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brainiacsub -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 3:33:12 PM)

Some do that, too.




Jeffff -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:05:05 PM)

As an aside.......


I want to slap your new tits around!




Elisabella -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:07:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

As an aside.......


I want to slap your new tits around!


Do guys really find that attractive? It looks like a picture of a butt.




Thadius -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:21:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

As an aside.......


I want to slap your new tits around!


Do guys really find that attractive? It looks like a picture of a butt.

Not me, I think they look way to fake. I prefer the look and feel of natural breasts, be they big or small.

And I agree that pic does resemble a big ole bubble butt.




slvemike4u -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:23:39 PM)

Kiss ass [:D]




Jeffff -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:23:47 PM)

I didn't say I wanted to marry her.

I just want to beat up her plastic tits.


What?... my kink is NOT ok?

You judgmental bastards!




Thadius -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 5:29:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Kiss ass [:D]

Not at all. For one she is taken, for two she is in Australia, and for three I got plenty of breasts running around the house already.

Although, I do always have room for looking at or fondling some more....

Just bein honest.




Sanity -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 7:03:42 PM)


How much of that crap do you expect me to watch?

I can't believe you take Front Line seriously, its hard to believe anybody would. The first clue that they're selling you half truths and lies should have been the spooky music they played in that piece as they showed Greenspans face. What the hell was that? It was like it was straight out of Scooby Doo! That was a hit piece. PBS generally is so far left they're not credible in commenting on anything of a political nature.

They quoted an author who is making money off of a book thats slams Greenspan, which is a blatant conflict of interest. They quote both Joe Nocerna and Timothy O'Brien of the New York Times, which is another notoriously far left organization. They quote Clinton adviser Joseph Stiglitz, who is absolutely on the far left. They play portions of interviews with people they didn't identify.. They cherry pick quotes from Greenspans' own writing and present them out of context,  they attack Greenspan through their underhanded attacks on Ayne Rand, they attack him by attacking Ronald Reagan and Libertarian free market ideals...

Contrasting the ghoulish music they played as the presented video of Greenspan Frontline showed a happy, smiling and waving Bill and Hillary Clinton with some very upbeat Fleetwood Mac playing in the background as they apologized for Clinton "being forced" into backing Greenspan...

What utter garbage you watch. [:'(]

Then the way they pumped up Brooksley Born, you would think she was Ghandi.

Pure BS, and nothing at all that addressed the points I made. How about the fact that the Fannie / Freddie subprime scandal was hand delivered to us by Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd as well as Chuck Schumer.

Or that Bush began calling for reigning Fannie and Freddie in as far back as 2001, but congressional Dems continually voted those necessary regulations down in committee. And answer me this, if you don't answer anything else - where do you think the evil subprime securities originated?


quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Thomas, Alan Greenspan was one of the architects of the financial sector collapse. You are cherry picking your information again. No one is denying that subprime mortgages were part of the problem, but they were not the cause of the financial meltdown. They were only the trigger. It was the unregulated trading of the derivatives market - derivatives based on subprime mortgages that caused the collapse. Alan Greenspan was warned of this back in the mid 90's by a lady named Brook Burn who wanted derivatives trading regulated. He testified in front of Congress that she was wrong and that free markets did not need to be regulated as greed could not exist in this model. When the markets collapsed, Greenspan testified in front of Congress again (Nov 08) and proclaimed that his worldview of free market economics was wrong and that in hindsight the derivatives market should have been regulated and in doing so would have prevented the collapse. You can find his testimony and a detailed discussion of the collapse here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=proglist&utm_source=proglist

I'm so glad you take his word over mine. I doubt you'll watch this program, but please have your facts straight before you try to engage me in this type of conversation.

edited to add this, a quote from your article:

"He said the selling of the soaring number of subprime mortgages in securities to investors was the trigger for the financial crisis."

This article, in it's entirety, supports my assertion, not yours. I can't believe we are reading the same article.








brainiacsub -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 7:31:37 PM)

Fine Thomas. If you prefer to comment on the music rather than the substance, then we have nothing to talk about.




Sanity -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 7:38:11 PM)


Alright tits.

You're right. If you refuse to admit to yourself  that the music is intended to influence viewers' emotions, to appeal to them on a subliminal level then no, we truly don't have anything to discuss.




brainiacsub -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 9:03:32 PM)

No, I thought you were smart enough to judge the material on its merits. Looks like I was wrong.

You can either choose to educate yourself as to the real causes of the financial collapse, or you can keep listening to the right-wing partisan sound bites, regurgitate them here, and then wonder why no one takes you seriously...up to you.




slvemike4u -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/9/2010 10:03:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


How much of that crap do you expect me to watch?

