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Jeffff -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 2:55:41 PM)
Get off the GRID!

pahunkboy -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 2:56:41 PM)
quote: Obama is up for trial May 14. He is expected to resign the 19th or later in 2010. Short of that Impeachment will occur. My source is ATLAH. http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Sorry PA,I like you and all of that....but we just can't be having this bullshit.....we need those FEMA camps and we need them yesterday....and your freakin name is at the top of the list for the NorthEast sector...sorry old boy,but like a rabid dog it is time to put you down. Well then so be it. I am ready to meet my maker.

brainiacsub -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:00:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] So let me get this straight. You believe that just because one group is black and the other is white that one is a threat and the other is harmless? And you have the nerve to talk about bigotry? WAKE THE FUCK UP. No, I am saying that people have the right to organize and speak freely under the Constitution regardless of their race. The only groups the FBI or the Southern Poverty Law Center need be concerned about are those who pose a threat. They watch them, monitor their activities, and act accordingly. If any of these black groups posed an imminent threat, we would have heard about it on Fox News. Since they pose no threat to you - except that they are black - I wonder why you concern yourself with it?

slvemike4u -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:02:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy quote: Obama is up for trial May 14. He is expected to resign the 19th or later in 2010. Short of that Impeachment will occur. My source is ATLAH. http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Sorry PA,I like you and all of that....but we just can't be having this bullshit.....we need those FEMA camps and we need them yesterday....and your freakin name is at the top of the list for the NorthEast sector...sorry old boy,but like a rabid dog it is time to put you down. Well then so be it. I am ready to meet my maker. Yeah,but is your "maker" ready to meet you?...and more importantly...is he ready to accept responsibity for having made you?

popeye1250 -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:04:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: Fubs That's what happens when you elect a socialist government. Unfortunately we've let one ruin England for the last 13 years and it looks like idiots are still going to vote for the vermin socialists. This is despite them having an open door immigration policy which they admitted, yes they actually admitted it, was to rub the Right's noses into it and make them look like a racist party! They are paying single Mums, not married Mums only single Mums, to have more kids and be housed and fed by the taxpayer. Education has been dumbed down beyond belief to the extent where employers have come out and said that the school leavers of today are pretty much unemployable. Taxpayers money is being spent on translators and translation services for foreigners who speak no English so that they can claim a council house paid for by the British taxpayer. In a nutshell, if you don't want to end up with a country ruined almost beyond repair like the UK is right now, then seriously get rid of Obama at the first possible opportunity. As the best PM the UK ever saw, Maggie Thatcher said "the problem with socialism is that eventually they run out of other people's money". You do realise that line about Thatcher means everything else you said has zero validity and goes straight into the garbage dump? Mike, what was it about the above that you don't understand?

slvemike4u -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:04:37 PM)
It's called a counterweight Braniac...if we can counter each and every right-wing militia extremist group with one that can be labeled left wing.....than there really isn't a problem....is there? Or at the very least we have deflected enough so we don't have to discuss the problem!

rulemylife -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:04:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Obama is up for trial May 14. He is expected to resign the 19th or later in 2010. Short of that Impeachment will occur. My source is ATLAH. http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide Is there any nutcase on the internet that you will question?

brainiacsub -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:10:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity No, you're being deliberately obtuse, or maybe you really are that thick (in which case you chose the wrong username, for sure). Again, I only "routinely" return such insults to those of you who hurl them first, in order to make a point. In other words, why are you of the mindset that you feel you can call people teabaggers or otherwise slime them like some kind of gutter trash and then expect them to treat you like a sweet innocent little princess in return? Thats just bizarre. quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub There was nothing disingenuous about my post. I was only making reference to a fact that you routinely refer to people who disagree with you about the Tea Party as "Libtards" and that I am included in that group. Whether it was one time, a hundred times, and what "understanding" we may have come to afterwards is irrelevant to this thread. Thomas, I didn't want to bring it up but you won't let it die. I never called you a "teabagger" in that thread, and you let loose on me with a plethora of name calling and choice obscenities that would make Jesus weep. Many people came to my defense in that thread and NOT ONE supported you. I will repost that exchange if you don't let this go.

