I'd no clue I personally knew any of the "One True Way"ers.

A young femsub (we'll call her kit) who visits the room in which we chat said that her Dom lets her sass back to him.. that he finds it funny. The "One True Way" sub immediately told kit that her Dom wasn't a true Dominant or Master and that kit wasn't a true sub.

I asked the "OTW" sub how she determined that kit's Master was neither a Master or a Dominant. She tole me that No Real True Dom would put up with that from his sub. That it was disrespectful and rude and she couldn't believe that kit claimed to be submissive. That her claiming submission disrespected all real true subs everywhere.. That she was a bottom maybe, but in no way a TRUE submissive.

I tried to point out to "OTW" that kit said her Dom liked it, and how does it make it dominance breaking thing if he enjoys her doing it. I was told that it just did. I tried to reason with "OTW," asking how it made someone less Dominant to do exactly what they want? I pointed out that it didn't make a Domme any less Dominant to give her sub a blow job if it is what she wants and she retains control of the act. That sent her into a bit of a tizzy. A Dominant would never... *eye roll*

When she wound down some, I asked her how Dominant it made someone to follow the rules set out by others. Well, that doesn't make a Dominant in either of our opinions. I mentioned that if someone who had a playful streak and enjoyed banter with their sub listened to "the way it is done" and altered their play style to fit in, they were no longer Dominant. They'd subbed to the will of those who say how it will be done. It isn't Dominant to do what everyone expects of you. It is Dominant to be in control and do what YOU want. "OTW" felt that was fine and good, as long as they "acted Dominant." *deep sigh* Needless to say, I did not manage to convert the "One True Way"er. I was disheartened to find One True Wayism so close to home.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:25:09 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Good story.  Honestly, I find it amusing to have a OTW, and horrific that one would be so blatantly rude about it.  I guess the energy that goes into keeping all reality and logic from their brain also short circuits the "keep your stupid ideas to yourself" switch.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:33:14 AM   
RavenMuse


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Status: offline 		OTWers tend to get a bit pissed at me.... something to do with me laughing at them so openly I suspect. That holds true wether its D/s, BDSM, paganism or whatever. There is only one OTW that is applicable to me and mine.... MY way.... and its ONLY applicable to me and mine. Anything else is mearly opinion and can be taken or ignored as appropriate by the person the opinion is shared with.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:46:25 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		<looks around, sips Her coffee and says>--hmmm tolerance and judgement seem to come to mind.
 
quote:

There is only one OTW that is applicable to me and mine.... MY way.... and its ONLY applicable to me and mine. Anything else is mearly opinion and can be taken or ignored as appropriate by the person the opinion is shared with.


I love this statement Raven, for that is how I live My life as well. My opinion about My life is all that matters, I tolerate others, I expect the same--in fact that's one reason I am not popular in the community  here, they are predominantly Dom oriented and I believe that Dominance is gender neutral.

 
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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:48:08 AM   
artglfr


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Status: offline 		That had to be so frustrating. You did all You could but after a while it is like arguing with a mule isn't it? Your way is the OTW for You as Mine is for me but from reading Your posts You seem open minded enough that Your OTW is flexible enough to change as You learn new tecniques, I constantly "steal" from other Tops male and female every one brings something unique and I often find a method amusing enough to give it a try and add to My OTW. It is exasperating that there are people like this isn't it?  Kink Forever, Art

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:48:20 AM   
meatcleaver


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Status: offline 		Orthodoxy and fixed attitudes always have a way of looking ridiculous if you give the people that hold them enough space.

Unless they are fundemental religionists with Armalites or Kalashnikovs that is. Well they still do look ridiculous but one doesn't want to give them space!

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:56:29 AM   
Wolfspet


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Status: offline 		I like meeting OTW's.  I usually make them burst a blood vessel by calling Wolf
"Yo, LordHighFuzzyButt".  What really screws them up is when he laughs & swats me on the ass.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 6:56:40 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		My question is how would this OTW sub know what a Dom would or should do? She isn't dominant so she'd have no way of knowing. A Dom/me does what they want to do and if he likes the sassy attitude that his sub has then as long as he is happy (and she) who cares?

