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After someone tapped them on the shoulder and told them what teabagging was.

And this makes you in the right for continuing to use the term...how again?

Look if I met someone who got her first job and proudly said she was a working girl, and I told her that's a word for a prostitute, and she got all embarrassed and didn't want to use the term again...I'd be a complete fucking cunt to keep calling her that after she told me to stop. Doesn't matter if the mistake was hers, the intent to continue is mine.

I really don't care if you want to be a jerk to people but at least stand up and own the shit you're doing instead of equivocating.

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Oh good grief.

The term is one of the best things that happened to them--keeps them in the news.

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After someone tapped them on the shoulder and told them what teabagging was.

And this makes you in the right for continuing to use the term...how again?

Look if I met someone who got her first job and proudly said she was a working girl, and I told her that's a word for a prostitute, and she got all embarrassed and didn't want to use the term again...I'd be a complete fucking cunt to keep calling her that after she told me to stop. Doesn't matter if the mistake was hers, the intent to continue is mine.

I really don't care if you want to be a jerk to people but at least stand up and own the shit you're doing instead of equivocating.

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So now you are suggesting (in jest I can only assume) that because Fox hasn't reported on a particular group they are no threat or just a hobby group perhaps? So the ADL and SPLC are not to be considered as credible sources? Interesting. So then where is the credible sourcing in the original article as they relied on the report from the SPLC? Your hypocracy knows no bounds.

Your first statement in this post I do agree with.

I believe that any whackjob group regardless of race that threatens the use of armed conflict to achieve a stated goal, would qualify as a threat. It is you that seems to be hung up on race, and or denial that such hatred or threats could come from a particular race. I think ALL hate groups should be carefully watched. Seems like a simple concept, no?

I am responding to this post again to better clarify my position after rereading yours...

Yes, I believe that all hate groups should be watched and that is the job of the FBI and SPLC. The only ones that seem to make the news are the ones who pose to be imminent threats, and it just so happens that all of those groups are white. Me pointing out this fact does not make me a racist or a hypocrit. You can't seem to distinguish between people who organize because they hate - which is legal - and those whose hate turns to violence - which isn't.

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I'm not equivocating, nor have I ever where teabaggers are concerned.

While there are exceptions, most are barely literate idiots who have crawled out of the woodwork to support things they cannot articulate why they are supporting.

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Elisabella, I watch the news every damn day and the cable news networks are STILL using the term "teabagger." I think the only people protesting the term are the ones who might be just a tad bit homophobic.

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Elisabella, I watch the news every damn day and the cable news networks are STILL using the term "teabagger." I think the only people protesting the term are the ones who might be just a tad bit homophobic.

I don't watch TV news so I don't know the context, if there's any youtube clips you could show me I'd be grateful. I'm just going by the fact that everyone on this board, who has been called a teabagger, has found the term pejorative, and so in this context at least it should be considered such.

I haven't seen anyone on these boards identify themselves as a teabagger anytime recently. Again if I'm wrong, please show me where. Mostly though I'm just annoyed at hearing "even though you've made it very clear you find this word to be insulting I am going to say you are wrong based on the fact that a long time ago someone else who is associated with the same movement you are once used it positively and therefore your feelings are completely invalid and the word is completely neutral."

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I'm not equivocating, nor have I ever where teabaggers are concerned.

While there are exceptions, most are barely literate idiots who have crawled out of the woodwork to support things they cannot articulate why they are supporting.

You were totally equivocating. Next you're going to say that "barely literate idiots" isn't an insult because one tea party member once called another tea party member that.

Seriously, the group who gets to decide if a word is positive or negative is the group being discussed. The implications of assuming otherwise could get ugly.

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I have identified myself as somebody that has and will attend Tea Party events, and have used the term in a sarcastic way to describe myself.

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Okay, since you seem to be confused let me try to clear this up and make it unequivocal.

The vast majority of teabaggers are clueless idiots who have no idea of anything political and are being manipulated by people like Dick Armey who front for corporate health interests.