Thadius -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:15:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] So let me get this straight. You believe that just because one group is black and the other is white that one is a threat and the other is harmless? And you have the nerve to talk about bigotry? WAKE THE FUCK UP. No, I am saying that people have the right to organize and speak freely under the Constitution regardless of their race. The only groups the FBI or the Southern Poverty Law Center need be concerned about are those who pose a threat. They watch them, monitor their activities, and act accordingly. If any of these black groups posed an imminent threat, we would have heard about it on Fox News. Since they pose no threat to you - except that they are black - I wonder why you concern yourself with it? So now you are suggesting (in jest I can only assume) that because Fox hasn't reported on a particular group they are no threat or just a hobby group perhaps? So the ADL and SPLC are not to be considered as credible sources? Interesting. So then where is the credible sourcing in the original article as they relied on the report from the SPLC? Your hypocracy knows no bounds. Your first statement in this post I do agree with. I believe that any whackjob group regardless of race that threatens the use of armed conflict to achieve a stated goal, would qualify as a threat. It is you that seems to be hung up on race, and or denial that such hatred or threats could come from a particular race. I think ALL hate groups should be carefully watched. Seems like a simple concept, no?

rulemylife -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:16:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity No, you're being deliberately obtuse, or maybe you really are that thick (in which case you chose the wrong username, for sure). Again, I only "routinely" return such insults to those of you who hurl them first, in order to make a point. In other words, why are you of the mindset that you feel you can call people teabaggers or otherwise slime them like some kind of gutter trash and then expect them to treat you like a sweet innocent little princess in return? Why do you routinely ignore the fact that teabaggers started out calling themselves teabaggers until they were embarassed by their ignorance and tried to blame it on those who oppose them?

Elisabella -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:19:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Why do you routinely ignore the fact that teabaggers started out calling themselves teabaggers until they were embarassed by their ignorance and tried to blame it on those who oppose them? I've heard black people call themselves the n word quite a few times in a positive context, that doesn't justify me using the word as an insult.

Thadius -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity No, you're being deliberately obtuse, or maybe you really are that thick (in which case you chose the wrong username, for sure). Again, I only "routinely" return such insults to those of you who hurl them first, in order to make a point. In other words, why are you of the mindset that you feel you can call people teabaggers or otherwise slime them like some kind of gutter trash and then expect them to treat you like a sweet innocent little princess in return? Why do you routinely ignore the fact that teabaggers started out calling themselves teabaggers until they were embarassed by their ignorance and tried to blame it on those who oppose them? Actually that occured in much the same way that many comics have gotten women to sign petitions against women's sufferage. While a few may have been sucked into the nickname, the majority of us have a little more common sense. I am still up for calling us the Dirty Sanchezes.[;)]

brainiacsub -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:24:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] So now you are suggesting (in jest I can only assume) that because Fox hasn't reported on a particular group they are no threat or just a hobby group perhaps? So the ADL and SPLC are not to be considered as credible sources? Interesting. So then where is the credible sourcing in the original article as they relied on the report from the SPLC? Your hypocracy knows no bounds. Your first statement in this post I do agree with. I believe that any whackjob group regardless of race that threatens the use of armed conflict to achieve a stated goal, would qualify as a threat. It is you that seems to be hung up on race, and or denial that such hatred or threats could come from a particular race. I think ALL hate groups should be carefully watched. Seems like a simple concept, no? No, I am saying that IF they were a bonafide threat, Fox would air breaking news. And I am saying the SPLC is very credible, but as I have already said, their job is to monitor and report, which they do. If the groups they are monitoring are no real threat, then we never hear about them. I don't know why you insist on calling me a hypocrit when my position has been very consistant on this matter. <edited to correct my original response>

rulemylife -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:38:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella I've heard black people call themselves the n word quite a few times in a positive context, that doesn't justify me using the word as an insult. I'm not using it as an insult. I am just honoring the name they chose for themselves originally. If someone wants to be a teabagger who am I to deny them the moniker?

