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duskysub -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/12/2005 1:40:37 PM)

The first time, four months ago when I found a Master who was truly capable of Mastering me. Would love to live there now.

DuskySub




teachmetobeg -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/12/2005 9:25:59 PM)

i am only twenty, but have reached it with Sir. It is one of the most amazing things i have ever felt!




cynthiamarie -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 8:24:27 AM)

I've read this thread from beginning to end, but I still don't get what sub-space is. Does it only come with pain or what?

I'm trying to understand what happened to me on chat last night. I'm very new at this and something happened to me that was intense /mindblowing/awesome, and I was shaking so hard I couldn't type and my very soul felt...branded. I can't stop this mindless adoration from flooding my brain either. We've only been on chat 3 times and haven't mentioned anything sexual, but when he put something around my neck, attached a leash and gave it a little tug, something in me SHATTERED to bits.

This can't be normal...I feel like there's some child in my head who's in ecstasy, swirling around and around and around until I'm dizzy and breathless and I don't feel like ME at all.

Is this like a first time high or something? Will I crash and burn? Who else has gone through this, whatever it is, and can talk me down? I am so confused and excited that I could SCREAM.





EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 8:46:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

I've read this thread from beginning to end, but I still don't get what sub-space is. Does it only come with pain or what?

Subspace is an altered state of consciousness. That's about the only definitive thing you can say bout it. It's like an orgasm- there are different types, it's different for everyone, you get there in different ways.

For me, pain actually keeps me OUT of subspace. Masochists and people who go into subspace from pain are riding on the endorphins. I tend to fly on adrenalines and seratonin.
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Is this like a first time high or something? Will I crash and burn? Who else has gone through this, whatever it is, and can talk me down? I am so confused and excited that I could SCREAM

You will crash, but how you deal with it depends on you and it's not the end of the world. Learning to come down is as important as learning to go up. You're in what's known as the "frenzy" period, very new, very happy, very thrilled to discover yourself. Just don't lose sight of common sense.




cynthiamarie -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 9:34:26 AM)

Thank you!

This sub-space thing sounds like Dissociation. Pain and panic attacks do that to me all the time and I don't want to go there...have that "out of body" experience ever again.

I'm not into pain either...I might be able to tolerate a little spank, but I really don't think I can get into the masochistic stuff. I'm relieved that it's not a requirement, or I'd just Dissociate and feel numb from head to toe while trying to please somebody.

He's not pushing me for anything, which makes him very unique and special, and actually earning my trust and respect...which is a totally alien concept for me. I will study the safety stuff here soon, but I have read them at two other sites and usually they're too vague for me to understand what I'm NOT supposed to do. I know not to give out my full name, address, or phone number...credit cards or bank account number, LOL, but that's it.

I'm afraid of meeting anybody in person yet because I haven't learned how to wait or say "no" very well, and I don't want to be some spineless mental/emotional...whore. I'd feel bad about myself and get depressed, so I can't risk that until I'm more able to cope. See? I've learned a lot from you all these past few days...




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 9:57:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

Thank you!

This sub-space thing sounds like Dissociation. Pain and panic attacks do that to me all the time and I don't want to go there...have that "out of body" experience ever again.

It CAN be like that, but it isn't necessarily so. Not all subspace is good, most people have one or two bad experiences in their past, but we all live through it. OOBEs (out of body experiences) are not universal and you can learn to control them and still have fun.

Or not. Subspace isn't the be all and end all of scenes and I've seen more than one sub turn ugly because she wasn't getting HER fix.


I'm not into pain either...I might be able to tolerate a little spank, but I really don't think I can get into the masochistic stuff. I'm relieved that it's not a requirement, or I'd just Dissociate and feel numb from head to toe while trying to please somebody.

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I know not to give out my full name, address, or phone number...credit cards or bank account number, LOL, but that's it.

Look, how did you date people before you found out about bdsm? What things were you careful about there? It's the same here. You didn't lose all your common sense just because you realized you're a sub. You are an indepedent adult. If you aren't don't even start dating. If you are, then just do what you've been doing. ITS THE SAME.
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I'm afraid of meeting anybody in person yet because I haven't learned how to wait or say "no" very well, and I don't want to be some spineless mental/emotional...whore.

Well if you can't say no then you ARE being spineless and I think it's very wise of you to wait and build yourself up to it. Practice saying no, use it in everyday interactions. One of my tips was stopping myself and saying "If I were the most confident and self assured person my age right now, what would I do?" and then I'd imagine it and then do just that. You're the only one holding yourself back on this one.

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I'd feel bad about myself and get depressed, so I can't risk that until I'm more able to cope. See? I've learned a lot from you all these past few days...

There's really nothing to cope with. We're normal people, doing normal things in normal situations. It's a big deal because you're new, but trust me, just act like any other independent adult with common sense and good judgement and you'll be fine. There's no secret codes.




lacyann -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 10:02:25 AM)

at about 46, and it didn't have anything to do with BDSM, and I didn't even know much about BDSM at the time or that i was submissive,
it was after an over night swing party where i got 'f'd by about 8 big black cocks.
including dp.

last time was last night as Master and Mistress, took me there with so many actions this girl was dizzy, then They took me there again.
thanks.

lacyann




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Subs how old where you when You first reached sub~space? (3/14/2005 10:04:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lacyann
it was after an over night swing party where i got 'f'd by about 8 big black cocks.
including dp.
thanks.

Nice to meet another slut.

It's a good point to notice that people go into altered states of consciousness all the time. Daydreaming is one. People can take drugs and go into it. It's essentially a euphoria/mild state of shock produced by your bodies own chemicals. Athletes get high in a similar way as well. People through history have used meditation, chanting, pain, and many other methods to reach a euphoric state which is generally what we call "subspace."




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