I can't believe you take Front Line seriously, its hard to believe anybody would. The first clue that they're selling you half truths and lies should have been the spooky music they played in that piece as they showed Greenspans face. What the hell was that? It was like it was straight out of Scooby Doo! That was a hit piece. PBS generally is so far left they're not credible in commenting on anything of a political nature.

They quoted an author who is making money off of a book thats slams Greenspan, which is a blatant conflict of interest. They quote both Joe Nocerna and Timothy O'Brien of the New York Times, which is another notoriously far left organization. They quote Clinton adviser Joseph Stiglitz, who is absolutely on the far left. They play portions of interviews with people they didn't identify.. They cherry pick quotes from Greenspans' own writing and present them out of context,  they attack Greenspan through their underhanded attacks on Ayne Rand, they attack him by attacking Ronald Reagan and Libertarian free market ideals...

Contrasting the ghoulish music they played as the presented video of Greenspan Frontline showed a happy, smiling and waving Bill and Hillary Clinton with some very upbeat Fleetwood Mac playing in the background as they apologized for Clinton "being forced" into backing Greenspan...

What utter garbage you watch. [:'(]

Then the way they pumped up Brooksley Born, you would think she was Ghandi.

Pure BS, and nothing at all that addressed the points I made. How about the fact that the Fannie / Freddie subprime scandal was hand delivered to us by Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd as well as Chuck Schumer.

Or that Bush began calling for reigning Fannie and Freddie in as far back as 2001, but congressional Dems continually voted those necessary regulations down in committee. And answer me this, if you don't answer anything else - where do you think the evil subprime securities originated?


quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Thomas, Alan Greenspan was one of the architects of the financial sector collapse. You are cherry picking your information again. No one is denying that subprime mortgages were part of the problem, but they were not the cause of the financial meltdown. They were only the trigger. It was the unregulated trading of the derivatives market - derivatives based on subprime mortgages that caused the collapse. Alan Greenspan was warned of this back in the mid 90's by a lady named Brook Burn who wanted derivatives trading regulated. He testified in front of Congress that she was wrong and that free markets did not need to be regulated as greed could not exist in this model. When the markets collapsed, Greenspan testified in front of Congress again (Nov 08) and proclaimed that his worldview of free market economics was wrong and that in hindsight the derivatives market should have been regulated and in doing so would have prevented the collapse. You can find his testimony and a detailed discussion of the collapse here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=proglist&utm_source=proglist

I'm so glad you take his word over mine. I doubt you'll watch this program, but please have your facts straight before you try to engage me in this type of conversation.

edited to add this, a quote from your article:

"He said the selling of the soaring number of subprime mortgages in securities to investors was the trigger for the financial crisis."

This article, in it's entirety, supports my assertion, not yours. I can't believe we are reading the same article.





Wow sanity.they actually "cherry picked" quotes from his own writing.The bastards...what they obviously should have done was just present Greenspans writing in all its monotone glory....all of it unedited and as is !
Are you this critical of sources,broadcasts and fat radio hosts when their ideology suits your preconcieved beleifs?
Don't bother answering...we both know I don't beleive a word you type.




Sanity -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 5:09:08 AM)


Okay, this is good for a laugh. You can't address anything that I wrote so you resort to this petty personal attack accusing me of doing what you are doing. Read what you write - you demanded I watch your indoctrination video rather than writing out your own thoughts, and then accuse me of "regurgitating" far right talking points after I took time out of my busy day to watch a significant portion of your little propaganda festival and write out my personal critique of it.

You're making no sense, and you still haven't addressed the major point I raised -  where do you think the evil subprime securities originated?


quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

No, I thought you were smart enough to judge the material on its merits. Looks like I was wrong.

You can either choose to educate yourself as to the real causes of the financial collapse, or you can keep listening to the right-wing partisan sound bites, regurgitate them here, and then wonder why no one takes you seriously...up to you.




Sanity -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 5:18:20 AM)


Hey mike, that cherry pick line was a subtle stab at braniac over the way she's constantly using that line as an attack on me as a way to divert attention from the issues I raise. See the second sentence of her last attack on me that you're quoting below for a good example of this.

The difference between my "cherry picking" and Frontlines though, is I use a complete paragraph but trim what I use down due to TOS rules then provide a link to the source, while Frontline used single sentences out of context in an underhanded way of distorting the original intent.


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


How much of that crap do you expect me to watch?

I can't believe you take Front Line seriously, its hard to believe anybody would. The first clue that they're selling you half truths and lies should have been the spooky music they played in that piece as they showed Greenspans face. What the hell was that? It was like it was straight out of Scooby Doo! That was a hit piece. PBS generally is so far left they're not credible in commenting on anything of a political nature.