Thadius -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:40:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] So now you are suggesting (in jest I can only assume) that because Fox hasn't reported on a particular group they are no threat or just a hobby group perhaps? So the ADL and SPLC are not to be considered as credible sources? Interesting. So then where is the credible sourcing in the original article as they relied on the report from the SPLC? Your hypocracy knows no bounds. Your first statement in this post I do agree with. I believe that any whackjob group regardless of race that threatens the use of armed conflict to achieve a stated goal, would qualify as a threat. It is you that seems to be hung up on race, and or denial that such hatred or threats could come from a particular race. I think ALL hate groups should be carefully watched. Seems like a simple concept, no? No, I am saying that IF they were a bonafide threat, Fox would air breaking news. And you are the one who posted the link to the SPLC website as "evidence" that black supremacist groups exist, and now you say they aren't credible? You can't have it both ways. My reading comprehension must be really slipping. I could have sworn it was you that asked "What black groups, pray tell, do you think the Justice Dept should be targeting? " and then I gave an example, to which you claimed "Don't be a twit. If this or any other black militia group had actually come to fruition, don't you think we would have heard about it on Fox News? " I then gave you a chance to admit it was sarcasm, and just in case you were serious I linked another credible source, one that was cited in the original story. To which you replied with some more condescending bigoted rhetoric, suggesting that I had nothing to worry about because I was white, and that the only groups that posed a threat to all of us were the white supremacist iditots. And so on and so on... Now here you come again suggesting that the measure of a bonafide threat is whether Fox News is airing a story about them. I am also lost as to where you get that I suggested that the SPLC is not credible. If you are going to put words in my mouth at least use my words. Trying to play the victim and acting as if I am making shit up may work with some of the folks around here that let their penises do their thinking, but brainiac (seems more and more like an oxymoron) I am not one of those folks. Your own bigotry has said enough.

Elisabella -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:41:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I'm not using it as an insult. I am just honoring the name they chose for themselves originally. Despite the fact that the people you're talking about have made it expressly clear they find the term insulting? Please.

brainiacsub -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:42:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] So now you are suggesting (in jest I can only assume) that because Fox hasn't reported on a particular group they are no threat or just a hobby group perhaps? So the ADL and SPLC are not to be considered as credible sources? Interesting. So then where is the credible sourcing in the original article as they relied on the report from the SPLC? Your hypocracy knows no bounds. Your first statement in this post I do agree with. I believe that any whackjob group regardless of race that threatens the use of armed conflict to achieve a stated goal, would qualify as a threat. It is you that seems to be hung up on race, and or denial that such hatred or threats could come from a particular race. I think ALL hate groups should be carefully watched. Seems like a simple concept, no? I am responding to this post again to better clarify my position after rereading yours... Yes, I believe that all hate groups should be watched and that is the job of the FBI and SPLC. The only ones that seem to make the news are the ones who pose to be imminent threats, and it just so happens that all of those groups are white. Me pointing out this fact does not make me a racist or a hypocrit. You can't seem to distinguish between people who organize because they hate - which is legal - and those whose hate turns to violence - which isn't.

brainiacsub -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:45:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius [...] My reading comprehension must be really slipping. [...] I edited my response to you while you were typing this. The edited version should be more clear.

rulemylife -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:47:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I'm not using it as an insult. I am just honoring the name they chose for themselves originally. Despite the fact that the people you're talking about have made it expressly clear they find the term insulting? Please. After someone tapped them on the shoulder and told them what teabagging was.

Elisabella -> RE: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias (4/7/2010 3:50:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife After someone tapped them on the shoulder and told them what teabagging was. And this makes you in the right for continuing to use the term...how again? Look if I met someone who got her first job and proudly said she was a working girl, and I told her that's a word for a prostitute, and she got all embarrassed and didn't want to use the term again...I'd be a complete fucking cunt to keep calling her that after she told me to stop. Doesn't matter if the mistake was hers, the intent to continue is mine. I really don't care if you want to be a jerk to people but at least stand up and own the shit you're doing instead of equivocating.

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