Is that unequivocal enough for you?

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Having experienced the violence and rhetoric of both white and black hate groups first hand, I think I have a pretty good handle on how I distinguish between those spewing rhetoric and those that intend to be violent.

Then again the NBPP is never in the news, so they shouldn't be worried about. Oh wait they have been in the news... They even got upset when the sheriff told them that he would arrest members if they carried firearms to the protest they were planning. They called the warning a threat. IF they were going to protest peacefully, why would they need to be armed, or why would they consider the sheriff's warning a threat? There are plenty more examples, this one is just from the past week... They even raised enough attention that the fucking bedding wearing goat fuckers had time to plan a counter rally.

I suppose you didn't read any of what the ADL wrote in their report about the NBPP, or you wouldn't be claiming that they are simply a group organized because of hate, they are a group organized to act militantly based on that hate.

The ball is in your court.

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Thomas, I didn't want to bring it up but you won't let it die. I never called you a "teabagger" in that thread, and you let loose on me with a plethora of name calling and choice obscenities that would make Jesus weep. Many people came to my defense in that thread and NOT ONE supported you. I will repost that exchange if you don't let this go.

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That's what happens when you elect a socialist government. Unfortunately we've let one ruin England for the last 13 years and it looks like idiots are still going to vote for the vermin socialists. This is despite them having an open door immigration policy which they admitted, yes they actually admitted it, was to rub the Right's noses into it and make them look like a racist party! They are paying single Mums, not married Mums only single Mums, to have more kids and be housed and fed by the taxpayer. Education has been dumbed down beyond belief to the extent where employers have come out and said that the school leavers of today are pretty much unemployable. Taxpayers money is being spent on translators and translation services for foreigners who speak no English so that they can claim a council house paid for by the British taxpayer.

In a nutshell, if you don't want to end up with a country ruined almost beyond repair like the UK is right now, then seriously get rid of Obama at the first possible opportunity. As the best PM the UK ever saw, Maggie Thatcher said "the problem with socialism is that eventually they run out of other people's money".

You do realise that line about Thatcher means everything else you said has zero validity and goes straight into the garbage dump?

Mike, what was it about the above that you don't understand?

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I have identified myself as somebody that has and will attend Tea Party events, and have used the term in a sarcastic way to describe myself.

Do you feel there is a difference between sarcastic self reference and using it to describe other people who have said they don't want to be called that?

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Other than the obvious partisan cherry pickers, I don't think anyone is saying that.

America has plenty of racists, and from a variety of demographics.

It sure did sound a whole lot like she was suggesting just the opposite.

I do agree with the rest of your statement.

Tim, the reason this bugs the shit out of me so much is because of where and what I came from. I was born in arguably the most racist neighborhood in the city of Chicago, Bridgeport. I was surrounded by the Dem machine that condoned it, to keep the neighborhood clean and nice. I moved a few blocks south and had crosses burned in my yard because I wasn't the same religion, I remember seeing lynchings under the viaducts every summer as a kid. I remember these same Dems protesting the bussing in of minorities, and was even subjected to being held out of school because of the violence. I remember my dad having crosses burned in his yard when he married my step-mom, my sisters being called every slur you can think of, bricks being thrown through windows, cars being keyed with racial slurs. I also remembering having to deal with the other side of the issue, as the Panthers, Nation of Islam, Rev. Jackson all marched and held rallies through the neighborhoods. I was called racist by one side, and race traitor by the other. You can say that I learned in the school of hard knocks that it was more important to judge folks by who they are as people and not what race, religion, or political party they belonged to.

So yeah, I am a bit sensitive to the generalizations and claims made by some posters around here.

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A decade too young?

Domken, his profile states age 37.     The world is a big place...

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A decade too young?

Domken, his profile states age 37.     The world is a big place...

I dated a guy who is...a bit older than 37 now...who remembers the race riots at the end of high school. Thadius is definitely not too young...though I am [8D]