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With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cuts | ... - 4/13/2010 7:38:59 PM   
Brain


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Status: offline 		The GOP is a one-trick pony.  They have no new ideas and reject anything Obama proposes, even if it was one of the GOP's ideas to begin with. They oppose everything, yet they come up with nothing new and different.  It's Reaganomics, 80s economic policies in a 21st century economy.

They only offer the same old sh*t in a different millennium.


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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 7:45:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The reason tax revenue is down 25% is because Obama, in his desire to destroy America has  caused 171% of ALL small business to fail.

It's true, look it up!

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 7:48:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about a new concept. Tax less and then go for less regulations. Maybe, just maybe businesses will start to hire again..Until that happens, the unemployment rate will remain near 10 %..

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 7:48:45 PM   
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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 7:49:58 PM   
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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:00:55 PM   
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How about a new concept. Tax less and then go for less regulations. Maybe, just maybe businesses will start to hire again..Until that happens, the unemployment rate will remain near 10 %..
And this plan has the advantage of having been tried in the past and wor....oh wait,never mind

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:07:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is never a good idea to raise taxes in a recession. On another note, wait a week or so until the new regulations from the EPA start for small remodleing companies around the country. Your home will become a toxic waste dump just to put new windows in..That should really help small business..

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:21:19 PM   
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It is never a good idea to raise taxes in a recession. On another note, wait a week or so until the new regulations from the EPA start for small remodleing companies around the country. Your home will become a toxic waste dump just to put new windows in..That should really help small business..
It's never a good idea to make the same mistakes over and over and expect different results.
The results on the failed "trickle down"policy has been recorded.....repeating those same tried and found wanting strategy is nothing more than a fools game.If conservatives are so dammed worried about the deficits (and we all should be) than it is time they understand the only way to raise money is to raise taxes.It's simple it really is....one does not increase tax revenue by lowering taxes...that is just a three card monty scam.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:34:41 PM   
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How about a new concept. Tax less and then go for less regulations. Maybe, just maybe businesses will start to hire again..Until that happens, the unemployment rate will remain near 10 %.


Actually, that's how we got here. By the third recession, in 2007, there was no more room to buy our way out with monetary policy, and the house of cards fell.

Maybe, just maybe, people will start to look at structural deficits.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:38:41 PM   
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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 8:41:49 PM   
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To every one who thinks they don't pay enough in taxes, add a couple of zeros on to your check to the IRS on April 15th.
Novel idea Servant...but that dog won't hunt.Nope if we are to raise more tax revenue....we will have to....yep you guessed it actually raise the tax rate.
It's not,and never has been a voluntary thing...but at least you are thinking out of the box...which considering your ideology is a step in the right direction

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 9:01:39 PM   
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Wow, ten threads on the first page at one time.


It is kind of annoying to be having essentially the same discussion in multiple threads.

Kind of defeats the point of a threaded discussion.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 9:12:30 PM   
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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 9:42:57 PM   
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Wow, ten threads on the first page at one time. For a while there you were holding it down to six. Something bite you, Brain?

K.


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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/13/2010 9:45:56 PM   
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How about a new concept. Tax less and then go for less regulations. Maybe, just maybe businesses will start to hire again..Until that happens, the unemployment rate will remain near 10 %..


You've been studying Obama, haven't you? Proclaim change while obviously playing the same old game.

Who says con-servant-atives never learn?

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 7:49:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tax cuts create jobs and ensure the survival of established businesses. It also makes it easier for new businesses to survive. Without tax relief during tough times like this, you are looking at a complete economic collapse since small businesses create most of the jobs in this country. Christmas was terrible this year, and I don't think many retailers are going to be able to hang on till next Christmas.

The real problem is congressional spending. Even the CBO said it wouldn't matter whether you raise or lower taxes, if you don't cut spending first. Therefore, since congress has shown no willingness to cut spending, we might as well keep the taxes low. If you give them more money they will just spend more. Anyone can see that.

Liberals really love taxes, and since they know people won't vote for them if they raise taxes, they have now resorted to backdoor taxes hoping people won't figure out these are taxes on businesses, corporations, financial institutions, and energy companies that will eventually be passed on to you the consumer.

"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to society, and proposes to pay it off with someone else's money." G. Gordon Liddy

This leads me to the other reason liberals love big government which is similar to why they love taxes. If 20% of the population manage to control the federal government, then they can make 80% do what they want. They can't do it without big brother's help.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 7:53:27 AM   
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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 7:58:01 AM   
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Uh, does the date 'The/Civil/War' ring a bell for you mr constitution? So we tried it, and like the lowering of taxes without spending controls, ain't gonna work, even with advances in weaponry and aviation.


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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 8:15:59 AM   
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Number two, Just about the only taxes they would need to collect for would be the military, and basic government expenses in Washington. Oh I guess we could allow social security, nasa, and the centers for disease control just to keep everyone happy, but we wouldn't be $10 trillion in debt, if everything else was returned to the states as the 10th amendment calls for.



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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 8:19:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I find it very revealing that you quote a convicted felon, the mastermind of Watergate no less.

Oh, and BTW, tax cuts for superrich individuals don't benefit businesses. Nor do they create jobs or help retailers - retailers are hurting because average Americans see their incomes drop.

You are right about Presidential Congressional spending. Since most of the spending is military, that's not going to change, though. So let's forget about the borrow-and-spend approach and get real. Tax cuts aren't affordable.


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