They quoted an author who is making money off of a book thats slams Greenspan, which is a blatant conflict of interest. They quote both Joe Nocerna and Timothy O'Brien of the New York Times, which is another notoriously far left organization. They quote Clinton adviser Joseph Stiglitz, who is absolutely on the far left. They play portions of interviews with people they didn't identify.. They cherry pick quotes from Greenspans' own writing and present them out of context,  they attack Greenspan through their underhanded attacks on Ayne Rand, they attack him by attacking Ronald Reagan and Libertarian free market ideals...

Contrasting the ghoulish music they played as the presented video of Greenspan Frontline showed a happy, smiling and waving Bill and Hillary Clinton with some very upbeat Fleetwood Mac playing in the background as they apologized for Clinton "being forced" into backing Greenspan...

What utter garbage you watch. [:'(]

Then the way they pumped up Brooksley Born, you would think she was Ghandi.

Pure BS, and nothing at all that addressed the points I made. How about the fact that the Fannie / Freddie subprime scandal was hand delivered to us by Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd as well as Chuck Schumer.

Or that Bush began calling for reigning Fannie and Freddie in as far back as 2001, but congressional Dems continually voted those necessary regulations down in committee. And answer me this, if you don't answer anything else - where do you think the evil subprime securities originated?


quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Thomas, Alan Greenspan was one of the architects of the financial sector collapse. You are cherry picking your information again. No one is denying that subprime mortgages were part of the problem, but they were not the cause of the financial meltdown. They were only the trigger. It was the unregulated trading of the derivatives market - derivatives based on subprime mortgages that caused the collapse. Alan Greenspan was warned of this back in the mid 90's by a lady named Brook Burn who wanted derivatives trading regulated. He testified in front of Congress that she was wrong and that free markets did not need to be regulated as greed could not exist in this model. When the markets collapsed, Greenspan testified in front of Congress again (Nov 08) and proclaimed that his worldview of free market economics was wrong and that in hindsight the derivatives market should have been regulated and in doing so would have prevented the collapse. You can find his testimony and a detailed discussion of the collapse here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=proglist&utm_source=proglist

I'm so glad you take his word over mine. I doubt you'll watch this program, but please have your facts straight before you try to engage me in this type of conversation.

edited to add this, a quote from your article:

"He said the selling of the soaring number of subprime mortgages in securities to investors was the trigger for the financial crisis."

This article, in it's entirety, supports my assertion, not yours. I can't believe we are reading the same article.





Wow sanity.they actually "cherry picked" quotes from his own writing.The bastards...what they obviously should have done was just present Greenspans writing in all its monotone glory....all of it unedited and as is !
Are you this critical of sources,broadcasts and fat radio hosts when their ideology suits your preconcieved beleifs?
Don't bother answering...we both know I don't beleive a word you type.




brainiacsub -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:02:24 AM)

Thomas, I am no longer going to waste my time on these forums chasing your tail of circular logic.

First you said that "you will take Greenspans word over mine any day" that the subprime mortgages were the cause of the collapse of the financial sector and world's economy. So I refuted that assertion using Greenspans own words.

You ignored my response and now you are saying that the issue is in fact the origin of the loans themselves. I have already shown you that the loans were not the cause of the collapse, so when did their origins become the issue and why? I'm tired of chasing a moving target with you. This happens in every thread. I'm embarrassed that I've allowed myself to participate in your tit-for-tat in the past. No more.




mnottertail -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:11:18 AM)

well, I can tat ya iffn I get some tit.




slvemike4u -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:25:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Thomas, I am no longer going to waste my time on these forums chasing your tail of circular logic.

First you said that "you will take Greenspans word over mine any day" that the subprime mortgages were the cause of the collapse of the financial sector and world's economy. So I refuted that assertion using Greenspans own words.

You ignored my response and now you are saying that the issue is in fact the origin of the loans themselves. I have already shown you that the loans were not the cause of the collapse, so when did their origins become the issue and why? I'm tired of chasing a moving target with you. This happens in every thread. I'm embarrassed that I've allowed myself to participate in your tit-for-tat in the past. No more.
Not for nothing,and I so hate to say "told ya so"...but I did in fact ,tell ya so!
He's a hoot and a hollar ! [:D]




cuckyman -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:31:46 AM)

be sure and bet everything you own on a democrat victory... laughing my ass off.... these idiots don't have a clue.... its going to be like a mountain coming down on your head.... can you say LANDSLIDE.... the dems are DONE>... for decades to come.... turn out the lights the pary is over.... Republicans will even take California back!....deal with it....




brainiacsub -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:32:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, I can tat ya iffn I get some tit.

I'm up here, Ron...look me in the eyes when we're talking...don't you care that I'm more than just a pair of titties...big, voluptuous, firm, round titties...




Jeffff -> RE: Why is the Democratic Party worried? (4/10/2010 9:35:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

tit-for-tat




Chortles




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