I cannot abide these holier than thou types who think their way is the ONLY way. She needs to start thinking outside of the box, that is IF her Dom allows her to think. Maybe thats the problem right there... She's not intelligent enough to think on her all she knows is what she's spoonfed.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:02:58 AM   
RavenMuse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfspet
I like meeting OTW's.  I usually make them burst a blood vessel by calling Wolf
"Yo, LordHighFuzzyButt".  What really screws them up is when he laughs & swats me on the ass.


I would just hope not to be taking a drink at the time, else I might get an impromptu sinus wash!

*Has sudden visions of Chewbacca as a Dom*


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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:07:05 AM   
CERCKL


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Status: offline 		Cool...I love fundamentalist of ALL sorts! ...and I've been good for awhile now, can I play, can I play??? He-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-re OTW'er... I found your whi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ip...

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:07:56 AM   
LittleKitten1986


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Status: offline 		i personally think that there a multiple of ways within BDSM it's all how  you and your Dom/Domme are. Some though have a more stricter way of being taught, and this must have been taught, honestly she makes me feel like she has been trained in gorean, duue to the fact that in Gor a sub Never  sasses the Dom or it could earn them quite a heavy punishment.  Then again thats just my thinking, and many Goreans call Gor "the one true way" thats what sparked my oponion. i may sound completly senseless  right now lol.
But, i do think  "OTW" handled herself wrong, as it is not her place to decide who is who and what is what, and in any case she overstepped her bounds this way. To each his own. Honestly i would not sass my Protector  or i might get punished. But,  at the same time i still have a voice to be used properly with manners of respect.
 
This is just my perspective on this.


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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:18:06 AM   
RavenMuse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleKitten1986
 honestly she makes me feel like she has been trained in gorean, duue to the fact that in Gor a sub Never  sasses the Dom or it could earn them quite a heavy punishment. 


Sassing in its full sense, quite probably.... sassing as in playful banter.... not from what I have seen!

Bottom line, if the OTWer's stance was Gorean then I would have thought that when told it was what pleased the Master then that would have been the end of the matter. The only arbitter of what is correct behaviour for a collared girl is he who owns her.

If any other free has a problem with that, having been told it was the masters will, then it should be the master they raise it with, no-one else..... If another girl has a problem with it... then it remains her problem, it isn't her place to question a Masters will in relation to another girl..... thats MY interpritation.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:20:21 AM   
LittleKitten1986


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Status: offline 		Maybe, but then again i  have seen gorean trained girls who are taught, anyone that does not go by Gor are not true, and thus they do not listen. i had a friend who trained Her submissives in this manner.

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:22:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

*Has sudden visions of Chewbacca as a Dom*



Stone the bloody crows mate did you have to do that?????  I just had to clean up the coffee that I sneazed reading that comment.... Cant get rid of Chewbacca and the subby Ewocks....... Or Chewwy collering Lord Vader


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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:22:42 AM   
RavenMuse


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Status: offline 		And thats the point when the OTWer would get laughed at and dismissed as being off with the fairys 

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:25:22 AM   
LittleKitten1986


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Status: offline 		-falls laughing-  now that probably would happen, but still some are trained in this manner, it's sad in my eyes, i hate gor. Yes the sub's are respectable SOMETIMES, but at the same time, they are not to speak unless told and what not, who wants a sub that does not speak>...*blinks*

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:25:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		OTW, wow I learn a new term everyday!

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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:25:30 AM   
RavenMuse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear
Stone the bloody crows mate did you have to do that?????  I just had to clean up the coffee that I sneazed reading that comment.... Cant get rid of Chewbacca and the subby Ewocks....... Or Chewwy collering Lord Vader


Blaim wolfspet, her comment put the image in there.... I had to share


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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:28:11 AM   
RavenMuse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleKitten1986

-falls laughing-  now that probably would happen, but still some are trained in this manner, it's sad in my eyes, i hate gor. Yes the sub's are respectable SOMETIMES, but at the same time, they are not to speak unless told and what not, who wants a sub that does not speak>...*blinks*


I think you've only experienced the side of Gor I have little respect for..... Maybe you should have a chatwith Ol' IronBear there..... He might give you a somewhat diffrent impression of the Gor lifestyle....... like many things there are elements that give it a bad rep!


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RE: The One True Way - 4/3/2006 7:29:03 AM   
LittleKitten1986


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Status: offline 		-pokes all of the smiley faces- i think i like this forum, a ton of talk, all interesting and fun. hahaha, then again i'm a silly kitty ^_^

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