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Will you agree to be chipped?

Yes

5% (1)

Unsure

10% (2)

85% (17)

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(last vote on : 4/11/2010 8:07:57 AM)
(Poll ended: 12/31/2010 12:00:00 AM)

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:36:12 AM

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Do you carry a cell phone?

If so, you are tracked wherever you go.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:56:04 AM

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Yeah, lots of folks forget that. Even if you disable the GPS reporting to your friends, the Enhanced 911 GPS reporting is on (it really pissed off the phone manufacturers to do this...more chips, another antenna, just what we always wanted!)

If you completely disabled the GPS, you could still be tracked by triangulation from different sectors or cells.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 6:11:43 PM

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 7:55:21 PM

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Why would we want to be chipped? My father has dementia and the fear is always that he may suddenly feel a desire to go out and not know how to get home. But he picks at his skin and frequently causes bleeding by removing scabs. So I wouldn't agree to chip him simply because he would pick at it.

Now if I had a medical condition and chose to be chipped so that my records were available, it still doesn't mean anyone could access those records without my approval. You have to be within 18" of the reader for the chip to be read.

Cell phones can be tracked because they are powered and charged daily. There's no way to recharge an implanted chip so you can't be tracked without your knowlege.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 8:51:46 PM

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There's no way to recharge an implanted chip

Sure there is. The body has it's own electricity--people are even talking about biocomputers.

Whether it's practical is another matter, of course....

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:29:47 PM

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Practicality would be a big problem...biocomputers are free-standing external systems at the moment.

And electrical potentials in the body are quite small, generally less than 100 millivolts.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:33:17 PM

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And I don't even have a cell phone!

People would call...

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:34:16 PM

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:36:57 PM

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/10/2010 9:40:08 PM

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:08:54 AM

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Especially since they have technology now that can read your finger print and identify you.

I drop making a comment regarding chip and potential cancer as that was already mentioned from many others, however technology which can read finger prints does not help by people either who quite frankly have no finger prints

http://www.physorg.com/news77371366.html

Apart from those affected folks I remember a case in the last few years where a person struggled to get into the USA or Canada as he had no fingerprints, in his case it was as drugs he had to take to fight his cancer destroyed his fingerprints...so whilst it is common for most of us there are quite a few for whom that wouldn't be an option.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:16:51 AM

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Ok- the way I understand it... a chip can emit electrical impulses with in your body. Ones nerves ARE an electrical current. So a chip is additional electrical work into YOUR body. For this reason the effects could be chilling.

Barometer effects us- electrical fields can effect us. Even certain sound pitches can trigger pain.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:28:36 AM

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Ok- the way I understand it... a chip can emit electrical impulses with in your body. Ones nerves ARE an electrical current. So a chip is additional electrical work into YOUR body. For this reason the effects could be chilling.

Don't get hysterical; a chip is a tiny little thing with a tiny little voltage. The worst a subdermal chip could do is cause a *minor* muscle spasm- a little twitch. It's not going to be deeply imbedded in your muscle tissue, it's not going to be wired into your nervous system. Muscle tissue has a pretty high resistance, so any impulse would be dissipated along the surface of the muscle PDQ.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:33:00 AM

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I don't know about chipping, but doesn't already have a way of tracking us? We do have an way of tracking, especially if you're military or a criminal...fingerprints.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:43:20 AM

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Ok- the way I understand it... a chip can emit electrical impulses with in your body. Ones nerves ARE an electrical current. So a chip is additional electrical work into YOUR body. For this reason the effects could be chilling.

Don't get hysterical; a chip is a tiny little thing with a tiny little voltage. The worst a subdermal chip could do is cause a *minor* muscle spasm- a little twitch. It's not going to be deeply imbedded in your muscle tissue, it's not going to be wired into your nervous system. Muscle tissue has a pretty high resistance, so any impulse would be dissipated along the surface of the muscle PDQ.

I am sorry, but we disagree.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 4:49:09 AM

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Ok- the way I understand it... a chip can emit electrical impulses with in your body. Ones nerves ARE an electrical current. So a chip is additional electrical work into YOUR body. For this reason the effects could be chilling.

Don't get hysterical; a chip is a tiny little thing with a tiny little voltage. The worst a subdermal chip could do is cause a *minor* muscle spasm- a little twitch. It's not going to be deeply imbedded in your muscle tissue, it's not going to be wired into your nervous system. Muscle tissue has a pretty high resistance, so any impulse would be dissipated along the surface of the muscle PDQ.

I am sorry, but we disagree.

What, you disagree that chips carry low voltages?
Or that they are imbedded subdermally and not into deep muscle tissue or nerve tissue?
Or that muscle tissue is highly resistive?
Or that when you pass a current through a highly resistive material it dissipates quickly?
Or that the above combine to mean that any impulse emitted will cause nothing more than a minor spasm along the surface of the muscle?

Which of those facts do you disagree with?

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 5:08:26 AM

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Actually, scratch everything I just said. I went and did some research; the chips aren't what I thought they were-they are RFID chips with no internal battery-they don't emit any electrical impulses at all. They respond to and emit radio waves (hence the RF bit of the acronym), which pass straight through you (and before you start screaming 'cancer!', they do so without enough energy to ionise your cells).

Which makes your hysteria all the more ridiculous.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 5:17:58 AM

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Well then 'rediculous" so be it.

No chips for me.

As it is there are too many radio signal. The minute I am landing on a plane in Chicago- the metro is a noticeable electric smog field.

The human body can only take so much of this.

With any luck- I want to move further out.

over head wires-- cell towers- even the new HDTV all BAD for the electricity with in ones body.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 5:20:03 AM

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It is good sometimes to know what you speak of before you speak.

For the casual reader, remember it is dangerous to gain your knowledge from forums like this, as falsehoods are commonly espoused as "knowledge".

VaguelyCurious was eventually correct, RFID chips are not internally powered, they are powered by the RF they receive.

Most cellphone locators do not use triangulation, but instead use Polar coordinates (direction and distance) from a single tower.

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RE: Will you agree to be chipped? - 4/11/2010 5:22:11 AM

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There's no way to recharge an implanted chip

Sure there is. The body has it's own electricity--people are even talking about biocomputers.

Whether it's practical is another matter, of course....

At the present time there is no commercially available chip that can be read from farther than a foot or two away. I wasn't referring to possible advances in the future.

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