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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 5:52:54 PM   
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OK, did I flip through the master's handbook too quickly again? Because honestly, I was just going to command carol to do some loving gazing but it wasn't at the bottom of my foot.


fucking rookies!!!! .... let her look higher and then before you know it... she will think she is more than dirt and "choke" she will think she can look into your eyes.... !!!!! and be an an an equal!!!! I think I am going to pass out!!!

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 5:57:58 PM   
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Errrrrr what were we talking about....oooooo a foot! Damn you KoM it works! 

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:00:21 PM   
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fucking rookies!!!! .... let her look higher and then before you know it... she will think she is more than dirt and "choke" she will think she can look into your eyes.... !!!!! and be an an an equal!!!! I think I am going to pass out!!!
*peers closely at your profile photo and where your girls are peering*

So.. uh... I'm gonna assume then you are some sort of genetic mutant and your feet are attached to your head? Damn! Every time I get to thinking I understand things I just get all confused again.

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:08:49 PM   
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*snickers* Jeff does have a point, KoM. Your girls are looking up at you adoringly. *Sits back with some popcorn to watch the D-types discuss this oh-so-important issue*

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:13:33 PM   
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Well you both realize that if the girl never looks up it is a tad on the mechanically impossible side for them to give a blowjob.  Just sayin........

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:18:05 PM   
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Well you both realize that if the girl never looks up it is a tad on the mechanically impossible side for them to give a blowjob.  Just sayin........
lovingpet
who would know nothing about such matters being innocent and pure and all


Of course we can, we just have to be looking directly down on his cock. It's a bit awkward and tends to cause gagging but it's doable.....not that I've actually done it of course, I just heard that.


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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:19:22 PM   
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But wouldn't that be one of those dominant oral positions? 

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:19:47 PM   
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Errrrrr what were we talking about....oooooo a foot! Damn you KoM it works! 


Hey zeph :
1) missed you (and lp) while I was gone, and
2) did you know why Guys can't measure? because they keep telling Uus that this:
<----------------------->
is a foot long. Just sayin'..

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:24:17 PM   
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But wouldn't that be one of those dominant oral positions? 
LOLOLOLOLOL - oh god, yet another trap I must beware of as a dom.

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:30:00 PM   
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Yeah, and that's why we all keep telling you to read the manual.  Dominants.  They think they can do whatever they want.  There's rules to this stuff you know!!!!!! 

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:32:38 PM   
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fucking rookies!!!! .... let her look higher and then before you know it... she will think she is more than dirt and "choke" she will think she can look into your eyes.... !!!!! and be an an an equal!!!! I think I am going to pass out!!!
*peers closely at your profile photo and where your girls are peering*

So.. uh... I'm gonna assume then you are some sort of genetic mutant and your feet are attached to your head? Damn! Every time I get to thinking I understand things I just get all confused again.



GEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ... don't do as I do... do as I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:32:51 PM   
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Not necessarily, if the s-type is kneeling it doesn't count....or so I heard. Let me know what you find in the handbook, Master Tim won't let me have one.

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:33:41 PM   
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I only get one cuz I's switchie.

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:36:07 PM   
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Errrrrr what were we talking about....oooooo a foot! Damn you KoM it works! 


Hey zeph :
1) missed you (and lp) while I was gone, and
2) did you know why Guys can't measure? because they keep telling Uus that this:
<----------------------->
is a foot long. Just sayin'..


*pounces joyously* GIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!! omg I missed you! WB!

That would explain the guy who told me he had 6 inces when centimetres would have been more accurate.

eta an h


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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:39:46 PM   
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I only get one cuz I's switchie.


Switchie my ass, greedy is what you are


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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:43:07 PM   
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True, but alas if you can't bait the pre.... errrrrrrr subbie properly, then there's less of what I might be greedy for.  And I must say, it is a terrible burden having and reading the manual.  I have to pretend to not know things aaaaallllllllllll the time.  That way it's just wondrous and magical when he does things. 

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:46:38 PM   
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True, but alas if you can't bait the pre.... errrrrrrr subbie properly, then there's less of what I might be greedy for.  And I must say, it is a terrible burden having and reading the manual.  I have to pretend to not know things aaaaallllllllllll the time.  That way it's just wondrous and magical when he does things. 

I don't know about you but I took one look at that fucking thing... all 1273 pages of up (not counting codices and appendices) and said, "Fuck this shit. I'll just avoid claiming to be a dom and then I don't have to follow all these fucking rules."

I can get away with it because Carol's such a doormat that she doesn't know any better and submits helplessly to whatever crap I throw her way. I even caught her looking directly in my eye just yesterday and she STILL obeyed me. What a doormat!

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 6:51:20 PM   
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Are you sure she wasn't topping from the bottom? 

And truth be told, I only read the manual so I know what he does AGAINST the rules cuz it makes me all hot when he goes all renegade with it. 

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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/11/2010 9:56:45 PM   
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This topic has been inspired through a conversation with a friend.
That conversation was about people in this lifestyle threatening to leave their relationship if the sub didn’t come up to shape.
We hear a lot of ‘keep getting that wrong and your out’, ‘Not submissive enough and your out’ and so on.
This topic isn’t really aimed at people who meet once a week for a bit of D/s BDSM interaction.
Its based on a full on relationship, a couple that are going at this long term or with the intention of long term.
I know that we recently had a topic titled 'One Strike and your out' or something like that! and that veered very much towards what 'one strike' actually meant. This is more about trusting and building a relationship under the shadow of being thrown away if you don't live up to D/s expectations.

Can a sub wholly trust her man if she sees him keeping one foot out of the door?
People fall in love, what then? is the importance of her submission more important than your relationship? You may say it is but if you are really in love then I personally find that very hard to believe. Is it her submission alone that made you fall in love or is there a thousand other things about her that if submission failed you would still have 999 things to celebrate? If her submission hit problems or just needed a break, would you have one foot out of the door?

My ten cents worth: If a relationship is based purely on a D/s dynamic and not allowed to grow beyond that, if that D/s dynamic dwindles then there is little left but then there was never much there in the first place.

Any relationship starts with roots. Those initial roots may be based around D/s and from those roots grows a firm stem. The stem then grows branches in many directions and those branches eventually blossom.
When I see ‘relationships’ with a whole load of trust but ‘one foot out of the door’ I just see a stem that has no branches.



Can a sub wholly trust her man if she sees him keeping one foot out of the door?   No
People fall in love, what then? is the importance of her submission more important than your relationship? Each person is different. I prefer a submissive who submits because I have inspired her to do so, not because she loves me. Finding the right submissive does not guarantee I will find love, If I do, fine, but it is not a requirement. If I wanted a lover or a wife, I would go to the appropriate site to do so

Is it her submission alone that made you fall in love or is there a thousand other things about her that if submission failed you would still have 999 things to celebrate? Again, submission does not guarantee love. If I do fall in love it is because of the person she is, her submission is not a relevant factor

My ten cents worth: If a relationship is based purely on a D/s dynamic and not allowed to grow beyond that, if that D/s dynamic dwindles then there is little left but then there was never much there in the first place. That depends on the people involved and the depth of their dynamic. Not everyone believes that D/s is just kinky sex and playtime activities. There are some who are actually much deeper than that, who are capable of very deep emotions

When I see ‘relationships’ with a whole load of trust but ‘one foot out of the door’ I just see a stem that has no branches. I would have a hard time believing someone had trust and also had one foot out the door



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RE: One foot out of the door. - 4/14/2010 8:29:03 AM   
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KOM, I don't see any reason to assume that people who don't want the same things you do are automatically seeking mediocrity. Being self-aware and trying to find a good fit for who we are, our goals, and so forth is a *good* thing.

lol.... my god that comment went miles past you didn't it!

Yeah, I guess it did. I thought Kyra was talking about people who don't want you to be their Master or wouldn't want someone who had your approach to One-Strike, because they would feel insecure and unhappy. You responded saying that "some people" are seeking mediocrity/not willing to abide by high standards. Who *are* you referring to, since you don't mean the ones who don't want to date anyone with a One-strike policy or who are actively planning to dump them if they decide they want a kid, and whose standards do you feel they should abide by?

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